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Congregation Appreciation Month
When is Congregation Appreciation Month? And will the pastor be buying everyone Sunday afternoon lunch and giving everyone cards and gifts in appreciation of their service and dedication to the house of God?
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Is this like employee of the month?
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One time the ministry was furious we wouldn't sit at head table during a Christmas banquet. Well, we had invited quests who ended up being elected as mayor of the town. How in the world does acting important minister to people? I doubt Mother Theresa looked for personal praise. We should take a lesson. |
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I'm waiting for Randy Appreciation Month. I have a feeling I will be waiting a very very long time. A long time......
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Yeah I've been missing Randy Wayne's humorous input these days.
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Yes, let's declare Rocktober Randy Wayne appreciation month... Lot's more fun then BC awareness... although some of those bumperstickers are right up your alley.:heeheehee |
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We do appreciate his professional photography! :thumbsup |
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I walked away saddened that they completely missed the point of ministry. |
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Oh Dante, didn't you know! There is a day to celebrate the saints.... it's called All Saints Day, celebrated on October 31...
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THANK YOU! Apostolicman, Give your pastor a pat on the back for me! Been Thinkin |
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Feel better? I know this is how it works, because I have worked as a church secretary, have family in the ministry, and I do not speak out of ignorance. Ask him for yourself if you don't believe me. LOL. |
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...when was the last time you took a whole congregation to dinner there buddy? Or anybody for that matter? I'm glad you had it so rough as a church secretary. Many of us that have been called one day to pastor and have worked and labored tirelessly in the ministry of reconciliation will understand why this statement is foolish at best. I've fixed vehicles free of charge, I've helped my past pastors repair and restore saints houses free of charge. I've watched my pastors scrub the church floors, cut saints lawns, etc. I've helped pay individuals rent. I've helped pay for gas. I've filled tanks of strangers while I was witnessing to them, bought them food, and prayed for them. I've watched the men of God who have trained me in the ministry do this. I wake up at 2 in the morning for saints who need random assistance. At the same time I'm expected to go to work, go to church on time, pay my bills on time, tithe, and keep a strong relationship with God and prayer life. I can't imagine being a pastor on top of all this. It's not a calling that any sane man should want, especially with people like yourself constantly attacking and accusing pastors, and I find what you said to be an attack, unwarranted on someone who I've watched grow old with a genuine burden for the souls he oversees and a man I respect and revere. The ministry is not "easy", nor is it "fun and games" and some of us spend our lives on reaching out to others trying to see God's plan of salvation fulfilled and people's lives changed. Now... what are you doing? |
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Thank you trialedbyfire. Couldn't have said it better myself. I know there have been men who have taken advantage of saints, churches, and people. But when you broad brush this subject there are a lot of Pastors who are unjustly accused and slandered! This just shouldn't be! What if I said every poster on AFF was just like Tangible! They have to be!!!! They're on the same forum as Tangible. That makes them just like Tangible! ..... Lord help me! with my righteous indignation. I hope it's righteous! Been Thinkin |
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Y'all have sure been going to a different church than me... I would bet my rock bottom dollar that my former pastor has probably never mowed his own lawn let alone anyone elses, LOL! I know he does not wash his own car... hired folks clean the church, and his wife has a maid although she does not have a job. As a matter of fact he can not even live in the same town as his church because it does not include a 'master planned community' like the one he lives in.
I am not slamming anyone but I am saying that one's experiences color how one sees things... and my experiences with the pastorate has not been one that makes me believe that most have a servants mentality but rather that most have a king's complex. Still I can see that it would be possible for some to be as you say and I am remembering to say my prayers for them this month. :) |
That pastor is in for a wake up call.
