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Ok what is your guys take on this, also we now have smart phones and Youtube to track this stuff unlike back in the day if something like this was to take place it probley would have been left inside the church walls. So my question is do you think that the technology we have these days that are able to capture this type of behavior will ruin the Churches eventually? I am not just talking about Apostolic/Pentecostal either.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/youn...l-controversy/

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saw that a long time ago, i refused to post it, hoping it would go away dumb, dumb, dumb ,with todays tech.someone can be recording you and you will never know.

Yes, that's the real crime. That it was recorded. ;)

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So are you guys of the notion that what goes on in the church stays in the church??

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i bet his parents was very proud of him...

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i know the last time i preached it was recorded on a phone. Im still trying to get it so i can repost it.

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Speaking of pride......

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video?id=8612445

Quite impressed with herself! :lol

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This really goes both ways. The dirty laundry needs to be shown for what it is in many cases, but in just as many it needs to be private -none of us being perfect and all. The situation where every member of the congregation and visitor now has a camcorder via their cell phones, makes for every slip of the tongue potentially devastating. (In THIS case, the kid singing was no mere slip of the tongue.....)

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Quite the looker! I was admiring the staircase too much to see what was upstairs. :)

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:spit

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In case anyone's not familiar with Carrie Prejean's story:

She was Miss California, as a finalist in the Miss USA pageant. It was time for The Question. This question came from gay activist, and pageant judge, Perez Hilton. He asked her if she thought all states should legalize same-sex marriage. Her answer: she thinks it's great that in America you can choose between same-sex or opposite-sex marriage -- but she thinks it should be between a man and a woman. (Uh. OK.)

Now, I'll go on record and say that Perez's reaction in the days to follow were uncalled for. He viciously and profanely attacked Carrie. It was disgusting. And, in fact, I have no problem with her giving her opinion, and I don't think it should have (if it did) cost her the pageant crown. (She came in second!) But the oddness of her answer (seemingly changing direction, mid-answer) and the wacky bragging were, well, pretty weird, too. (Maybe the weirdness of the answer was a factor. And maybe that's justified. Dunno.)

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not a crime just dumb btw i agree with the kid if you beleiev the bible

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Is it something to sing about? Really?

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Well, they are probably the same types who rejoice in singing about bobbed hair women going to hell as well.

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Those adults should have someone take them to the woodshed for teaching that little boy so much bigotry and hate. It's inexcusable.

Jesus Christ would never sing that type of song. He gave the rich young ruler time to figure out what was in his own heart and recognized that the adultress woman was not the hypocrite, although admonishing her to sin no more.

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I do not agree with that lifestyle, but I just cannot persecute them.

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:thumbsup :thumbsup

I suggest you continue to read. I think you're missing some other stuff.

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Ruin? I don't think so. Force accountability and maturity? Maybe.

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I do not understand why any church would encourage the singing of this type song by anyone, much less children. It doesn't edify or uplift anyone.

However, I refuse to jump on the bandwagon and demonize this church for teaching these kids that sin is sin. My son is 6. He already knows that wrong is wrong. When he startes hearing in public school that homsexuality is ok, he will hear very clearly from home that it is no ok. It is an abomination and will land a soul in hell.

I'm tired of practitioners of perversion getting to trumpet their sickening lifestyle all over, but the inute any Christians stands up to them they get deomonized, sadly by others who are supposedly Christian as well.

Don't remember the brand.... this thread reminds me of the milk that stamps HOMO on the milk cap. Even your milk is gay. Gay milk does a body FABULOUS!! Just be sure it's 1 or 2 %.... like the gay pop-u-layshun!!!!

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when i lived in san diego there is a store close to balboa park called gay-mart.
I did not adventure inside to see what it had..

But ofcourse 50-60years ago it was cool to say gay and be gay. or maybe that was the 40's you see it on old black and white films.

Guy would be like you want go to the party
other man would say Im Gay!!

ofcourse the meaning has changed some what from that usage

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Harvey Milk was the mayor of San Fran now that was gay milk for sure :)

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Couple of things:

First, this church is probably the same type who would belch out that ole' famous "I'm a Pentecostal" choir song. I mean, after all the hype evidenced in the video of this situation, I'm surprised the congregation didn't have a Holy Ghost shoutdown for the boy's cute little song. Wasn't that just precious? Bless his li'l heart!

Second, not only will my kids learn right from wrong from a Biblical perspective, they will also know love vs. hate from a Biblical perspective. They will know to love all, through all, for all because of Jesus. That, in no way, condones the homosexual lifestyle, IMHO. It merely differentiates the end result for my kids' witness: will they have added to the homosexual's reason for disdain toward people of faith (they're going strait to hell for believing or living that way!), or been an example of such faith and love that person through their healing and turning away from such lifestyle (they still have a chance to make it right, just like the rest of us on other things!).

Third, I am sick and tired, too, of what appears to be the whole acceptance and equality message echoed from Hollywood and the media, which is why I refrain from so much of that garbage to begin with. A true, genuine Spirit-filled Christian won't have to be herded by another voice (Hollywood, media, etc) and be told what to say or not to say when it comes to topics such as this. Unfortunately, stupidity on display such as the case with this kid (though not his fault) ruins it for folks like me.

