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Since we are just a few hours away from the Supreme's announcing their decision on ObamaCare I thought I would get the thread discussing it started now.

I must say that I will not be surprised at all if they uphold all of it. However keep in mind if they do it merely means it is legal, not that it is good.

If the Supreme's don't strike down at least the mandate portion of it we will have to count on electing a Republican majority who will kill the program before it has a chance to get entrenched.

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We can HOPE that more than just the individual mandate is struck down.

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I sincerely hope it is struck down. The Constitution should not be thrown out over health care. If the government wants to do something in the field of health care, how about working to curb the ridiculous costs of the thing. I mean, people now are concerned about paying bills or getting the treatment they need. But, this socialized health care is not the answer. I simply hope that this thing is cast down as unconstitutional.

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were doomed........ i thought arizona would have been upheld to allow states the freedom to choose how to doeal with immagration. when i discovered that they supreme court ruled in favor of obama. I wanted a revolt to suceed from the federal government.

The federal gocernment has charged the states to run and operate themselves but this communistic (so -called democratic ower) has taken that away. its just a matter of time before more personal infringments will be made on us and our liberty.

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Mandate is illegal,not a fed power ,"issue of severability," means the whole thing will be tossed imo 7 to 2 .

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Are you hearing yourself? Yourselves? Do you honestly still think you can vote for good? Put your hope in a mandate from DC?

I certainly believe you guys are earnest, but am constrained from even wishing you all the best.

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it really doesnt matter. one of these men will be elected into office with or with out your help. the fact is if you dont vote you really have no say so in the matter. The issue is trying to find a person out of those who is running that is closer to your morals than the other.

I have had the ability to vote many years but i never registered until this election, while in the past its not been a big deal to me about presidency, however after these last 4 years im ready for a change.

your job is to pray for the elected leader as it is also ours as well. I think its time to pray for another elected leader though. there is no sidelines in this. one of these men will effect your life, at least try to get one that has similiar morales in hope he effects your life (less than what the other one would)

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Supreme Court needs to be overhauled. It is political and not upholding our constitution.

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yeppers lets fine the poor people who cant afford it, whata great deal ....

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shocking that roberts wqould betray conservatives everywhere,this must be repealed by congress after the elections

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This ruling is a mess.
Our lawyers have it now for review.
The Medicaid ruling makes it complicated for this to be enforced.

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One more, it looks as though the SCOTUS made several "assumptions" here.
Even though it was not called a tax, it is a tax.
Also, even though the argument was Congress had the power under the Commerce provision, the SCOTUS says that they do not.
It's almost like SCOTUS saying that Congress goofed this up and we are not going to fix it for them.
Strange all the way around.

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yes it is. I heard yesterday that the Congress put a clause in it that it could not be broken up in part, that it either ALL is passed or All is rejected. Seems to me that SC just does it own thing.

Someone must have got to Roberts. He was supposed to be conservative. He was the swing vote that passed this unlawful tax!

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The ruling made me shudder to my toes. I am afraid for our country....

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to have them say it was a tax when barck clearly said it was a penalty is beyond belief.time for sweeping change in congress this fall and repeal.

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Yes I thought that is what I just said.??

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Now, I'll probably get "stoned" for this view, but folks, has anyone read the book of Isaiah or Jeremiah, or even Dueteronomy where God's commandments, and laws are laid out for the children of Israel to follow? As long as they served and loved God, their battles were fought and won by the Lord himself. But when they turned their back on Him, judgment came in many different forms, until the people cried out in their distress to the Lord.

I am not one to bring up crazy prophecies, ideas, and so on. I want to stand on the Word, and the Word alone. However, I believe the Word is clear on this type of situation. Without true heartfelt repentance from this nation as a whole, the judgment of God is no doubt upon us, and this may or may not have anything to do with the "endtimes".... but just the fact that our nation has elected a leader who wants nothing to do with the principles set forth in the Word. We are reaping from the seeds that have been sown for many years.

I believe this is just the beginning of sorrows for our nation, but one scripture gives me comfort in Isaiah 26:20-21 "Come my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For behold the Lord cometh out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain."

While great judgment and terror is prophesied throughout scripture, there is hope for those who hear HIS voice, and I believe there will be a place for those who hear His voice to hide until the indignation be overpast.