NEXT!!! |
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Thanks Titus2Woman. I believe you. I guess I just didn't pastor the right church. But, I'm happy to be real, to be human and not put myself up on a throne. I put my pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else. And I do wash my pickup on occasion...... wait, it's been a while. To easy to take it to the car wash. Wish you hadn't mentioned the yard work. Mine needs mowing and it looks like I'm gonna have to do it....(on my riding mower, of course), maybe tomorrow after I finish with a funeral service. One of these days, when fresh vegetables are coming in, I'm going to pm you and find out where your garden is and come and get me a hand full of tomatoes, with salt in the other hand, and just eat as many as you'll let me eat. Salt in one hand, tomato in the other, wipe off the tomato, take a small bite, then dip the tomato in the salt and have at it!!!! Mmmmmm. :thumbsup Been Thinkin |
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Here... :dogpat Seriously, I hear what you are saying, and I know that you probably have given 150% working in the ministry. :thumbsup My point was this... you are claiming that this pastor took these people out on his own dime, and I was just making the point that more than likely it wasn't his dime... it was the church's dime, or the IRS at some point was going to reimburse him for it. That was the point I was making... And... we are all called to minister to each other, and it shouldn't JUST be the pastor's job.... every single believer is called to minister to each other. Not just one man trying to minister to ... did you say 1500 people in that church? Yikes! So my point is... yes, I know that pastors like Been Thinkin, and perhaps the one you mention have given their all, 150% more than likely.... but what if they had stopped and realized that all the body of belivers were to minister to each other, and taught their congregants so... all of us ministering to the needs of each other.... truly that is the way the early church was set up. Read this passage where Paul was addressing this very issue: 1 Cor. 12 In particular this verse stands out in regards to this discussion: 1 Cor. 12:25-27 "That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. " |
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It's not about "dump on the pastor". It is about defining pastor duties scripturally and all the people share in the ministry instead of being the 20-30-40+ year old spiritual birth baby still sitting on the pew expecting the CEO of the corporate church system to tell him/her what to do....or what not to do so as not to bring reproach upon the church. I was told I could not share the word with people. I was told by the pastor (at that time) my job was to bring them to church so he can preach to them. How does one make somebody else go to church? If I am a born again believer filled with the Holy Ghost, why then am I not scripturally correct to share God's word with people? Must one be a pastor to share some scriptural verses with another? |
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You'll never understand until you're there. I won't bother to respond, I don't have a load that I expect you to carry. Christ has it, and while your criticizing these pastors many of use are just doing what God has told us to do and relying solely on his grace. |
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And I have never said that there weren't pastors out there doing wonderful things. I have never said that. I have said many times, that there are great, and wonderful men out there doing all they can for the kingdom. I don't have a problem with the men... I have a problem with the church system as a whole that has pagan roots all the way back to the RCC that sets one man up as higher than the rest of the congregation, which is unbiblical. Paul always wrote of ministry in the plural. All my original post did was to make the point that many times pastors do things for the congregation that are tax write offs. If a saint should do the same thing, it would literally come out of his pocket, for he has no 501-c3 set up. Yet, the pastor gets the credit for taking the whole group out to eat, and yet really the church paid for it, or the IRS reimbursed it. That's all. I was just challenging you to think about this point, and not trying to downgrade any of the work that you or any other pastor/minister is doing for the kingdom of Christ. God bless you, and I pray that the Lord will continue to bless the ministry he has called you to. |
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Don and I were laughing once on how a real tithe of our 'first fruits' would have been received if we'd brought it 'into the storehouse'... For some reason, known only to him, our pastor once said during a sermon that he would NEVER milk a cow when he can just get milk at Kroger... My husband was so insulted for me that he went up after service and said "If you tasted that fresh milk just once you'd milk a cow'... i thought they were both silly but sure enough the next service my husband carted an ice cold gallon of milk to the pastor... I'm sure they probably poured it down the sink... I never asked and they never said. Kind of the farm version of don't ask, don't tell ;) |
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Sounds like an offer BT shouldn't pass up!! I know I sure wouldn't, if I lived closer to you! As for the taste of raw milk versus the version you buy in the stores, there is no comparison! Richy, creamy, thick.... yummmo!
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Milk bought in the store is dead milk after pasteurizing to death (by law) all the beneficial enzymes the human race needs.
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Gotta know milk is from a healthy cow and very carefully handled before I want to drink it... That's why I do it myself :) |
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Sometimes when I'm reading a thread I have to go back to the top to see what the name of the original topic was .... just because we get so far off topic, and I just had to do that for this thread... :heeheehee
We were talking about.. let's see.... congregation appreciation month, and now we are talking about pasteurized versus raw milk.... Love the diversity that we can find here on AFF :chat :happydance :winkgrin Shall we show appreciation to the local pastor with a donation of a gallon of raw milk.... :killinme |
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