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Sam 07-04-2012 11:29 PM

Mitt Romney
 
Did you know all this stuff about Romney???
(I didn’t)

Romney Facts:
His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney
He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old.
His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of the State of Michigan
He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan
He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they five children.
Education:
B.A. from Brigham Young University,
J.D. and M.B.A. from Harvard University
Religion:
Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints
Working Background:
After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon missionary.
After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as an attorney.
In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States .
In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.
He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.
In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.
Some Interesting Facts about Romney:
Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people.
Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.
He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year.
He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight years.
He was an unpaid bishop and state president of his church for ten years.
He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three years.
He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years.
He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.
Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our country but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money, service and time than most men.
And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his income.... Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1% and Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013% of his income.
Mitt Romney is Trustworthy:
He will show us his birth certificate
He will show us his high school and college transcripts.
He will show us his social security card.
He will show us his law degree.
He will show us his draft notice.
He will show us his medical records.
He will show us his income tax records.
He will show us he has nothing to hide.
Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the United States.
You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and that he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or practice fiscal irresponsibility. I know he has the ability to turn this financial debacle that the current regime has gotten us into. We won't like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney's background can do it. But, on the minus side, He never was a "Community Organizer", never took drugs or smoked pot, never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists, nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to ........ the US.

And while on the Obama subject, how about a list of Obama’s accomplishments. What businesses did he start, or run, or even work at?

BroJoe 07-05-2012 01:42 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Ole flip flop Romney.

Goldman Sachs owns him. Goldman Sachs owns Obama too.

Go figure.

Michael The Disciple 07-05-2012 02:50 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Yes Sam many good things about him. He also supported abortion and gay rights as Governor of Mass. Ok he said he was wrong back then we can forgive. However just a few months ago he said he was fine with gay couples adopting children.

No way.

Any man that would be that callous and throw innocent children into the custody of homosexuals certainly does not need to be President.

Is he better than Obama? Sure. That dont mean I must vote for him.

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 05:51 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BroJoe (Post 1172931)
Ole flip flop Romney.

Goldman Sachs owns him. Goldman Sachs owns Obama too.

Go figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1172933)
Yes Sam many good things about him. He also supported abortion and gay rights as Governor of Mass. Ok he said he was wrong back then we can forgive. However just a few months ago he said he was fine with gay couples adopting children.

No way.

Any man that would be that callous and throw innocent children into the custody of homosexuals certainly does not need to be President.

Is he better than Obama? Sure. That don't mean I must vote for him.

Thank you.

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 07:16 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1172937)
Thank you.

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

IOW, I would rather die fighting against a Progressive Republican.

acerrak 07-05-2012 07:21 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1172959)
IOW, I would rather die fighting against a Progressive Republican.

im gonna check mark and vote for the republican. may just vote all republican this comming ticket.

Obama had his time to work his change. let some one else in "thats my opinion"

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 07:25 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1172961)
im gonna check mark and vote for the republican. may just vote all republican this comming ticket.

Obama had his time to work his change. let some one else in "thats my opinion"

I'm not voting Republican until they learn to straighten out their progressive selves. If they never do that, fine. Let it sink or swim without me. I don't care anymore. They will have a real revolution on their hands in time to come.

acerrak 07-05-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1172962)
I'm not voting Republican until they learn to straighten out their progressive selves. If they never do that, fine. Let it sink or swim without me. I don't care anymore. They will have a real revolution on their hands in time to come.

you fell to understand we are in a sinking ship, i have to go with the guy who has the bigger bucket to shovel out water. i think romney can do that better than obama

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 08:24 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1172977)
you fell to understand we are in a sinking ship, i have to go with the guy who has the bigger bucket to shovel out water. i think romney can do that better than obama

Romney isn't going to fix what is broken. But, good luck with that anyway.

For a little clarity - what I am trying to say is that even if Mitt wins, we will still be facing many problems that have crept into our society over the past 50 years. Because of Mitt's flip-flopping record, I don't believe he is the man to fix any of it. Some of his past policies have contributed to the problem. We need someone who can go bold and Mitt is not it.

