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seekerman 05-28-2012 04:03 PM

Has She Got It?
 
http://www.trendhure.com/gifdumps/an...cdump91/35.gif

Sam 05-28-2012 04:43 PM

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well she has something, we may not know what----

demonic manifestation?
seizure?
Holy Ghost hoedown?
emotional breakdown?
a squirrel loose in her undergarments?

AreYouReady? 05-28-2012 05:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1165187)
well she has something, we may not know what----

demonic manifestation?
seizure?
Holy Ghost hoedown?
emotional breakdown?
a squirrel loose in her undergarments?

Most definitely Sam, most definitely something...

I'd say it could be the squirrel...

acerrak 05-28-2012 09:34 PM

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i dont cast judgment calls on such thing. I well let God do that.

AreYouReady? 05-28-2012 10:31 PM

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No harm meant on my part. The squirrel comment is just a quip. I apologize if anybody felt offended.

I am pretty sure that I did a dance much like this when the Holy Ghost blesses me. I've had my share of people laughing good-naturedly at my actions during my blessings.

Praxeas 05-29-2012 01:32 AM

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The video looks like the speed was increased and looped

deacon blues 05-29-2012 05:58 AM

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That looks painful

Bro. Robbins 05-29-2012 06:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1165178)

So can you tell me the purpose of this post? Was it to edify and build unity within the body of Christ? Was it to build up? Was it to give glory and praise? Or was it to poke fun, was it to tear down, was it to open the door to cast judgement calls and as resulted... open the door for jokes? I don't know the genuineness of what is in the video, don't know the circumstances, and don't know what's in her heart but to show the video, ask the question, and then just leave the door open for jokes and ridicule is dangerous ground in my book..... and not sure how it keeps in line with Philippians 4:8.

RandyWayne 05-29-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1165178)

<cue ...The Chicken Dance...>

Or....

<cue ...any big hair music from the 80's...>

RandyWayne 05-29-2012 08:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1165233)
The video looks like the speed was increased and looped

It may have been sped up slightly (and it is looped) but not to the degree that it is like a 1960's sitcom "fast motion".

tv1a 05-29-2012 11:01 AM

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No snakes?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1165187)
well she has something, we may not know what----

demonic manifestation?
seizure?
Holy Ghost hoedown?
emotional breakdown?
a squirrel loose in her undergarments?


Jermyn Davidson 05-29-2012 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1165178)

If I could let go in the spirit and let God have His Way with me like that, I would embrace it and not be ashamed!

One day, you may look up and see my feet dancing under the moving of the Holy Spirit and if that means my head is bobbling all over the place, you can videotape me and put it online for others to gawk at if you want to.

It will not deter my praise.

Jermyn Davidson 05-29-2012 11:15 AM

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Time for me to get back to work.

:)

AreYouReady? 05-29-2012 12:17 PM

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I remember the first time I saw my room mate dance in the Spirit.

It was the funniest thing I ever saw at that time.

Then during one service my feet started to move and I thought I was going to trip over my own legs if I did not yield to the Spirit. I'm sure I was the funniest sight to another person there. :)

Jay 05-29-2012 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1165187)
well she has something, we may not know what----

demonic manifestation?
seizure?
Holy Ghost hoedown?
emotional breakdown?
a squirrel loose in her undergarments?


I would be hard pressed to say.


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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1165227)
No harm meant on my part. The squirrel comment is just a quip. I apologize if anybody felt offended.

I am pretty sure that I did a dance much like this when the Holy Ghost blesses me. I've had my share of people laughing good-naturedly at my actions during my blessings.

I was not offended by your statement. While I do not approve of making a mockery of the things of God, I do not take issue with deriding one who makes a mockery of the things of God by intention, which was this person's issue.



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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1165241)
So can you tell me the purpose of this post? Was it to edify and build unity within the body of Christ? Was it to build up? Was it to give glory and praise? Or was it to poke fun, was it to tear down, was it to open the door to cast judgement calls and as resulted... open the door for jokes? I don't know the genuineness of what is in the video, don't know the circumstances, and don't know what's in her heart but to show the video, ask the question, and then just leave the door open for jokes and ridicule is dangerous ground in my book..... and not sure how it keeps in line with Philippians 4:8.

I must agree with you on this. The post was done to make a mockery of the worship. I detest those who post such things on edit this trash and post it on youtube. I would prefer to see more than a 2 second video on endless loop. It nearly makes me ill to just watch it.


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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1165317)
No snakes?


Nor old yella cats either.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1165321)
If I could let go in the spirit and let God have His Way with me like that, I would embrace it and not be ashamed!

One day, you may look up and see my feet dancing under the moving of the Holy Spirit and if that means my head is bobbling all over the place, you can videotape me and put it online for others to gawk at if you want to.