My hope is not in Obama, Romney, or any other manmade entity.... My HOPE IS IN CHRIST ALONE.

The days ahead are no doubt gonna be filled with more of the same horror as we feel in our hearts today about the direction this country is taking, but we must keep our faith in CHRIST alone, and not in a manmade system.

Well, my 2 cents worth for the day...

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I am disheartened and so mad I want to scream things I shouldn't say as a Christian.

These idiots just made the decision that basically it is illegal to tell us Americans we have to buy anything, but that it is perfectly legal to tax us as a penalty if we don't buy what the Fed wants us to buy. And how will America take this? Lying down as usual.

This sort of garbage ought to result in the same kind of revolts as were seen in France and Egypt. Maybe violent revolution really is the ONLY thing that DC will ever be changed by.

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I am stunned.

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Obamacare=Romneycare. We have the wrong nominee.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/YyJNyZSy_NY

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KBTW - I somewhat agree with you. I am not disheartened by this ruling, because I have more faith in a higher power than the SCOTUS.
However, I was a very political person, in my younger days and loved it.
I got out of that arena, because it was taking my focus away from things that were more important, to me.
Also, my ancestors have lived and died here for generations and I do love this land.
Some of them were here long before the European invasion and others were European.
This country has been a unique nation for many years, not always in a good way, but it was unique.
I see that uniqueness going away, under a flood of "make us like other nations"...

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Supreme Court Ruling - Full Text

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000008

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The dems and Barck are dead meat, they were salivating running against "this useless court" now they cant, in addition to that as a result of this ruling they can now tax, not penalize, for a whole host of things ,like driving a pick up instead of an electric vehicle,if you want a snowmobile or jet ski or boat you wil be taxed ,not penalized, taxed according Roberts ,because WE are the problem not the lazy non workers, we have too many luxuries ,they can than take this tax and give it to the lazy non workers, because they cant afford to do what we do as a result of our hard work.When the people figure this out there wil be a blood bath this fall.

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i hate to say it, but I TOLD YOU SO. WHO IS YOUR DADDY? BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. LOL

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:toofunny Tis' true.

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And so your solution is not to vote for Romney thus helping to insure Obama's reelection. Romney is sworn to repeal Obamacare his first day in office, he would be an absolute fool to renege on that vow. We know for a fact what Obama will do. Voting for Obama is worth the chance. But you'll vote for John Doe from the Extreme Coupon Party to stick it to the Republican establishment for not nominating Gingrich.

Goofy.

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Enjoy the short term victory DM. As furious as I am over this decision, I see this in the big picture as a boon to Romney and the GOP. Just as the passage of Obamacare against popular opinion in 2010 paved the way for the massive victory of the GOP in the midterms and the emergence of the Tea Party, this decision will be pointed to, along with the flagging economy as the two main reasons why Obama was defeated in November. Watch the stock market. Watch the polls. The 50/50 dead heat stats are going to shift inRomney's favor.

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Romney supports a mandate. Whether that is on the Federal or State level, it's socialism and it's a big government grab. I don't see a difference between the two.

Romney was one of the loudest, imploring voices for adopting the Obamacare/individual mandate and then, during the presidential campaign, lied by denying it. That is just another very long litany of lies which keeps us from having any confidence in the guy. Pimp him to someone else.

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PO can't believe you can't see a difference between the Muslin Obama vs the American Romney.

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Their religions are similar as are the policies they have supported. Just because he maneuvered to the right for this election cycle, doesn't make him a Conservative. Oh, wait, he said he is a "severe" Conservative. :heeheehee

Newt said that he might turn out to be a good President and he might, but I'm not giving this man one inch of leeway. He has a huge documented, flip-flopping record. He has to earn that trust and his words are not enough for me. I want to see him do something. Unfortunately, we will not know that until he is voted in.

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All of that is true. However, we DO know what Obama will do and I for one will vote for anyone but him.

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Yes, we do know and we have a Constitution and a military that takes an oath to uphold the Constitution. I do not fear Obama.

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I was referring to an idea floating around that Obama would stop elections. A friend of mine spoke to someone higher up in the military and he told her that the military would never let that happen. That they would defend the Constitution. So, they won't allow him to reach as far as some are trying to fear monger about. Sorry, I didn't clearly lay out my thought process.

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But if Maritial Law is declared doesn't that stop the voting?

He does have that power.