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Truthseeker 07-22-2012 07:09 AM

Is this man UPC? anyone know of him?
 
http://lightyears.blogs.cnn.com/2012...ome/?hpt=hp_c3


ex navy seal that help bring in apollo crew. look through whole picture set top see why I ask.

navygoat1998 07-22-2012 07:13 AM

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http://johnwolfram.org/

canam 07-22-2012 10:51 AM

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he was at one time at least spoke in my church years ago deputizing for i beleive vietnam ? havent seen or heard of him since prolly 90,s

RandyWayne 07-22-2012 11:59 AM

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He was our pastor for a few years in the early 80s.

Pheobe2 07-22-2012 08:32 PM

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he came by my church in the 80's also as a missionary to somewhere. I don't remember where to.

Hesetmefree238 07-22-2012 08:52 PM

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He preached at our church just a few weeks ago. He's a UPC missionary to Vietnam. He has an amazing testimony.

RandyWayne 07-22-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238 (Post 1177332)
He preached at our church just a few weeks ago. He's a UPC missionary to Vietnam. He has an amazing testimony.

When he was our pastor he was a true man of God who you would follow, even if you disagreed (which we did) with some of his views. He inspired respect -didn't demand it.

CC1 07-22-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1177333)
When he was our pastor he was a true man of God who you would follow, even if you disagreed (which we did) with some of his views. He inspired respect -didn't demand it.

RW, now I am curious. What are some of the views he had that you disagreed with?

RandyWayne 07-22-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1177341)
RW, now I am curious. What are some of the views he had that you disagreed with?

He was really on fire for most (all?) of the UPC holiness standards of the time.

MrsMcD 07-26-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1177344)
He was really on fire for most (all?) of the UPC holiness standards of the time.

lol - he is a awesome man of God. He upheld the UPC standards when he was my pastor about eight years ago.

Sweet Pea 07-26-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 1178175)
lol - he is a awesome man of God. He upheld the UPC standards when he was my pastor about eight years ago.

He IS a great man - with a sweet wife! Knowing him from years ago, I'm pretty sure that he still upholds the UPC standards, but I don't believe that he is judgmental about them. Only "knowing" him and not "sitting under" him as a pastor, I cannot vouch for that definitely; but I do believe that he is is a kind man. I know that he has fellow-shipped with former UPC ministers that he attended college with.

MawMaw 07-26-2012 06:11 PM

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An Apostolic Preacher and a Navy Seal too.
Awesome! :)

Sweet Pea 07-26-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1178399)
An Apostolic Preacher and a Navy Seal too.
Awesome! :)


Well, Lacey, he wasn't "apostolic" when he was seal. In fact, he was pretty "wild" before he gave his heart to the Lord. :nod He didn't become an "apostolic preacher" until several years after leaving the Navy.

RandyWayne 07-26-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea (Post 1178397)
He IS a great man - with a sweet wife! Knowing him from years ago, I'm pretty sure that he still upholds the UPC standards, but I don't believe that he is judgmental about them. Only "knowing" him and not "sitting under" him as a pastor, I cannot vouch for that definitely; but I do believe that he is is a kind man. I know that he has fellow-shipped with former UPC ministers that he attended college with.

Him and Deb were at our house many times when we first started attending. He WAS pretty strict at the time but he was not part of the "royal priesthood" that is so many pastors. I don't ever recall ever hearing a fear based sermon about someone disobeying the man of God and dying as a result. OK, I do remember fear based sermons but he was not a man who felt he was always being challenged. He gained respect because he was respectable, not because he demanded it because of his high and lofty position.

Sweet Pea 07-26-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1178436)
Him and Deb were at our house many times when we first started attending. He WAS pretty strict at the time but he was not part of the "royal priesthood" that is so many pastors. I don't ever recall ever hearing a fear based sermon about someone disobeying the man of God and dying as a result. OK, I do remember fear based sermons but he was not a man who felt he was always being challenged. He gained respect because he was respectable, not because he demanded it because of his high and lofty position.

Have not personally talked with him in many years, but when I knew him, he was always a humble man. Yes, he was pretty strict when I knew him, but I think part of that was because he felt God had brought him so far that he wanted to be as far from what he had been as he could. It was always my opinion that he lived the life he felt called to live, but he didn't expect everyone else to live just like he did. Now, as a pastor, he may have had stricter "standards" that he preached in his church. I know in recent years he has maintained fellowship with several more liberal pastors that he knew in college.

houston 07-26-2012 09:39 PM

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Did he write an autobiography?

returnman 07-27-2012 07:31 AM

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I have met and talked to Tom Bracken a couple times. He was a seal and came into pentecost about the same time. Very nice man. He also went to CBC.


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