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Hoovie 04-27-2012 09:02 PM

Sick in Zimbabwe turn to faith healers
 
Any thoughts on this story?

http://video.foxnews.com/v/160422081...ylist_id=87937

Sam 04-27-2012 09:28 PM

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and one person was even "slain in the Spirit" when ministered to by the healer

Michael The Disciple 04-27-2012 09:41 PM

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I think many African nations are like this. Those who cant afford modern medical help will try most anything to find relief. Africa is in terrible shape all around. I thought it was going to discuss Preachers who pray for the sick in Jesus name.

Sam 04-27-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1157692)
I think many African nations are like this. Those who cant afford modern medical help will try most anything to find relief. Africa is in terrible shape all around. I thought it was going to discuss Preachers who pray for the sick in Jesus name.

looks like "faith healers" is used in a generic sense in that article lumping together "Christian" prayer for the sick and any other methods used by local shamans, witches, etc.

Michael The Disciple 04-27-2012 10:09 PM

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My Former Pastor had a ministry to the nation of Liberia for some years. He visited there and being a Black man himself did much research on Christianity in Africa. He was very disturbed by what he found and felt there was not much there in the way of pure Christianity.

Lest anyone should be offended by that he taught the same thing was true in America.

tstew 04-27-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1157700)
My Former Pastor had a ministry to the nation of Liberia for some years. He visited there and being a Black man himself did much research on Christianity in Africa. He was very disturbed by what he found and felt there was not much there in the way of pure Christianity.

Lest anyone should be offended by that he taught the same thing was true in America.

There are issues in Africa when it comes to melding Christianity with other things, but I can assure you that there is quite a bit of pure Christianity (in Liberia for sure) :). Now I'm curious as to who your pastor was, though.

Michael The Disciple 04-27-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 1157702)
There are issues in Africa when it comes to melding Christianity with other things, but I can assure you that there is quite a bit of pure Christianity (in Liberia for sure) :). Now I'm curious as to who your pastor was, though.

His name was Ed Peagler. He was in Dayton Ohio and pastored the "Apostolic Dynamics" home Church. I learned a lot from him. He died a few years back. He would fill up shipping containers with donations and have them sent to Liberia. As I recall I think he said it was the worse place on Earth.

I would be interested in knowing more about the pure Christianity in Liberia. Or anywhere for that matter.

Dordrecht 04-28-2012 04:50 AM

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Where else can they turn to if they don't hear the gospel?

Sherri 04-28-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1157710)
His name was Ed Peagler. He was in Dayton Ohio and pastored the "Apostolic Dynamics" home Church. I learned a lot from him. He died a few years back. He would fill up shipping containers with donations and have them sent to Liberia. As I recall I think he said it was the worse place on Earth.

I would be interested in knowing more about the pure Christianity in Liberia. Or anywhere for that matter.

We minister a LOT in Kenya. There are a lot of true Christians. However, there are a lot of Christians who are very wishy-washy and will just go along with anything that is taught. Especially if you offer them something materially.
There is also a lot of spiritism and ancestor worship mixed in with Christianity in some areas. But we have a lot of good solid men of God there who preach truth.

Dordrecht 04-28-2012 07:41 AM

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But we have a lot of good solid men of God there who preach truth.
Good to hear!

tstew 04-28-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1157710)
His name was Ed Peagler. He was in Dayton Ohio and pastored the "Apostolic Dynamics" home Church. I learned a lot from him. He died a few years back. He would fill up shipping containers with donations and have them sent to Liberia. As I recall I think he said it was the worse place on Earth.

I would be interested in knowing more about the pure Christianity in Liberia. Or anywhere for that matter.

I am very surprised I've never heard of your pastor, but I thank God for his efforts.

I know many sincere, dedicated, and well-equipped men and women who are spreading the pure gospel in Liberia and now into surrounding nations like Guinea where we have been unable to penetrate before. What people have been able to endure with the civil war and still remain faithful to God is incredible.
I'm not sure any of us would be able to come through some of what they've come through and still be able to love and trust God and others.
There were certainly things about the war that made Liberia a terrible place to be, but prior to that it was a great place and a bedrock for the Apostolic movement in Africa as a whole. That is one of the big tragedies.
Things are slowly returning to normal and the church there is having great revival.

Jay 04-28-2012 12:43 PM

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My father knew Bro. Don Ikerd who was a missionary for many years to the nation of Liberia. I know that we also met others who were in Kenya and other places. Sadly I do not remember all of the names as I was only a child or teenager and the years have replalced my memory with other things. I know that I have seen them from Spain, Russia, Brazil, Peru, Argentina, Eastern Europe, Bolivia, Ecuador, to name the ones that I can remember. Some of the ones that I still remember best were the Nix family and Bro. and Sis. Burgess.

Hoovie 04-28-2012 12:52 PM

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I think Stew is very well qualified for this thread if there is a question regarding the Liberian church. His family has lived through some amazing experiences in Africa.

TGBTG 04-28-2012 04:34 PM

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I am from Nigeria (West Africa)...Just like in the USA, there's all sorts of Christians...

There are catholics, baptists, etc
There are oneness (largely due to William Branham's ministry)

And there are those that mix "spiritualism" with "Christianity"

But there is definitely pure gospel...


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