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 05:01 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Nailed it! I believe we need to make a switch. :thumbsup

Quote:

Romney's Tax Confusion

For conservative optimists who think Mr. Fehrnstrom misspoke or is merely dense, his tax absolution gift to Mr. Obama was confirmed by campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul, who tried the same lame jujitsu spin. In any event, Mr. Fehrnstrom is part of the Boston coterie who are closest to Mr. Romney, and he wouldn't say such a thing without the candidate's approval.

Perhaps Mr. Romney is slowly figuring this out, because in a July 4 interview he stated himself that the penalty now is a "tax" after all. But he offered no elaboration, and so the campaign looks confused in addition to being politically dumb.

Mr. Romney promised Republicans he was the best man to make the case against President Obama, whom they desperately want to defeat. So far Mr. Romney is letting them down.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...734793044.html

CC1 07-05-2012 06:40 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by acerrak (Post 1172977)
you fell to understand we are in a sinking ship, i have to go with the guy who has the bigger bucket to shovel out water. i think romney can do that better than obama

Amen! I think PO and her crew are determined not to vote for anyone but the perfect conservative candidate and since they can't do that they want to throw the election to Obama.

The logic makes no sense at all because there is so much at stake. I would much rather have a moderate businessman in office than an out and out ultra liberal who is expanding the role of the Federal Government and our national debt at an exhorbinant rate.

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173158)
Amen! I think PO and her crew are determined not to vote for anyone but the perfect conservative candidate and since they can't do that they want to throw the election to Obama.

The logic makes no sense at all because there is so much at stake. I would much rather have a moderate businessman in office than an out and out ultra liberal who is expanding the role of the Federal Government and our national debt at an exhorbinant rate.

"Mr. Romney promised Republicans he was the best man to make the case against President Obama, whom they desperately want to defeat. So far Mr. Romney is letting them down."

HELLO!!! Anyone home?!!! KNOCK, KNOCK!!!! :heeheehee

Sam 07-05-2012 08:44 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173158)
Amen! I think PO and her crew are determined not to vote for anyone but the perfect conservative candidate and since they can't do that they want to throw the election to Obama.

The logic makes no sense at all because there is so much at stake. I would much rather have a moderate businessman in office than an out and out ultra liberal who is expanding the role of the Federal Government and our national debt at an exhorbinant rate.

some conservatives are like the woman/mother who was willing to split the baby at Solomon's suggestion. If they can't get the type conservative they want they will throw the election to Obama in spite to "punish" the Republican party but actually harming us all.

Pressing-On 07-05-2012 10:13 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1173238)
some conservatives are like the woman/mother who was willing to split the baby at Solomon's suggestion. If they can't get the type conservative they want they will throw the election to Obama in spite to "punish" the Republican party but actually harming us all.

Romney has an Achilles' heel with the mandate/tax and you are saying WE are doing the harm? Amazing, simply amazing.

CC1 07-05-2012 11:30 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1173262)
Romney has an Achilles' heel with the mandate/tax and you are saying WE are doing the harm? Amazing, simply amazing.

The cold hard facts are that if you can't see the reality that Romney is much better for this country than Obama, despite Romney's faults then I really don't think you can be reasoned with .

So yes, of course I will blame Republicans / Conservatives like yourself that are so short sighted you would give a man who is determined to make America a socialist country another four years in office to pursue that agenda PLUS appoint extremely liberal Federal judges for life.

You still have never addressed the fact that despite his faults Romney is much better than Obama. I would love to see you face to face and have you look me in the eye and tell me you think trashing Romney and not voting for him, trying to insure an Obama win, is the best thing for this country.

It really makes me angry when I think about my two little granddaughters in the next room who will be so greatly affected by another four years of Obama that people like you want to play these silly games.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 05:29 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173265)
The cold hard facts are that if you can't see the reality that Romney is much better for this country than Obama, despite Romney's faults then I really don't think you can be reasoned with .

So yes, of course I will blame Republicans / Conservatives like yourself that are so short sighted you would give a man who is determined to make America a socialist country another four years in office to pursue that agenda PLUS appoint extremely liberal Federal judges for life.

