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Hoovie 04-07-2012 09:42 PM

Snake Handling Easter Service in WSJ
 
This year's Easter service at the Tabernacle Church of God in La Follette, Tenn., will include many of the holiday's traditional rituals, like Holy Communion and footwashing. There will also be some startling novelties.

"It will be filled with shouting, dancing, speaking in tongues, serpent handling and fire handling," said its 21-year-old pastor, Andrew Hamblin. "We'll celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ with a good old time."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

Hoovie 04-07-2012 09:45 PM

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These guys are using Facebook to attract new Snake Handling believers.

"Since he opened its doors last fall, Mr. Hamblin's small Pentecostal church, 39 miles north of Knoxville, has grown to almost 50 members, most of them in their 20s. Part of his strategy for expansion has been to use Facebook to publicize the daredevil spiritual exploits of his congregation."

AreYouReady? 04-07-2012 10:43 PM

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Thrillseekers?

:lol

I can think of a thousand other things to do.

Cindy 04-07-2012 10:46 PM

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Good grief.

houston 04-07-2012 10:46 PM

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They believe the words of Jesus. I can't fault them for that.

IMO, the anointing that they are feeling is an adrenaline rush. When I take up a rattler, I'll let you know if it's either/or.

RandyWayne 04-07-2012 10:57 PM

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Well, we can be thankful that the bible has no passages that say "And no fall from a great will harm you!" otherwise we would have apostolic cliff divers jumping onto asphalt parking lots.

Sherri 04-08-2012 02:15 PM

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Really wishing these guys weren't called "Pentecostal" and that they weren't from Tennessee!:foottap

Dagwood 04-08-2012 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 1153071)
Really wishing these guys weren't called "Pentecostal" and that they weren't from Tennessee!:foottap

It's not just Tennessee. There's a show on Discovery Channel, "Snake Man of Appalachia," featuring a family in rural eastern Kentucky who practice the same thing. It must be a regional practice.

Very interesting...

Sister Alvear 04-08-2012 02:57 PM

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Been to a few snake handling churches but they did not handle any in the services we were in ...good people just misguided....

Hoovie 04-08-2012 04:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1153081)
Been to a few snake handling churches but they did not handle any in the services we were in ...good people just misguided....

I believe that. But then that's true about most people I know - even some non-Christians...

The Matt 04-08-2012 08:00 PM

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Put a snake in front of me, and you're going to see a sad sight. A 6'1, 330 pound man running like the devil's behind him.

Hoovie 04-08-2012 08:24 PM

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I'll kill the snake first, then run from the people.

commonsense 04-08-2012 10:46 PM

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:foottap

Steve Epley 04-08-2012 11:11 PM

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I have been in two snakehandling services anf they were handling them the nites I was there.

Hoovie 04-08-2012 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1153119)
I have been in two snakehandling services anf they were handling them the nites I was there.

I can't verify this, but...

I have heard being in close proximity to rattlers can stunt a person's growth. :highfive

Jay 04-08-2012 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1153120)
I can't verify this, but...

I have heard being in close proximity to rattlers can stunt a person's growth. :highfive



I have heard that a close association with said serpents could stunt a person's progress into old age. For all of that I still want to be in one of those church services. If only we had them in Illinois.

Austin 04-09-2012 05:52 AM

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I have handled snakes all my life. if you don't squeeze them or pinch them or grabbed them too hard they won't bite you.

This is not anything supernatural. When we were down in Texas catching rattle snakes for fun we were not in the spirit even though the spirit dwelt in us, at least I think the Lord stayed in us when we picked up one of those six foot long rattlers as big around as a mans arm.!!

Another thing, if a snake is cold or chilled it won't bite, but if you grab one that has been laying in the sun then you will get a test of faith.. you better have a lot of it...

What I want to see is someone walking on water. Jesus said; he that believes in me the things I do he will do also and even greater things than these shall he do!!!

Titus2woman 04-09-2012 06:07 AM

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Speechless!

Bro. Robbins 04-09-2012 07:05 AM

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I was born and raised in LaFollette, TN. There are many, yes many, snake handling churches in East TN, Southeast KY, northern Ga, and Western NC, just to name a few places. The majority of these churches are Oneness churches, but this church is a Trinitarian Independent church.

It does call itself Church of God, but in those mountains, church of god is generic, not a denomination. Just like tons say baptist on the sign, but could be united baptist, general baptist, southern baptist, or independent.

The majority of snake handling churches only handle on special services, like homecoming, Revival, Easter, etc.... typically not every service. They also drink strictnine (sp?).

