Baptized With Fire
 

Matthew, Chapter 3, 011: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire

Have you been baptized with fire?

No, you have not.

None of you have.

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But...you have, right?

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Don't have that revelation do you?

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None of you do.

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Wow... so you have the gift of revelation. How blessed we are to have you here on AFF.

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I have

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Explain to us the difference between the 2. If you can do this then I will ask you to explain to us what it is. And if you do not understand all of this I have just said then you have told us a lie.

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You can not read this out of a book and you will not be able to guess your way through it or make it up as you go. You will get caught if you try.

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Its the blessing of entire sanctification.

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The blessing of the entire sanctification to what?

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The baptism of fire is a reference to entire sanctification the removal of our adamic sinful nature.

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Did God tell you this?

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In a sense the Bible which is the infallible Word of God teaches this.

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How did it teach you this? Did you go through it step by step with the bible?

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If you mean did I study the doctrine out for myself from the old testament and the new testament in a logical order then yes.

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But you yourself have not gone through it? Is this right?

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No that is not correct. I have received the baptism of fir!

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When you get it you will understand it.

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Is that what happened to you?

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So you no longer have your sin nature? Is this right?

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Right because God removed it.

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This is why you don't understand...

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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And you have spiritually discerned that I do not understand the baptism of fire?

Is this right?

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Let me make sure I did not misunderstand you. You are telling me that Jesus baptized you with fire and that when Jesus did this, God removed all your sin nature.

Is this right?

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Yes at the point of entire sanctification (baptism of fire) which was an instantaneous second definite work of grace my simful nature was removed.

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It is not right. It's obvious that you don't understand it and it doesn't take discernment to see something so obvious

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Did Jesus ever have a sinful nature?

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What exactly is it that you see that is so obvious that, I do not understand about it?

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Jesus never had a sin nature and as I assume that I know where you are going I would first advise you look at the difference in the terms "sanctify" and "entire sanctification" also look at the different ways it is applied to different things.

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Was Jesus baptized by fire?

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As Jesus never had a sin nature He had no need for entire sanctification.

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So now it is not your nature to do no evil, to think no evil, to speak no evil? Is this right?

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True

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Would you tell God this?

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He told me to ask you this.

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If your going to go down in flames you mine as well go all the way.

lol

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Since God did the work of removing the carnal nature He already knows it gone.

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You need to take that up with him. Trying to convince me is a waste of your time.

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But I most certainly do appreciate your will to try. We do not have
to go no further.