You still have never addressed the fact that despite his faults Romney is much better than Obama. I would love to see you face to face and have you look me in the eye and tell me you think trashing Romney and not voting for him, trying to insure an Obama win, is the best thing for this country.

It really makes me angry when I think about my two little granddaughters in the next room who will be so greatly affected by another four years of Obama that people like you want to play these silly games.

I'm sorry this conversation makes you angry. The cold hard facts are that politics change daily and there are rumblings of discontent starting to grow against Romney.

If you think some of the Newt supporters are angry at how Mitt misrepresented Newt, try adding 10 times the anger to the Paul supporters. He has got a huge problem.

Therefore, we WILL stand ready by informing delegates that they may be bound or unbound under their state laws, but they are NOT bound in Tampa. They do not have to vote for Romney on the first ballot.

He has not been elected as the nominee. That does not happen until Convention.

If you want to save America, then let the process work. If people are that afraid of Obama, they will vote for the Republican nominee in November.

Quote:

Conservative griping about Mitt Romney grows

The Romney campaign is grappling with an unexpected swell of Republican complaints about the former Massachusetts governor’s political operation, at least temporarily disrupting the legendarily disciplined message of the presumptive GOP nominee.

What began over the weekend with a few stray tweets from Fox News media baron Rupert Murdoch has grown into a larger chorus of criticism from the right over the deftness (or lack thereof) of Romney’s team.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1zqBL8GtS
Let me quell some fears as I have always believed the military will be on our side.

Quote:

“I think two things are different this time,” he said. “First, most Americans are against Obamacare. And secondly, I don’t believe — and you call me up and tell me if I’m wrong about this — I don’t believe that you could find a United States soldier who would follow a presidential order to descend on a state to round up or shoot fellow Americans because they refuse to follow a congressional order to buy health insurance.” - Walter E. Williams

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/05/wa...#ixzz1zqDuYrlU


I told Crakjak that when and if Romney gets the nomination, which happens only at Convention, you will not hear a word from me. Until then - we work for a Brokered Convention - it is our right as Americans.

:fireworks

Michael The Disciple 07-06-2012 05:59 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

It really makes me angry when I think about my two little granddaughters in the next room who will be so greatly affected by another four years of Obama that people like you want to play these silly games.
Silly games? There are grandaughters out there that if Romney has his way who could be adopted by homosexuals. Yes you heard right. Dont ask me to cast a vote for someone who is "fine" with that. I cant believe you would either.

CC1 07-06-2012 07:23 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1173277)
I'm sorry this conversation makes you angry. The cold hard facts are that politics change daily and there are rumblings of discontent starting to grow against Romney.

If you think some of the Newt supporters are angry at how Mitt misrepresented Newt, try adding 10 times the anger to the Paul supporters. He has got a huge problem.

Therefore, we WILL stand ready by informing delegates that they may be bound or unbound under their state laws, but they are NOT bound in Tampa. They do not have to vote for Romney on the first ballot.

He has not been elected as the nominee. That does not happen until Convention.

If you want to save America, then let the process work. If people are that afraid of Obama, they will vote for the Republican nominee in November.



Let me quell some fears as I have always believed the military will be on our side.




I told Crakjak that when and if Romney gets the nomination, which happens only at Convention, you will not hear a word from me. Until then - we work for a Brokered Convention - it is our right as Americans.

:fireworks

Your chance of a brokered convention is the same chance I have of marrying Halle Berry.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 09:29 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173302)
Your chance of a brokered convention is the same chance I have of marrying Halle Berry.

You are probably correct, but even without Romney in the equation, you still had no chance. :heeheehee

BTW, this line from Paul Ryan is not going to be enough, I'm afraid.

Quote:

Exclusive - Paul Ryan: We Win, We Repeal

“I don’t think those differences will be resolved between now and the election,”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Win-We-Repeal
Quote:

York: Should Mitt Romney apologize for Romneycare?

The problem isn't just that Romney frequently finds himself making detailed explanations, which is never a good thing in politics. The problem is that it always sounds a little odd to voters for Romney to say that when he did it in Massachusetts, it was a great thing, but when Barack Obama did it nationwide, it was a terrible thing.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/york-s...rticle/2501432
"Federalism: this talking point kept getting used during the debates, and it made as little sense then as it does now. Sure, Massachusetts had the right to implement a terrible policy, it doesn't mean we should not judge the person who implemented the terrible policy. And I'd like to know what makes Massachusetts so unique that a government mandated program is somehow okay for them but not for, say, Texans."

