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the boston globe is now reporting that romney was ceo, chairman and sole stockholder for bain capital a full 3 years after he said he left. what happened during those 3 years? investment in stericycle and major outsourcing. shipping jobs overseas and selling products back in us. where is the loyalty to the american worker? where are the jobs romney said he created while he was outsourcing? romney has lied to the american people about his tenure at bain so he could try to cover up his outsourcing shenanigans. what else is he hiding? now drudge has leaked that condi rice is frontrunner for vp slot. mitt is trying to cover up this bain story.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...by-obama-camp/

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Who cares? He's not any different than Clinton was. I am so sick of politicians, and people who defend them. There are not very many decent people running for political office, IMO!! To me politicians need to go through psychological screening before elected for any office, especially that of President.

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above article reports that romney received $100,000 dollars to be ceo of bain during the time he said he had left.

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clinton lied about a marital affair. romney is lying on his resume to the american people before he gets the job. i care and concerned citizens care. your attitude could lead us to the loss of freedom in america.

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I am not talking just about his affair, I am talking about him using state employees to help him have and hide his extra marital affairs. Politicians are the reason we are losing our freedoms, not the people.

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proof romney outsourced in 98, before he said he left in 99. romney invests 14 million in outsourcing. then he runs ad calling obama a liar for saying romney is an outsourcer.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederic...n-outsourcing/

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DM, in case you haven't noticed, americans have lost most of our freedoms under the Bush Administration when they passed the Patriot Acts without even reading the bill. Most of our freedoms are already gone. Did you know what is in that 3000+ page bill? Neither did the Congress.

Then we got the "Affordable Healthcare Act" which Pelosi said that it had to be passed so that we can know what is in it? HUH? Isn't that opposite what our elected things are supposed to do? Aren't they supposed to read the bills then debate the contents before passage? Apparently not. Which is why we got a perfunctory Affordable Healthcare Repeal yesterday, which is a sieve that won't hold water. They knew that the democratically controlled Senate will not repeal a bill which does nothing they told us it will do. I wonder how most americans would feel if they knew exactly what is in these bills? And those are rep/dem passed bills that will affect all of us.

The blame should not be on voters, but on the politicians who change after they get voted into office. Or maybe they (past politicians) lied to us during the campaign such as what Romney & Obama are doing now.

Cindy is right. We all know they lie and it is beyond me why any of them are being defended by any voter.

Heh. If people cared, they would vote em all out, wipe the slate clean and put in Congress 535 brand new people and one brand new president who is not a politician.

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Just another ploy by the left to try and get at Mitt's tax returns.

Yawn.

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Baron....who does your hair? I love it!

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The actual point is that Romney has put out an ad calling Obama a liar. So, now it is turning into a tit for tat on who is the biggest liar. That's to be expected.

And I do want to see Romney's tax returns. I want to know where his money came from and how much he had overseas. I also want him to release his records at Bain that he isn't willing to show us.

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His relevant tax returns have been released.

An obvious lack of understanding on the part of some in the media as to what it means to be " “a passive, limited partner [with] no management capacity." This is not only what he claims today but what was filed with the Massachusetts State Ethics Commission in 2002.

Where his money came from and how much he has overseas is relevant to what? It is not illegal or dishonest to invest overseas.

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For those that are interested in facts...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...zUfW_blog.html

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He's running for President of the United States on his business record, but he won't go beyond disclosing 2010 and an estimate for 2011. Having accounts in Switzerland, Bermuda, and the Cayman Island is going to be a reflection on his values and commitment to a country he is wanting to lead.

It is only relevant to me because, he refuses to talk about it. That makes it look like he is hiding something. We should know everything about any one person running for the highest office in the land. That is how I feel about it. No secrets. If you don't want to live in a glass house - all around - stay out of the running.

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Many people file for extensions and offering only an estimate on 2011 is fair.

He has met the minimum requirements, why so hostile?

Secrets? Or a way to avoid letting the Obama camp complain about what another American does with their own money.

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Obama's camp has it's own huge problems. But, that isn't going to take away from the problems that Romney has.

It was under party pressure that Romney even released his 2010 returns. He didn't mention the Swiss account or his other funds in foreign countries. He then had to make an amendment to his return filing an extension.

That is what got the ball rolling and it's his own fault. He was looking sneaky by moving his Swiss account into his wife's name before he ran for Governor placing it into a blind trust.

He has 6 Cayman accounts that are worth $7 and 32 million which are run by Bain. He closed the Swiss account before running for President. His Bermuda tax havens are in jurisdictions where there is virtually no tax or compliance. So, we don't really know what he's got or what he is worth.

