What to do with fake messages in tongues
 

What should happen when someone gives a fake message in tongues?

Depends on a wide variety of variables.

There is no one size fits all method.

A pastor friend of mine had a lady who was just a spiritual vagabond with no credibility whatsoever get up and start giving out a "tongue" once when he was in the process of getting ready to dismiss a Sunday morning service.

When she got done, he said, "Yea I say, let's go eat lunch. You're dismissed."

The message was communicated.:)

I have sit them down, sang them down. And preached them down. And sometimes just told them to Shut Up.

Pretty much the same here.

I don't think I have ever used the words "shut up," but I have said, "You're out of order, sit down."

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:killinme

Since I have been a child and grew up in the church. I have had a sense of the sincere and real vs the fake and show.

I think ministers need to stand up and tell folks with authority, That is not of God!

Nathan Eckstadt

Love it!

I've saw it dealt with in several different ways, as CS said, it really depends on the situation. U def have to stop the fake IMO. I was in service before where a "fake" message tried to go forth but the minister rebuked in Jesus' name the "fake" then there after a genuine message from God to the church came forth. Satan was trying to prevent the church from being edified but was not successful thank the Lord. Many times I think it is people's flesh but other times it is def the devil trying to keep the church from being edified.

Since I am not the pastor I would do nothing..lol...I would ask him later what he felt about it.

Since I don't see "take the offender out back and give him 40 lashes" I did not vote :club

The only problem I forsee is that he lashes back.Then you both can have coffee here ....at the jail..:preach Think of its as ministry..prison ministry.

If it's a poor little New convert I would ignore it and talk with them afterwards

I have been instructed more than once to start playing music to drown them out !!!!! hahahahahahahahaha! no kidding :heeheehee

:rockband Drown them out??? too funny.

yes i have !!! :killinme

one would rattle off, then another, then another, then the first one would come back trying againg. then i was given the cue to start singing a song :killinme

I had to post this.
Several years ago at La Dist Campmeeting a politician was up
on the mic.Poor man had it all against him from jump.
First of all he told the congregation that his wife was
the spiritual leader of his household.Then he proceeded
to demonstrate that he speaks in tongues also.It was
horrible.The looks on faces on the platform was priceless.

A person who is sincere but just off can be dealt with gently.

But there are those who have an attention seeking attitude and who want to come rolling in and show everyone how "spiritual" they are.

That is another matter.

Embarassing someone who is sincere is never my intent.

Most of the time a church that is well taught and has some discernment will know immediately when the false comes forth.

Furthermore, it is often my practice when a prophecy or interpretation goes forth to say something after it comes to affirm to the church that this is a good word.

If I don't do that, but just move on to a chorus or ask everyone to pray, the absence of my affirmation speaks a lot to the saints if for some reason I feel not to publicly address the falsehood. We really have had very few instances of fake or out of order tongues, so it isn't a big problem.

If there was nothing in the message that would be harmful or divisive, I might just move the service on without affirming it in any way. The church would know I didn't feel good about it, but without embarassing a sincere but immature person.

As I said, attitude and motive make every situation different.

A lot of these "off" messages are so general and mild that the worst harm they do is creating a disruption and cheapening the gift in the minds and hearts of those who don't have enough maturity to recognize the human element and see beyond it.

But that is enough to make it worth teaching on and dealing with.

I was at an AFTERNOON camp meeting years ago and a woman stood up and started "Yea, this NIGHT the Lord would speak...".

That's as far as she got when the preacher said "Sit down and be quiet! You're out of order. God knows the difference between day and night".



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Back in Oklahoma once, a saint that was mad at the church and figured God was ready to pack up and leave it got up and said, "Yea, I will write Michelob over the door..."

I think she meant Ichabod, but nonetheless, there it was.:)

And then there was the guy who got up and said, "Yea, I ain't even in this place, saith the Lord."

:highfive Perfect! You never want to embarrass or hurt someone publically who might just be enthusiastic...if anything needs to be handled...the Pastor can handle it later in private.

There is a tactful way to start a chorus, and even say...I am glad they/he/she is worshipping the Lord why don't we all stand and worship the Lord as we sing this chorus...