It will not deter my praise.


I found myself caught on video one year during a campmeeting. In the clip, I was the only once in the front dancing. I will admit that I looked rather ridiculous. However, I have not stopped dancing and shouting.



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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1165326)
I remember the first time I saw my room mate dance in the Spirit.

It was the funniest thing I ever saw at that time.

Then during one service my feet started to move and I thought I was going to trip over my own legs if I did not yield to the Spirit. I'm sure I was the funniest sight to another person there. :)

It is only strange and unusual to those who are not their, nor are a part of us. I have seen men and ladies dance and shout, and it could be amusing sometimes. I am very careful to never call anyone a fake that I see via video only. I am not afraid to make such a judgment when I have been around the individual.

Cindy 05-29-2012 03:03 PM

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Got what?

RandyWayne 05-29-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1165394)
Got what?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...920050626a5ece

Jay 05-29-2012 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1165394)
Got what?


A spider, scorpion, a rock?

MawMaw 05-29-2012 03:20 PM

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Looks to me as if the lady is feeling
the Power of the Holy Ghost really
good!!

I sure hope no one is making fun
of that?

Jason B 05-29-2012 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay

I would be hard pressed to say.

Which is one of the biggest problems with pentecostalism. A movement which prides itself so much on spiritual gifts yet is almost totally void of any discernment and no one seems to be able to discern the difference between the Spirit of God and demonic possesion or human emotionalism and frenzy. (Insert BORAT reference here). The fact that one of the fruits of the Spirit is self control and that God's Spirit always works in such a way that everything is done in decency and order rarely are considered in such a discussion as this.

Jay 05-29-2012 07:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 1165434)
Which is one of the biggest problems with pentecostalism. A movement which prides itself so much on spiritual gifts yet is almost totally void of any discernment and no one seems to be able to discern the difference between the Spirit of God and demonic possesion or human emotionalism and frenzy. (Insert BORAT reference here). The fact that one of the fruits of the Spirit is self control and that God's Spirit always works in such a way that everything is done in decency and order rarely are considered in such a discussion as this.



If you would notice the reference to what I was posting, it was meant to be understood to be rather tic. The problem is that I refuse to judge a 2-3 second clip on endless loop for actual spirituality. However, the person who created and posted the clip has either no respect for the things of God or no knowledge on how to properly treat the things of God..

tv1a 05-29-2012 10:29 PM

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God loves a cheerful giver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pUAnrVWUkk

tv1a 05-29-2012 10:32 PM

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Some more of Brother Franklin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp4BA0-lYtU

tv1a 05-29-2012 10:51 PM

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A few brief comments.
The Holy Spirit doesn't force anyone to act like a wild animal.
No one "dances in the Spirit".
The video shows someone intense response to her Lord and Savior.
We don't know the story behind the dance. She might have been healed of a deadly disease, or won the lottery. Her spouse or her children may have committed their life to Jesus. Something happened to cause an extreme expression of joy.
I have personally witnessed a person shaking like they were going into convulsions. Every time she laid her hands on someone she started to shaker her body. No doubt in my mind the lady was possessed.
I believe the lady's motives are pure.

tv1a 05-29-2012 10:52 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGaqhKxPgCg

Jermyn Davidson 05-31-2012 12:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1165471)
The Holy Spirit doesn't force anyone to act like a wild animal.
No one "dances in the Spirit".

I disagree with BOTH statements, vehemently.

Jermyn Davidson 05-31-2012 12:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1165468)
God loves a cheerful giver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pUAnrVWUkk

I don't believe God is glorified by this.

He's not in the spirit and it looks like he knows people are watching and even recording his actions-- which is the motivation for his antics. It doesn't appear that his actions are meant as sincere worship or praise to GOD, which means that he is out of order.


Then again, I could be wrong about my summation of his actions. God please forgive me if I am wrong. They are part of a culture very different culture from my own.

tv1a 05-31-2012 04:20 AM

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Sorry you feel that way. I couldn't find a scriptue saying the Holy Spirit will make you act like you have siezures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1165687)
I disagree with BOTH statements, vehemently.


acerrak 05-31-2012 06:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1165693)
Sorry you feel that way. I couldn't find a scriptue saying the Holy Spirit will make you act like you have siezures.

no but it does make you appear as though you was drunk according to acts. or acting as one who is intoxicated.

however dance has always been a form of worship, and you can find that in the bible.

acerrak 05-31-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1165688)
I don't believe God is glorified by this.

He's not in the spirit and it looks like he knows people are watching and even recording his actions-- which is the motivation for his antics. It doesn't appear that his actions are meant as sincere worship or praise to GOD, which means that he is out of order.