"Conservatives" defending Mitt Romney on health care are as bad as those defending the Chief Justice on last week's decision, though I suspect there is a rather large overlap between the two groups."

Ferd 07-06-2012 10:08 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Not voting for Romney means electing Obama.

Romney might not be 100% what I want but he is 100% not Obama who is driving America to the brink.

good grief people! losing on principle is LOSING!

aegsm76 07-06-2012 10:12 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1173341)
Not voting for Romney means electing Obama.

Romney might not be 100% what I want but he is 100% not Obama who is driving America to the brink.

good grief people! losing on principle is LOSING!

The old saying "cut-off your nose to spite your face", comes to mind.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 10:44 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1173341)
Not voting for Romney means electing Obama.

Romney might not be 100% what I want but he is 100% not Obama who is driving America to the brink.

good grief people! losing on principle is LOSING!

Laying aside principle in order to win. :hmmm I don't get that. If we had always stood on principle, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Winston Churchill ~ "“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.”

It makes no sense to me to support ORomney.

CC1 07-06-2012 11:12 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1173359)
Laying aside principle in order to win. :hmmm I don't get that. If we had always stood on principle, we wouldn't be in this mess.

If you want to marginalize your vote that is your right. However in your quest to only support a candidate with ALL of your principles you will allow candidates with virtually NONE of your principles to win and determine what happens in this country. That is reality.

Ronald Reagan said compromise was not a dirty word. That he would much rather get 75% of what he wanted t hat nothing. I feel the same way.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 11:21 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173375)
If you want to marginalize your vote that is your right. However in your quest to only support a candidate with ALL of your principles you will allow candidates with virtually NONE of your principles to win and determine what happens in this country. That is reality.

Ronald Reagan said compromise was not a dirty word. That he would much rather get 75% of what he wanted t hat nothing. I feel the same way.

You know, I just don't think Ronald Reagan could possibly mean compromising with someone who has a notorious record at flip-flopping. He handled the healthcare ruling horribly and looked even weaker as a candidate.

Compromising with someone who has different ideas would be like, for example, Paul Ryan when he didn't get total Conservative support on his ideas. That is a whole different story, Se, Si, Uno.

AreYouReady? 07-06-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173265)
The cold hard facts are that if you can't see the reality that Romney is much better for this country than Obama, despite Romney's faults then I really don't think you can be reasoned with .

So yes, of course I will blame Republicans / Conservatives like yourself that are so short sighted you would give a man who is determined to make America a socialist country another four years in office to pursue that agenda PLUS appoint extremely liberal Federal judges for life.

You still have never addressed the fact that despite his faults Romney is much better than Obama. I would love to see you face to face and have you look me in the eye and tell me you think trashing Romney and not voting for him, trying to insure an Obama win, is the best thing for this country.

It really makes me angry when I think about my two little granddaughters in the next room who will be so greatly affected by another four years of Obama that people like you want to play these silly games.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1173359)
Laying aside principle in order to win. :hmmm I don't get that. If we had always stood on principle, we wouldn't be in this mess.

I don't think Romney is going to change anything Obama has done. His flip-flopping on other issues makes me wonder who he really is.

And it is a sad state of affairs when the American people are reduced to not voting for someone is giving the vote for someone else.

It's even sadder when your peers get angry because someone else won't vote for their candidate.

The adversary has succeeded in causing many divisions within the body of Christ.

I am not voting for Romney and my not voting for him is not going to get Obama reelected despite the political rhetoric coming from our peers.

The decline of America did not start with Obama. He isn't the boogeyman. He is the tail end of a procession of boogeymen before him. He is just finishing up what started decades ago. It started with the impostors who claimed to be conservative and christian. It started when Congress betrayed it's citizens in 1913 after all efforts of preceding presidents to keep out the foreign central banks from controlling America's money supply.

Of course those who don't bother to study political history will not understand when and how we got into this predicament in the first place.

