DOMA has been declared unconstitutional
 

DOMA has been declared unconstitutional in a federal court

http://www.charismanews.com/us/34350...constitutional

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Are you against same sex marriage?

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Of course Sam is against gay marriage, he believes the Bible!

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Um, you gotta believe
"same sex marriage"
is an oxymoron?

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Gee what a surprise. The sad part is that this story won't motivate and mobilize Christians in NY to unseat the judge. Electing a gay judge, now that would be no problem...

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Should the laws of the country be the same as the Bible's laws?

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That's a good Q! Actually, I don't think that's even possible? We have examples...of failures.

There is a decent argument that that is how the Kingdom comes about; through societal evolution (I know, dirty word) into a country that follows the Bible, sans the religion. I forget the name of the doctrine.

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Dominionism?

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Is it? Sounds right. Yule know we're
getting closer when 'elections' are over-
-forever.

We have a couple other clues,
but being as how we would then be
discussing what Christians should really
be doing, and there aren't any drones, or
vicarious hating of other neighbors involved,
I'd then put the life of this thread at
about 2 more posts.

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I personally believe that living the homosexual life style is wrong according to the Bible. Some references in the NT would be:
Romans 1:18-32
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
1 Timothy 1:8-10
Jude 5, 7
Let's leave off the OT verses because we are not under the Law.

Not all Christians believe that homosexuality is wrong because they interpret certain passages differently than I do. Not everybody has chosen to live their lives according to the Bible.

Is it fair for me to impose my interpretation of certain Scriptural passages on others who do not understand them the same way I do or on those who have chosen to live their lives by some other rules than the Bible? If we deny gays and lesbians the right to marry, a whole segment of our population has been denied some rights based on gender.

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Very good answer Sam. My question was half tic/half serious. I personally believe that homosexuality is not God sanctioned and ordained.

I've been thinking a lot about Aquila's thread on marriage. It used to be that people did not have to apply for a marriage license (permission to marry) from the state. They went before God and asked their Pastor/Preacher or the Justice of the Peace to perform the ceremony.

Do we as Spirit-filled believers not object to the demands placed upon us by the state that we are ordered by law to obtain that marriage license for a legal marriage?

Legal marriage is mainly, some say, for the state to know who is cohabitating with who and how many children are born to them (hence birth certificates and SS# assigned to the child before they leave the hospital). They can look at SS #'s that match with marriage licenses and IRS tax filings.

Most of us know the difference between spiritual/scriptural God sanctioned marriage and legally binding state sanctioned marriage.

It is unfortunate that our country has lost it's morals, but we will have same-sex couples, many who spend their lifetime together, regardless of a marriage law or lack of a law for them. It has been this way for thousands of years. The gays and lesbians object to not having the same tax breaks for themselves as heterosexual couples have, because they likewise pay taxes and insurance. And now since we have healthcare mandates, they want their rights like the minorities and women wanted theirs. They want to be considered as next of kin. They are not looking at marriage as a spiritual union between a man and a woman, which incidentally, the dictionary defines a husband as being a man, and a wife being a woman.

Do I agree with this? No... but I also do not live this life. I also would not want to be under a religious law such as Sharia Law of the Muslim world. I supposed that our Constitutional Law provides for the freedom of choice.

We are merely looking at signs of the times, which Jesus said these things are going to happen. We are much closer to His return that any of us could ever realize.

If we say we love our fellow man and want to see the lost saved, we are seeing what Christ warned us about coming to pass and we really need to be praying for our country, our world that God would have mercy on us all. That God would save His creation from the grips of Satan and from destruction.

Luke 17
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

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A marriage is a deeply personal and private thing. I believe that two citizens should have the right to marry anyone they choose (right or wrong). If "biblical law" were applied... many divorcees wouldn't be permitted to remarry.

I think we should stop wasting our time trying to deny people rights in a "free country" and focus on preaching the Gospel.

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I'm starting to believe that the "State" should have little to do with defining "marriage". It should be a private arrangement.

In my mind... a straight couple without a "legal marriage" who have committed to themselves before God is more "married" (in the eyes of God) than half the "marriages" that the state recognizes.