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Timmy 10-16-2012 04:53 PM

Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
http://www.kltv.com/story/19836219/j...sault-of-child

Timmy 10-16-2012 04:54 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
(If he doesn't already know Him, I mean. ;))

Cindy 10-16-2012 05:26 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Just makes me sick.

Cindy 10-16-2012 05:27 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
I would imagine someone in prison will introduce him to Jesus.

houston 10-16-2012 05:59 PM

He's gonna meet Hay-soos. That's no Jesus!

trialedbyfire 10-16-2012 07:30 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Who's going to tell the boy who was caught in this mess about Jesus?

Dante 10-16-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Is he worthy to know Jesus?

houston 10-16-2012 07:56 PM

Were any of us?

Dante 10-16-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1196431)
Were any of us?

Good question. Were we?

houston 10-16-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1196432)

Good question. Were we?

No.

Timmy 10-17-2012 08:12 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
If he isn't saved now, and doesn't get saved before he dies in prison, he will have been punished here on earth for a few decades and then forever after he dies. If he gets saved, he will be punished here on earth for a few decades and then be rewarded forever after he dies.

Which fate would you give him, if it were up to you? If you had the chance, would you share the gospel with him and lead him to Christ?

Timmy 10-17-2012 08:13 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1196424)
Who's going to tell the boy who was caught in this mess about Jesus?

Or his mother?

Timmy 10-17-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Don't all volunteer at once. ;)

KeptByTheWord 10-17-2012 03:59 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
What a sick, sick thing. Sounds like the woman was as perverted or more than the man, and she got off with much less time. Scares me to think that she'll be back on the streets in less than ten years.

Well, Timmy, you've got a good question.... I'm sure while they're in prison, they may be able to hear the gospel, and perhaps even accept the truth of the gospel... many do. I don't wish hell on anyone.

That poor little boy is the one who will really need Jesus to be able to recover from his psychological wounds, in hopes of having a normal life again. I will be praying for him too.

MawMaw 10-17-2012 04:06 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
No wonder Jesus said it would be better for
a millstone be hung around someone's neck
and they be thrown in the sea, that would
harm a child.

But, on the other hand, He does offer
forgiveness if true repentance is made.

I'm sure there is someone in the prison
he will be sent to, to tell him.

Timmy 10-17-2012 05:59 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
What if everybody thinks somebody else will do it? Ugh. I don't even want to think about what will happen that poor man if he doesn't get saved. (TIC!)

houston 10-17-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196816)
What if everybody thinks somebody else will do it? Ugh. I don't even want to think about what will happen that poor man if he doesn't get saved. (TIC!)

Well, if he's into casual sex then prison is the place for him.

Timmy 10-17-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1196818)
Well, if he's into casual sex then prison is the place for him.

And whether his final few decades in this life are horrible or heavenly, what about the first billion years after this life? And the next, and the next, and the next?

houston 10-17-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196826)

And whether his final few decades in this life are horrible or heavenly, what about the first billion years after this life? And the next, and the next, and the next?

You have no point, do you?

Timmy 10-17-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1196850)
You have no point, do you?

Really?

houston 10-17-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196866)

Really?

Yep.

Timmy 10-17-2012 10:31 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1196887)
Yep.

Do you believe that someone who dies without being saved (in whatever way you prefer) will be punished in torment forever, after they die?

AreYouReady? 10-17-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196889)
Do you believe that someone who dies without being saved (in whatever way you prefer) will be punished in torment forever, after they die?

Why isn't he saved? It's not like he hasn't heard. After all, there surely are plenty of churches in this country. Plenty of television preachers. Plenty of radio preachers. Unless...he just chooses not to believe.

Timmy 10-17-2012 10:40 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1196890)
Why isn't he saved? It's not like he hasn't heard. After all, there surely are plenty of churches in this country. Plenty of television preachers. Plenty of radio preachers. Unless...he just chooses not to believe.

Good point. So if he isn't saved, I guess he'll deserve his eternal punishment! Oh, but wait. We all deserve that. Even Christians. It's just that Christians aren't going to get what they deserve, and the rest of us will get what we deserve.

Right?

houston 10-17-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196889)

Do you believe that someone who dies without being saved (in whatever way you prefer) will be punished in torment forever, after they die?

Relevance?

MawMaw 10-18-2012 03:34 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196570)
If he isn't saved now, and doesn't get saved before he dies in prison, he will have been punished here on earth for a few decades and then forever after he dies. If he gets saved, he will be punished here on earth for a few decades and then be rewarded forever after he dies.

Which fate would you give him, if it were up to you? If you had the chance, would you share the gospel with him and lead him to Christ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196826)
And whether his final few decades in this life are horrible or heavenly, what about the first billion years after this life? And the next, and the next, and the next?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196889)
Do you believe that someone who dies without being saved (in whatever way you prefer) will be punished in torment forever, after they die?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196891)
Good point. So if he isn't saved, I guess he'll deserve his eternal punishment! Oh, but wait. We all deserve that. Even Christians. It's just that Christians aren't going to get what they deserve, and the rest of us will get what we deserve.

Right?

Timmy you seem to be overly concerned for what the hereafter holds
for a person. I think God is dealing with you! Give in! :nod

Timmy 10-18-2012 07:28 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1196932)
Timmy you seem to be overly concerned for what the hereafter holds
for a person. I think God is dealing with you! Give in! :nod

Overly concerned? :blink

(Of course, I'm not concerned at all for this guy's afterlife. Just poking and prodding you guys a bit. As usual. :heeheehee)

MawMaw 10-18-2012 08:09 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196961)
Overly concerned? :blink

(Of course, I'm not concerned at all for this guy's afterlife. Just poking and prodding you guys a bit. As usual. :heeheehee)

Yes, overly concerned for your own soul. :)

I think you are trying to hide behind all the joking
and prodding that you do.