Great Post Bro. CS!

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni,

The only way I handle those things in a public or abrasive manner is if the offender is a repeat problem, or has given out something that could be very confusing or harmful, or if it is a bold, audacious spirirt that wants to take over.

I attended a church once where the same person always felt led to give the interpretation and he always gave a similar "Jesus loves you" message. He wasn't harmful except that we would miss out on what God really wanted to tell us.

Ah yes, the duels. When my wife was a kid, there were two families in her church who would compete to see whose messages and interpretations could be the most impressive. They even planned them ahead, thinking up really spiritual sounding messages for the church. Tried to find out what the pastor would be preaching on, so it would "line up"!

The pastor had his hands full with that congregation, let me tell you! :lol

I agree. That kind of spirit is not of God and needs handled. I remember telling one such spirit to be silent...this is God's house and a house of prayer and you have no business here!:sshhh

Blessings, Rhoni

Great time to start singing, "Let My Words Be Few."

There are abuses on both sides. Saints who are sincere and are just "trying their wings" so to speak, need to be given some leeway so they aren't quashed in their fledgling trials.

Depending on the "message", I would sit them down if it was outright error and misleading, spiritually. If it was the generic "I love you and want to give you revival," and the same thing every time the person gives it, I would talk to them privately.

BUT IT MUST BE STOPPED if it is false. Otherwise a spirit can get into the church and things get really weird after time.

I'd say that is harmful...if you are missing out on what God REALLY wanted to say.

What about when the guy is on the mic???
I have a friend who ran a mission for homeless people.Well he and his wife invited me over to speak for a service the church there.There is a man
who posts his picture in one of the local large newspapers that he
has a gift of healing and people line up.Well this man looks as homeless
as they come.I could not believe it when I saw the picture.I don't mean
just hair and a beard but something very akin to mental health.Anyway
he happened to "drop by" when I spoke that night.Naturally since he is
a well known community figure the ministry asked him to say a few words for the Lord.I know they were hoping to win him over.Well that thing whatever he is possessed with walked staight over to where I was sitting next to the pastors young son.He kept saying in this totally shrill voice how Gods word
was a PRISM>>>>>>>all the colors of the rainbow could be seen in Gods word.He repeated that over and over and over.Finally my friend was able to politely get the mic from him.Later after services the pastors son kept teasing me with that ....all the colors thing.It was awful.Thank God for deliverance.
I know now what the man had.Back then it was just annoying but I am a former catholic and this man is catholic.There is a meeting that the men
go to called Decolores.Supposidly some of them receive the Holy Ghost there
and some had been said to go home nuts and need to immediatly go to mental health.Well I can see why if this was a product of it.My poor friend has tried and tried to reach this man.It amazes me that people flock to this mans meetings.Its like how they flock to Lourdes or Fatima.Oh well what do you do with people who will run to see an image on a screen door that they think
is God talking to them.I knew people who actually fell out and came to with messages for others in town from "Mary."

This is very close to echoing exactly what I would say on this subject. Intent would be the deciding factor for me. The folks at NLC are strong and savvy enough that even a "harmful" message in tongues wouldn't sway them.


I have only had to stop someone once and then I had him escorted out. It was a strong "trinitarian" who had been attending and I found out that he wanted to be pastor before I came. We had been going back and forth in private conversations on the godhead issue. He had basically been calling me a heretic for being oneness. I didn't even call him that. I just tried to love the guy and have patience with him. He didn't have a following so there was no real threat.

The Sunday after 9-11, he rose and gave a message that was pretty good until he got to the part where he said, "There is one thing you need to change yet, and that is the doctrine of Oneness..." When he got to that point, I felt like it was a spiritual terrorist attack and told our ushers to escort him out of the service.

The only reason I took such drastic action was due to him taking extreme advantage of my kindness and patience toward him. I certainly wouldn't let him preach or teach in any way so that was his only outlet to the congregation.

The rest of the story is that 2 yrs after that, (he left the church a few months later) he came to me to apologize in tears for what he had done and asked for my forgiveness!!!!!

I forgave him unconditionally and didn't mention how wrong it was for him to do what he did. His repentance, I felt, was genuine.