If America falls, the reason will be because she has refused God. Plain and simple. Where was the church in the earlier days when our leaders and courts were allowing abortion to be the law of the land? This opened the door for the slaughter of over 50,000,000 babies in the womb. Let's not forget that it was conservative/republican appointed majority that did this ruling that had this extreme impact upon society. So appointing liberal judges is not an issue when conservative judges were making decisions that were assigned (in the political mind) to do this job. Where was the church when one atheist woman brought lawsuit against school prayer?

These two issues and now the issue of homosexual marriages are nothing but political footballs.

We have entered into the days of Noe and the days of Lot and this is ordained from above because Jesus said it was going to happen. Why? Because Jesus knew the heart of man and woman way back then. He knew this day was a coming.

We can take all our examples of Israel falling into foreign hands time and time again because they chose to worship Baal instead of the Creator. God rose up Kings to conquer Israel and take them into captivity. Finally, He had to scatter them among the four winds of the earth.

The churches of Christ is supposed to have only one King...that king is Jesus. Yet, governments have conquered the church by using the Apostles own words against them. Romans 13. Now we have hate speech laws, which will apply to church sermons in the future because the church has allowed herself to be governed under 501 C 3 rules. It's all going to incrementally be tied in like roads that are planned and come together at the last phase of construction. Let the church try to preach something the government does not like and see how fast the building structures get taken down.


I am willing to bet a great many Romney supporters have no idea the anti-christian/anti-freedom laws passed during the Bush administration. Go look them up if you have not already.

So...in saying all of that, I will say this. Romney is not going to reverse anything. He is part of that establishment. If Obama does not finish the work that was started in this country decades ago, Romney will ...if he is elected. Doesn't anybody think it to be strange that the Obama healthcare is a really big issue right now and his adversary [Romney] is in line with the healthcare law essentially supporting it because he had one passed in his own state when he was governor?

As for me, I am going to place my life and my house in the hands of God. Trying to place total trust in God in these perilous times is going to be easy or hard, depending upon how solid our resolve to trust in Him is. The people of God will be divided in this very carnal issue and blaming a brother or sister for what we get in the White House is nonproductive.

Whoever is elected in this presidential election will be the providence of God because He is working to bring about His will in this world. Sometimes things have to get worse before God can work to bring the world to repentance.

Do not make the mistake in thinking your vote for the lesser of two evils will supersede God's divine will for this country and for the world.

I am going to place America in God's merciful hands and ask mercy for His bride.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 04:00 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1173401)
I don't think Romney is going to change anything Obama has done. His flip-flopping on other issues makes me wonder who he really is.

And it is a sad state of affairs when the American people are reduced to not voting for someone is giving the vote for someone else.

It's even sadder when your peers get angry because someone else won't vote for their candidate.

The adversary has succeeded in causing many divisions within the body of Christ.

I am not voting for Romney and my not voting for him is not going to get Obama reelected despite the political rhetoric coming from our peers.

The decline of America did not start with Obama. He isn't the boogeyman. He is the tail end of a procession of boogeymen before him. He is just finishing up what started decades ago. It started with the impostors who claimed to be conservative and christian. It started when Congress betrayed it's citizens in 1913 after all efforts of preceding presidents to keep out the foreign central banks from controlling America's money supply.

Of course those who don't bother to study political history will not understand when and how we got into this predicament in the first place.

If America falls, the reason will be because she has refused God. Plain and simple. Where was the church in the earlier days when our leaders and courts were allowing abortion to be the law of the land? This opened the door for the slaughter of over 50,000,000 babies in the womb. Let's not forget that it was conservative/republican appointed majority that did this ruling that had this extreme impact upon society. So appointing liberal judges is not an issue when conservative judges were making decisions that were assigned (in the political mind) to do this job. Where was the church when one atheist woman brought lawsuit against school prayer?

These two issues and now the issue of homosexual marriages are nothing but political footballs.

We have entered into the days of Noe and the days of Lot and this is ordained from above because Jesus said it was going to happen. Why? Because Jesus knew the heart of man and woman way back then. He knew this day was a coming.