Your soul knows better.

I hope you listen. :)

Timmy 10-18-2012 08:27 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1196971)
Yes, overly concerned for your own soul. :)

I think you are trying to hide behind all the joking
and prodding that you do.

Your soul knows better.

I hope you listen. :)

I do. ;)

houston 10-18-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1196971)

Yes, overly concerned for your own soul. :)

I think you are trying to hide behind all the joking
and prodding that you do.

Your soul knows better.

I hope you listen. :)

Huh?

Timmy 10-18-2012 09:26 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1196988)
Huh?

My soul is telling me to go back to Jesus.

AreYouReady? 10-18-2012 10:31 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1196891)
Good point. So if he isn't saved, I guess he'll deserve his eternal punishment! Oh, but wait. We all deserve that. Even Christians. It's just that Christians aren't going to get what they deserve, and the rest of us will get what we deserve.

Right?

I should have put my 'tic' at the end of the sentence. This man is not beyond Christ saving him, although what he did was heinous.

But since you answered, let me answer you.

We all will get what we deserve. God is the only one who knows actually what we deserve. We may think we deserve one thing and will end up getting another...on all sides of the spiritual spectrum. Just because we profess to be a believer doesn't always mean we have done the will of the Father.

Christ said that we must endure unto the end. We don't get rewards for just professing a belief in Him, then doing what we want.


And Timmy, I don't think you are just here to poke and prod at us. Perhaps you are here in hopes of that one nugget somebody may post that will reach your heart.

Timmy 10-18-2012 11:03 AM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1197008)
I should have put my 'tic' at the end of the sentence. This man is not beyond Christ saving him, although what he did was heinous.

But since you answered, let me answer you.

We all will get what we deserve. God is the only one who knows actually what we deserve. We may think we deserve one thing and will end up getting another...on all sides of the spiritual spectrum. Just because we profess to be a believer doesn't always mean we have done the will of the Father.

Christ said that we must endure unto the end. We don't get rewards for just professing a belief in Him, then doing what we want.


And Timmy, I don't think you are just here to poke and prod at us. Perhaps you are here in hopes of that one nugget somebody may post that will reach your heart.

TIC? Really?

Does God think some people actually deserve heaven? Most believers don't seem to think so. Grace, they say, is getting what you don't deserve.

Sam 10-18-2012 12:31 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1196428)
Is he worthy to know Jesus?

none of us are

Timmy 10-18-2012 12:40 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1197032)
none of us are

Then why would Jesus say your not worthy of Him if you don't love Him more than you love your family, or if you don't take up your cross and follow Him?

Sam 10-18-2012 12:44 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197020)
TIC? Really?

Does God think some people actually deserve heaven? Most believers don't seem to think so. Grace, they say, is getting what you don't deserve.

I don't think any of us deserve heaven. If we (myself included) get what we deserve we'll all be crispy critters.

That's why we call it "Amazing" Grace.



Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

T'was Grace that taught...
my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear...
the hour I first believed.

Through many dangers, toils and snares...
we have already come.
T'was Grace that brought us safe thus far...
and Grace will lead us home.

The Lord has promised good to me...
His word my hope secures.
He will my shield and portion be...
as long as life endures.

When we've been here ten thousand years...
bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise...
then when we've first begun.

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me....
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now, I see.

"Amazing Grace" is a Christian hymn with words written by the English poet and clergyman John Newton (1725–1807), published in 1779. Containing a message that forgiveness and redemption are possible regardless of sins committed and that the soul can be delivered from despair through the mercy of God, "Amazing Grace" is one of the most recognizable songs in the English-speaking world.

Newton wrote the words from personal experience. He grew up without any particular religious conviction, but his life's path was formed by a variety of twists and coincidences that were often put into motion by his recalcitrant insubordination. He was pressed into the Royal Navy, and after leaving the service became involved in the Atlantic slave trade. In 1748, a violent storm battered his vessel so severely that he called out to God for mercy, a moment that marked his spiritual conversion. However, he continued his slave trading career until 1754 or 1755, when he ended his seafaring altogether and began studying Christian theology.

Ordained in the Church of England in 1764, Newton became curate of Olney, Buckinghamshire, where he began to write hymns with poet William Cowper. "Amazing Grace" was written to illustrate a sermon on New Year's Day of 1773. It is unknown if there was any music accompanying the verses; it may have simply been chanted by the congregation. It debuted in print in 1779 in Newton and Cowper's Olney Hymns, but settled into relative obscurity in England. In the United States however, "Amazing Grace" was used extensively during the Second Great Awakening in the early 19th century. It has been associated with more than 20 melodies, but in 1835 it was joined to a tune named "New Britain" to which it is most frequently sung today.

Author Gilbert Chase writes that "Amazing Grace" is "without a doubt the most famous of all the folk hymns," and Jonathan Aitken, a Newton biographer, estimates that it is performed about 10 million times annually. It has had particular influence in folk music, and has become an emblematic African American spiritual. Its universal message has been a significant factor in its crossover into secular music. "Amazing Grace" saw a resurgence in popularity in the U.S. during the 1960s and has been recorded thousands of times during and since the 20th century, occasionally appearing on popular music charts. from Wikipedia

And there is a "new" version of Amazing Grace that I like also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbe7O...eature=related

KeptByTheWord 10-18-2012 06:59 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
This version of Amazing Grace by Chris Tomlin is indeed one of my favorites. Praise God for His grace that extends to all who are willing to accept its gift.

Timmy 10-18-2012 07:43 PM

Re: Who wants to tell this guy about Jesus?
 
Has anyone seen the Gene Scott version of Amazing Grace? :lol


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