Just my thoughts...

Dagger,

I haven't watched the vid. Is it as good as I'm a Pentecostal?

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Well, let's just say, the same amount of disgust I have for the IAP video I have for this one.

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At least "I'm a Pentecostal" is funny. Kinda. ;)

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Harvey Milk was never mayor. He won a seat on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. He and Mayor George Moscone were assassinated by Dan White.

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First off, I agree. Second, I've always noticed the same sort of sadistic glee during (nearly) all strong holiness "standards" type services I have ever endured. I know many will come on and say "I take NO delight in church sinners (who should know better) living in bondage!", except they will say it with the same breathless enthusiasm usually reserved for a network anchor as they read the voting results during the 2008 presidential election. It is this exact same attitude that spills over to a small boy celebrating the fact that "this sinner!" or "that sinner!" will not be joining US in heaven! -While the adults are clapping and "amen!"ing him in the process.

I wany to say that I hate that song, but in keeping with the aroma of the thread I decided to wear tape over my mouth that reads NOH8.

Sadistic glee is a good phrase for it. And I'm sure they think that by training their kid like a circus sideshow to regurgitate things he doesn't yet understand, that they'll protect themselves from the "relentless gay agenda" that will surely be out to convert their son in the future. It makes so much sense.

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I'm thankful for the land of the free. Where we can sing what we want to sing and enjoy and appreciate what we like.

Make fun of and hate on my heterosexual lifestyle.. Sing about how there will be no straight people in heaven. I'll smile and say.. show me that in the Bible.

Gays don't care what the bible say, they hate Romans chapter 1. They know it damns them to hell.

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Hey, Rev Broadbrush...Would you care to back up or explain your opinion? How do you know they "don't care" what the bible say? How do you know they "hate Romans chapter 1?" How do you know "they know it damns them to hell?"

When's the last time you talked to one? Oh, I get it. Your interpretation (that silly little voice) told you so, right?

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To give the WHOLE truth, here's what 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 has to say about it:

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed , but ye are sanctified , but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Funny how it says "And such were some of you: but..."

Amazing how much difference a BUT makes...

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You sweet Christians go and win some gays to Christ.. Let me know how that goes for you...

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Typical explanation from one who avoids answering questions.

No worries, we won't waste our time relaying any victory report to you. If we did, we'd be wasting our time since you already have it figured out.

Oh, wait, but you still haven't answered my questions...

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They don't care what the Bible says because the Bible talks about "leaving the natural use of the women" and "men being burned up in their lust." It talks about "vile affections", affections/ lusts that are corrupt.

Homosexuals are going to hell, not because of themselves, but because of the sin they are partaking in. And homosexuals are not born that way - God doesn't create sin.

You can argue around the belt all day about how "that scripture really doesn't mean that, this is what it means" but the Bible says in Timothy that "all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for DOCTRINE, reproof, correct.."
That's why we believe what we believe about homosexuals, because the Bible tells us what to believe. It's not allowed in the Bible.

Are there any legitimate scriptures in the Bible that support homosexuality? That if we took it in its context it would be talking about it? You want us to find you a scripture that doesn't support it, but we want you to find a scripture THAT DOES condone homosexual behaviour. It's nowhere in the Bible because it's against God's order of a Man and Women.

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And it's not impossible for them to be saved, it's not. But, in all reality, just based of fact, the hard truth life offers - it's something that rarely happens. Especially if they've grown up in the church - they despise their old lifestyle.

And I believe, once you've gone that far, once your lust has burned that much, where you go from lusting like that after women to men, it makes you emotions, your affections vile. Your heart becomes hardened in a sense. It sears your conscious, especially if deep, deep, deep, deep down inside you know its wrong. I think 99.9% of homosexuals know its wrong deep deep down inside, but try to justify it because they are stuck in it and don't know how to get out. So they press further and further in their lifestyle. But God does not condone it.

If God was for it, he'd say something about it in the Bible in a supportive way - but he doesn't. If he was for it, he would've never made a WOMAN for Adam. He would've never started it off with a Man and Woman. God doesn't create homosexuality, because God is not the author of confusion. God doesn't create a MAN to think he's a WOMAN but he has all of the MANS features. God doesn't do that, plain and far.

I don't see whats so hard about accepting the truth.

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It's like people spend so much time, arguing against what they know to be the truth but they continue to argue against it. All you are doing is searing your conscious!


But remember, it's easier to live for God. To submit yourself to your Pastor, a good Pastor. One that genuinely care for you. And keep your mind on heaven and making it there. Don't let yourself become a reprobate in mind. Don't let yourself think that only part of the Bible is true and not some of it. ALL of it is true. God doesn't lie and the bible clearly says "all scripture is given by Inspiration of God." Some stuff just doesn't apply to nowadays because of the new and old testament. Some stuff is still applying to today because it is mentioned again in the new testament.

The single greatest commandment is, "Hear O Isreal, the Lord our God is one Lord." As long as you are living that, your on the right track.

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Also, I think that a lot of people HATE homosexuals. You don't hate the people, you hate their sin. Pray for them to be delivered!