We can take all our examples of Israel falling into foreign hands time and time again because they chose to worship Baal instead of the Creator. God rose up Kings to conquer Israel and take them into captivity. Finally, He had to scatter them among the four winds of the earth.

The churches of Christ is supposed to have only one King...that king is Jesus. Yet, governments have conquered the church by using the Apostles own words against them. Romans 13. Now we have hate speech laws, which will apply to church sermons in the future because the church has allowed herself to be governed under 501 C 3 rules. It's all going to incrementally be tied in like roads that are planned and come together at the last phase of construction. Let the church try to preach something the government does not like and see how fast the building structures get taken down.


I am willing to bet a great many Romney supporters have no idea the anti-christian/anti-freedom laws passed during the Bush administration. Go look them up if you have not already.

So...in saying all of that, I will say this. Romney is not going to reverse anything. He is part of that establishment. If Obama does not finish the work that was started in this country decades ago, Romney will ...if he is elected. Doesn't anybody think it to be strange that the Obama healthcare is a really big issue right now and his adversary [Romney] is in line with the healthcare law essentially supporting it because he had one passed in his own state when he was governor?

As for me, I am going to place my life and my house in the hands of God. Trying to place total trust in God in these perilous times is going to be easy or hard, depending upon how solid our resolve to trust in Him is. The people of God will be divided in this very carnal issue and blaming a brother or sister for what we get in the White House is nonproductive.

Whoever is elected in this presidential election will be the providence of God because He is working to bring about His will in this world. Sometimes things have to get worse before God can work to bring the world to repentance.

Do not make the mistake in thinking your vote for the lesser of two evils will supersede God's divine will for this country and for the world.

I am going to place America in God's merciful hands and ask mercy for His bride.

Excellent post! Thanks for taking the time. :thumbsup

Well, I guess everything that can be said has been said here. Enough articles and information to make an intelligent decision have been presented.

Good Luck to everyone in November!

CC1 07-06-2012 05:08 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Romney is at least a businessman, a capitialist. You may not like his flip flopping on social issues but you cannot deny that from a financial standpoint his view of what makes an economy tick is a lot better than our Community Organizer in Chief.

You guys are just plain silly to try and act like Romney and Obama are the same just because Romney has been liberal on some social issues.

Right now the most important thing is having someone at the helm who understands capitalism, free enterprise, and how our countries economy works.

Surely even you guys who are so blinded by your hatred of Romney can be honest enough to admit that there are significant differences in their views of economics and government.

Trying to say that Obama and Romney are the same just make you guys look silly.

AreYouReady? 07-06-2012 05:34 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
First of all I do not hate either Romney or Obama. Hate is unproductive and I choose to leave it alone.

It sounds like you are projecting your hatred of Obama onto those of us who see what is going on here.

Study the political history of America since 1864 and you will understand the pattern.

No amount of condescending language from you towards me will make me change my mind.

I choose to put America into God's hands at this point and let God be at the helm instead of Romney or Obama.

Michael The Disciple 07-06-2012 05:44 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173476)
Romney is at least a businessman, a capitialist. You may not like his flip flopping on social issues but you cannot deny that from a financial standpoint his view of what makes an economy tick is a lot better than our Community Organizer in Chief.

You guys are just plain silly to try and act like Romney and Obama are the same just because Romney has been liberal on some social issues.

Right now the most important thing is having someone at the helm who understands capitalism, free enterprise, and how our countries economy works.

Surely even you guys who are so blinded by your hatred of Romney can be honest enough to admit that there are significant differences in their views of economics and government.

Trying to say that Obama and Romney are the same just make you guys look silly.

Being a Capitalist in itself is no wonderful thing. The scriptures have warnings against vulture Capatalism. I do not hate Romney at all. As I told Sam I think there are some good things about him. Yes I certainly would rather see him as Pres than Barak Hussien Obama.

Yet I could not throw what teeny bit of support my vote makes to someone who is "fine" with throwing innocent Children into the arms of waiting homosexuals. If you are "fine" with that so be it.

If he retracts his support of gay adoption during the campaign AND if he chooses a good VP partner I might vote for him.