Earlier this summer he reported receiving new income ($2M) from Bain. Bain has 138 funds set up in the Cayman Islands. He has interests in at least twelve, claiming he doesn't save on not paying taxes. But we don't really know or have any way to find out because, it's all hidden behind confidentiality disclaimers.

It just looks like something the American people need to know about their presumptive leader, IMO.

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So what?

He has money, good for him.

You act as if these things you are saying make him a bad person.

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Money cometh..............:D

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No Sir, that is not my angle. I want transparency with a nominee if he has money in foreign tax havens. I want to know how much he is worth and why he stutters when the issue is brought up.

He isn't required to disclose, but there has been a long standing precedent to do it.

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Yea, baby! :heeheehee

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It was OK for FDR, JFK, John Kerry and other wealthy people to run for President but not for Mittens?

It's OK for our Senators and Representatives to have offshore bank accounts but not for Mitt Romney?

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Ron Paul 2012!

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ehhh... doesn't bother me.

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How can BHO even say "transparency"?

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And that is your right. It bothers me. And it bothers me that only the wealthy are given the chance to run for high office. There are other very loyal and qualified people who don't stand a chance.

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He reminds me of a preacher who taught on adultery while he was committing adultery. :icecream

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I'm with Baron. Just don't see the big deal. Outsourcing at Bain. Money in tax havens. Sounds like good business decisions to me. The fact that he and other businesses practice such things should be a sign of just how messed up this country is. I'm conservative, but I don't blame any business for outsourcing. They do so for the same reasons we have an immigrant problem, because there are jobs that the American people have deemed "beneath" them to do.

You have to ask these questions in reverse. How come businesses have to outsource? Maybe because the American people have gotten lazy. More unions, more pay, more benefits, more rights has equaled less work, less quality, less productivity. All of which cost companies money, which cost us money.

How come businesses keep money overseas? To keep the government from getting it. I don't blame them. I understand the responsibility to pay taxes. But if that money was used for good, in an accountable way then most would not try to keep from paying. The government loses millions of dollars every year. Millions. Lost, in other words, its gone and they have no idea where it went. And yet nothing is done. A business loses millions and heads are gonna roll, people are going to get fired. Government? It's just an accepted loss.

So yeah, send the money overseas. Hopefully one day this country and its government will be worth investing in. Until then, its to be expected. Once again, sounds like a good business decision.

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Only one President has refused to release his school records.
Anyone care to guess who that is?

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I don't disagree with you here in the least. :thumbsup

Now, let Romney make that argument as well. The public records are not showing what Romney has claimed, that he wasn't part of Bain after 1999. Let him produce those records to clear his name. He was asked by Gingrich to produce his records back in February. So, he's like Obama on accusations, dragging his feet and making his own problems. He could have nipped this in the bud a long time ago.

And let him hit Obama as hard as he did his fellow conservatives during the primaries. That's what I would like to see.

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I disagree that there are jobs that americans deemed beneath them to do.
The reason we have an immigration problem is because large corporations do not want to pay a livable wage for Americans to do agricultural and other work.

Small businesses have a hard time paying a livable wage for themselves, much less add an employee or two simply because there are no jobs out there for the economy to hum.

Americans must have a livable wage in order to even comply with the laws that are passed.
Look at what laws are passed in America requiring americans to buy and pay. Most states have mandatory auto insurance laws. Now we have the "Affordable Healthcare Act". Inflated prices on homes, food, fuel etc. Taxes and licenses on just about every activity known in this country.

I live in a "right to work" state. The jobs that were brought here decades ago were done so on the fact that the people would work for lower wages, lower benefits and the unions were barred from penalizing people who wanted to come to work during a strike. This took a lot of the umph out of unions here.

Yet, when the mass exodus of jobs happened, this state, which was the poorest state in the Union before, was hit very very hard. Every small town had factories and jobs, then all of them were gone to the Asian nations.

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uummmm, let me guess......

the one who was a foreign/non-US citizen student?

At that time he wasn't considered an American citizen, nor was he when elected to the Illinois legislature.

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Here is, even, Fox News criticizing their boy.

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baron!

Hey brother!

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Which candidate has been using a dead Connenticut mans social security number for years? That is scary
. Thats nothing to be concerned about in todays Amerika?

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Wish mine was that thick! :nod

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It is amazing to me how worked up people are on how Romney spends his own money yet let lying BO pass with sending OUR money from the stimulus to overseas companies.

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Esther, I don't believe anyone is giving Obama a pass. The thread is focusing on Romney.

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PO what is it you don't get about his role at Bain...it is very clear he had no control. Why are you continuing to disregard facts?

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We are still "fact checking", Baron. :D

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