And some of theses churches surprisingly aren't very small. I can take you to a couple in the Knoxville area that run almost 300, big brick church with a family life center out back, etc. Business people, educated folk attend there... and they still handle snakes.

I personally don't believe it's an admonish to do it in scriptures, but I will say they have greater faith than I do to do it.

Hoovie 04-09-2012 07:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1153141)
I was born and raised in LaFollette, TN. There are many, yes many, snake handling churches in East TN, Southeast KY, northern Ga, and Western NC, just to name a few places. The majority of these churches are Oneness churches, but this church is a Trinitarian Independent church.

It does call itself Church of God, but in those mountains, church of god is generic, not a denomination. Just like tons say baptist on the sign, but could be united baptist, general baptist, southern baptist, or independent.

The majority of snake handling churches only handle on special services, like homecoming, Revival, Easter, etc.... typically not every service. They also drink strictnine (sp?).

And some of theses churches surprisingly aren't very small. I can take you to a couple in the Knoxville area that run almost 300, big brick church with a family life center out back, etc. Business people, educated folk attend there... and they still handle snakes.

I personally don't believe it's an admonish to do it in scriptures, but I will say they have greater faith than I do to do it.


I don't think it's faith at all. Genuine faith comes from God Himself, not someone conjuring up the nerve to do something at will.

Bro. Robbins 04-09-2012 08:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1153148)
I don't think it's faith at all. Genuine faith comes from God Himself, not someone conjuring up the nerve to do something at will.

Well, I guess what I'm saying is that it's not how I interpret Scriptures, but I have no issue with them doing this practice in their worship services. But, part of that might also be culture. I was raised Baptist, but everyone grew up knowing there were Snake Handling churches up in the hills around town, and if you didn't know someone who attended one of those churches, you knew someone related to someone who did. So it never seemed as foreign and strange to us since it was something we knew was close by.

I think they are sincerely wrong in their interpretation of scripture, but I won't knock them for their expression of their walk with God.

Hoovie 04-09-2012 09:04 AM

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Well ok, we should be cordial, yes, but I have serious issue with it. Like I do with praying to the saints, defication of Mary, and the Book of Mormon.

MawMaw 04-09-2012 09:17 AM

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This thread reminded me of the old Wendy Bagwell....
Rattlesnake Story! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wne0Q3ZnjU

Bro. Robbins 04-09-2012 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1153158)
Well ok, we should be cordial, yes, but I have serious issue with it. Like I do with praying to the saints, defication of Mary, and the Book of Mormon.

Having known some of these folks, it can turn into idolatry really fast for some. There are some that the act, and sensationalism of the snake handling becomes more important than the Lord and living for the Lord. That's why one of the old timers told me, that many of the churches went to only handling the snakes on special occasions.... so that the people didn't get fixed on the snakes.

For those that I have met that do this in balance, and it's only one small aspect of their expression of their faith, I have much less issue than the ones that turn it into idolatry.

Steve Epley 04-09-2012 09:46 AM

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I think they are nuts.

RandyWayne 04-09-2012 10:04 AM

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There are very few qualified to directly handle snakes..... And even among them, accidents happen -eventually!

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...nake-23027.jpg

KWSS1976 04-09-2012 11:22 AM

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Atleast they don't pick and choose they do it all...lol unlike other Pentecostals that just "Speak in Tongues" and run to that verse...I use that portion alot when someone confronts me about "speaking in tongues since I believe" and I say do you handle snakes since (you believe....)

Hoovie 04-09-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 1153192)
Atleast they don't pick and choose they do it all...lol unlike other Pentecostals that just "Speak in Tongues" and run to that verse...I use that portion alot when someone confronts me about "speaking in tongues since I believe" and I say do you handle snakes since (you believe....)

Actually, that scripture is not a good reference to show all should speak in tongues. It simply shows the believers in Christ would have these things happen. Paul shook off a snake without being harmed and spoke in tongues. Nough said.

KWSS1976 04-09-2012 11:36 AM

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O I know thats what I am getting at..lol you got those that do things halfway and the ones that do it all the way..

Dalton 04-09-2012 11:56 AM

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1 corinthians 10:9

Neither let us make trial of the Lord, as some of them made trial, and perished by the serpents.

Bro. Robbins 04-09-2012 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalton (Post 1153198)
1 corinthians 10:9

Neither let us make trial of the Lord, as some of them made trial, and perished by the serpents.