Pressing-On 07-06-2012 06:10 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173476)
Romney is at least a businessman, a capitialist. You may not like his flip flopping on social issues but you cannot deny that from a financial standpoint his view of what makes an economy tick is a lot better than our Community Organizer in Chief.

You guys are just plain silly to try and act like Romney and Obama are the same just because Romney has been liberal on some social issues.

Right now the most important thing is having someone at the helm who understands capitalism, free enterprise, and how our countries economy works.

Surely even you guys who are so blinded by your hatred of Romney can be honest enough to admit that there are significant differences in their views of economics and government.

Trying to say that Obama and Romney are the same just make you guys look silly.

Oh, I get it. Money is more important to you than the moral fabric of our society. Not sure I would have admitted that in public, Se, Si Uno. :heeheehee

Like I said - Good Luck in November.

CC1 07-06-2012 07:39 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1173490)
Oh, I get it. Money is more important to you than the moral fabric of our society. Not sure I would have admitted that in public, Se, Si Uno. :heeheehee

Like I said - Good Luck in November.

Not money. The well being of our economy. I am not talking about personal gain here. I am talking about taking our country back from the brink of bankruptcy and socialism.

The moral fabric of our society is important of course but so are other things. I am not going to not vote for Romney because his views on abortion and gay marriage are wrong. That is asinine with our economy in the shape it is in right now.

You are never going to get everything you want in a candidate. Perhaps if the economy were humming along you could throw your little tantrum and it wouldn't really matter. This year it does. Our economy is close to collapse and we are led by a man who would love for that to lead to socialism.

Anybody with kids or grandkids MUST think beyond social issues and take into account economic ones.

Esaias 07-06-2012 08:07 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173499)
Not money. The well being of our economy. I am not talking about personal gain here. I am talking about taking our country back from the brink of bankruptcy and socialism.

The moral fabric of our society is important of course but so are other things. I am not going to not vote for Romney because his views on abortion and gay marriage are wrong. That is asinine with our economy in the shape it is in right now.

You are never going to get everything you want in a candidate. Perhaps if the economy were humming along you could throw your little tantrum and it wouldn't really matter. This year it does. Our economy is close to collapse and we are led by a man who would love for that to lead to socialism.

Anybody with kids or grandkids MUST think beyond social issues and take into account economic ones.

Our economic issues are a direct result of our social issues.

It's called ...



wait for it....











THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD!

:dogpat

AreYouReady? 07-06-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173499)
Not money. The well being of our economy. I am not talking about personal gain here. I am talking about taking our country back from the brink of bankruptcy and socialism.

What? Please tell me it ain't so!

Seriously. Obama did not do this by himself. It was already $11 Trillion when he got into office. Congress just keeps raising the debt ceiling year after year. What's Romney going to do about it except to cut the social safety nets like Social Security?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173499)
The moral fabric of our society is important of course but so are other things. I am not going to not vote for Romney because his views on abortion and gay marriage are wrong. That is asinine with our economy in the shape it is in right now.

Still wouldn't be a problem if people would evoke II Chronicles 7:14. Because the American people will not do that, Romney is not going to save America. I'm afraid that America needs supernatural help, divine guidance, and for God to smile down on us. Does America deserve that?


Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1173499)
You are never going to get everything you want in a candidate. Perhaps if the economy were humming along you could throw your little tantrum and it wouldn't really matter. This year it does. Our economy is close to collapse and we are led by a man who would love for that to lead to socialism.

Anybody with kids or grandkids MUST think beyond social issues and take into account economic ones.

The economic collapse is going to take place because the bankers want to put in a new monetary system. The old one has to collapse first.

However, when it does and if Romney is in office, he will do what his predecessors have done...blame the preceding president. :heeheehee


It's all in God's hands my friend.

Michael The Disciple 07-07-2012 06:30 AM

Re: Mitt Romney
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1173509)
Our economic issues are a direct result of our social issues.

It's called ...



wait for it....











THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD!

:dogpat

This is wisdom.

Some people just dont see the truth. Amerika is a very evil nation. It is not the same country I grew up in. It would have NEVER been thought of, it would have been considered a hideous crime for babies to slain, homosexuals treated as normal and even handing children over to them.

And we would vote someone like that in as our President! So unreal.


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