Then again, I could be wrong about my summation of his actions. God please forgive me if I am wrong. They are part of a culture very different culture from my own.

i some what agree with you, but at the same time i am reminded that david danced with all his might before the Lord, and there is no telling how that may have looked to others.

tv1a 05-31-2012 07:25 AM

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My issue is with the phrase dancing in the Spirit. Dancing is always done in the flesh. Dancing is biblical. Dancing in the spirit is a phrased coined to make excuses about extravagent worship.

Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1165697)
no but it does make you appear as though you was drunk according to acts. or acting as one who is intoxicated.

however dance has always been a form of worship, and you can find that in the bible.


Sam 05-31-2012 07:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1165697)
no but it does make you appear as though you was drunk according to acts. or acting as one who is intoxicated.

however dance has always been a form of worship, and you can find that in the bible.

I'm not justifying some of the stuff we consider "in the Spirit" in our churches.

However, how do you think Hannah was acting when she was so deeply in prayer in 1 Samuel chapter 1 that the priest thought she was drunk? Was she weeping very emotionally? Was she sprawled out on the ground? Was she crawling around sobbing? He seemed to be embarrassed by her and rebuked her for public drunkenness.

How do we think David looked in 1 Samuel 6:13-23 or King Saul in 1 Samuel 19:23-24?

crakjak 05-31-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1165178)

A harmless emotional release??

Sam 05-31-2012 07:49 AM

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speaking of "in the Spirit" I love this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55LQ1IkvPpE

acerrak 05-31-2012 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1165706)
I'm not justifying some of the stuff we consider "in the Spirit" in our churches.

However, how do you think Hannah was acting when she was so deeply in prayer in 1 Samuel chapter 1 that the priest thought she was drunk? Was she weeping very emotionally? Was she sprawled out on the ground? Was she crawling around sobbing? He seemed to be embarrassed by her and rebuked her for public drunkenness.

How do we think David looked in 1 Samuel 6:13-23 or King Saul in 1 Samuel 19:23-24?

dont know i wasnt there. if i was i could make a better judgment of the situation. however being as i was in the military drinking was apart of my past time, and i remember some of the stoopid things i did when i was drunk.

dancing being one of them, trying to sing karoke. my point being is one could physically see i was drunk cause of my actions.

so something she was doing was something eli had seen some person drunk do just to be able to draw a comparison.

crakjak 05-31-2012 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1165688)
I don't believe God is glorified by this.

He's not in the spirit and it looks like he knows people are watching and even recording his actions-- which is the motivation for his antics. It doesn't appear that his actions are meant as sincere worship or praise to GOD, which means that he is out of order.


Then again, I could be wrong about my summation of his actions. God please forgive me if I am wrong. They are part of a culture very different culture from my own.

He is simply having a good time "showing out" not evil, not in THE Spirit, just having a good time, and showing his moves. Looks like most in the building were also having a good time. His maybe a bit over the top!!! I'm sure the "spiritual ones" were looking down their noses at him, but most seemed to just allow him to express himself, no harm done.

crakjak 05-31-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 1165472)

Just maybe he has reason to be exceedingly joyful!!!! Let him dance!!!

crakjak 05-31-2012 08:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 1165434)
Which is one of the biggest problems with pentecostalism. A movement which prides itself so much on spiritual gifts yet is almost totally void of any discernment and no one seems to be able to discern the difference between the Spirit of God and demonic possesion or human emotionalism and frenzy. (Insert BORAT reference here). The fact that one of the fruits of the Spirit is self control and that God's Spirit always works in such a way that everything is done in decency and order rarely are considered in such a discussion as this.

What is decent and in order for a man that has been healed and set free of so much???? These folks love the dance, Bro. F is just dancing as he knows how. Especially, if he is walking the walk, I say let him dance, he'll settle down soon enough!!!!

crakjak 05-31-2012 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1165708)
speaking of "in the Spirit" I love this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55LQ1IkvPpE

Yep, all decent and in order. God's people joyous, and having a great time. Not my favorite style of music, but I can appreciate it and if present I would have danced right along with them!!!

deacon blues 05-31-2012 08:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1165241)
So can you tell me the purpose of this post? Was it to edify and build unity within the body of Christ? Was it to build up? Was it to give glory and praise? Or was it to poke fun, was it to tear down, was it to open the door to cast judgement calls and as resulted... open the door for jokes? I don't know the genuineness of what is in the video, don't know the circumstances, and don't know what's in her heart but to show the video, ask the question, and then just leave the door open for jokes and ridicule is dangerous ground in my book..... and not sure how it keeps in line with Philippians 4:8.

We are told to try the spirits whether they be of God. I have seen this type of thing throughout my lifetime and it never struck me as being a work of God in someone's life. I just can't see God causing someone to go into convulsions. Theres nothing Biblical to support it.


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