With all due respect, to take this Scripture and apply it to Snake Handling per se is really proof texting the letter from Paul to the Corinthians. When Paul was writing to the church in Corinth, the 10th Chapter was dealing with wavoring believers. In the 9th verse, the word "tempt" or "test" that translations use is coming from the Greek Word ekpeirazō, which means to prove God thoroughly. Though that verse by itself, could support the theory being used here that it applies to those that might handle serpents in Worship, we then have the responsibility to fit the text within the rest of the chapter.

The overall chapter is likening our current strivings and wanderings with the children of Israel. And in light of that, Paul warns us against tempting Christ (as some of them tempted, and were destroyed of serpents, v. 9), or provoking him to jealousy, v. 22. He was with the children of Israel in the wilderness; he was the angel of the covenant, who went before them.

But he was greatly grieved and provoked by them in many ways: They spoke against him and Moses, Wherefore have you brought us out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for which reason God sent fiery serpents among them (Num. 21:5, 6), by which many of them were stung mortally. And it is but just to fear that such as tempt Christ under the present dispensation will be left by him in the power of the old serpent.

I think to apply this one verse to modern day Serpent Handlers as a whole is a broad brush that the text won't support, but could individually if their motive is to truly test, or doubt God's promises.

Jay 04-09-2012 06:14 PM

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I have heard that is those who do not believe, yet attempt to handle the serpents that have trouble. I have known a lady who once had a bit of tea with bleach in it. The restaurant where she was dining had gotten sloppy. No harm came of this incident. I am not a believer in the belief that one should speak in tongues everyday, but should be experienced with more regularity.

freeatlast 04-09-2012 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1153141)
I was born and raised in LaFollette, TN. There are many, yes many, snake handling churches in East TN, Southeast KY, northern Ga, and Western NC, just to name a few places. The majority of these churches are Oneness churches, but this church is a Trinitarian Independent church.

It does call itself Church of God, but in those mountains, church of god is generic, not a denomination. Just like tons say baptist on the sign, but could be united baptist, general baptist, southern baptist, or independent.

The majority of snake handling churches only handle on special services, like homecoming, Revival, Easter, etc.... typically not every service. They also drink strictnine (sp?).

And some of theses churches surprisingly aren't very small. I can take you to a couple in the Knoxville area that run almost 300, big brick church with a family life center out back, etc. Business people, educated folk attend there... and they still handle snakes.

I personally don't believe it's an admonish to do it in scriptures, but I will say they have greater faith than I do to do it.

I hold snake handling in high regard, right up there with foot washing for me.

freeatlast 04-09-2012 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1153161)
Having known some of these folks, it can turn into idolatry really fast for some. There are some that the act, and sensationalism of the snake handling becomes more important than the Lord and living for the Lord. That's why one of the old timers told me, that many of the churches went to only handling the snakes on special occasions.... so that the people didn't get fixed on the snakes.

For those that I have met that do this in balance, and it's only one small aspect of their expression of their faith, I have much less issue than the ones that turn it into idolatry.

There is absolutely nothing about the practice that could called BALANCE.

Anyone who practices snake handling or poison drinking is so far removed from anything the bible would call balanced.

Anyone who practices this or is intrigued by this is unbalanced, to say the least.

Hoovie 04-09-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 1153280)
There is absolutely nothing about the practice that could called BALANCE.

Anyone who practices snake handling or poison drinking is so far removed from anything the bible would call balanced.

Anyone who practices this or is intrigued by this is unbalanced, to say the least.

I would agree - that is why I equate it to honoring the book of Mormon, and praying to dead saints.

I am not saying that God may not protect them in their foolishness (cause he has done that for me before).

houston 04-09-2012 07:27 PM

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Jesus said it, they believe it. What is the problem?

Hoovie 04-09-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1153286)
Jesus said it, they believe it. What is the problem?

It's a false faith. Jesus also Instructed his disciples to raise the dead. Does that mean we are called to shut down the funeral homes and stop burying people?

Praxeas 04-10-2012 12:11 AM

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"Pentecost Xtreme!"

Austin 04-10-2012 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1153288)
It's a false faith. Jesus also Instructed his disciples to raise the dead. Does that mean we are called to shut down the funeral homes and stop burying people?

I like the idea!!!! I don't know why some end up there in the first place/

berkeley 04-10-2012 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1153288)
It's a false faith. Jesus also Instructed his disciples to raise the dead. Does that mean we are called to shut down the funeral homes and stop burying people?

How is it a false faith? Jesus said it, they believe it.


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