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Praxeas 10-22-2012 01:01 AM

Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Parents of students attending a New York Catholic school are angry that a former police officer
who served more than a decade in jail for killing a family of four in a drunken driving incident is now working at the school.

According to the paper, the pastor of St. Clare’s and the school’s principal wrote a letter to parents announcing the hiring of Gray.

It continues, "Since the legal system is satisfied with Mr. Gray’s return to work,
we believe he should be given the opportunity to do so, since ours is a faith of forgiveness and mercy."

The hiring didn’t sit well with a number of parents, who called the Advance to vent
their concerns about their children’s safety. They wouldn’t give their names.


“Who’s to say he’s not going to act out?” said one parent. “We don’t know what he’s capable of doing. ...
We can be merciful toward him, but I do believe that it’s a bad move to put him around children, especially small children.”


ground000 10-22-2012 05:21 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Hmmmmm, I'm not sure. I think that they don't tell the whole story in the paper. Such as, what was he dealing with? Was he depressed when he went on this spree? Considering he was a cop, there's a good chance I think.

I think one would have to look at circumstances first, before judging. :D

bbyrd009 10-22-2012 08:10 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Yup. Brings up another good point, which is that those kids are around
more heinous sinners every day, and the sins more closely connected
with children. I know of a 44 year old Cath school teacher, very sweet
lady, way oversexed, just divorced, dating a 22 year old.

God does not need your help to do His job,
and HE forgave the guy 10 years ago.
What, you're afraid he's gonna run over
your kids?

Timmy 10-22-2012 08:12 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1197737)
Yup. Brings up another good point, which is that those kids are around
more heinous sinners every day, and the sins more closely connected
with children. I know of a 44 year old Cath school teacher, very sweet
lady, way oversexed, just divorced, dating a 22 year old.

God does not need your help to do His job,
and HE forgave the guy 10 years ago.
What, you're afraid he's gonna run over
your kids?

What is God's job, in this context?

MissBrattified 10-22-2012 11:41 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
I don't think his drunken driving incident has anything to do with his ability to work in the vicinity of children.

If he is still drinking, that's another story.

Cindy 10-22-2012 12:30 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
As long as he is not drinking or drunk on the job.

AreYouReady? 10-22-2012 01:03 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
He is hired as a janitor.

I don't see a problem as long as the school closely monitors him.

CC1 10-22-2012 02:50 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1197776)
I don't think his drunken driving incident has anything to do with his ability to work in the vicinity of children.

If he is still drinking, that's another story.

Bingo! No need for me to post as the Brat has hit the nail on the head once again.

Praxeas 10-22-2012 03:35 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1197803)
He is hired as a janitor.

I don't see a problem as long as the school closely monitors him.

Monitors him in case what?

houston 10-22-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1197837)
Monitors him in case what?

Drunk sweeping???

houston 10-22-2012 04:17 PM

This is stupid. He's not a sex offender.

freeatlast 10-22-2012 04:43 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
I work in rehab with men that have done all manner of crimes thru www.the180zone.org

I hope that people will give these men another chance in life. God did, why shouldn't we.

Norman 10-22-2012 05:41 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
As long as he is not driving a school bus, I don't see a problem.

bbyrd009 10-22-2012 06:45 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197739)
What is God's job, in this context?

Judging him, I guess;
when "janitor" becomes
"trust this man with your kids?"

KeptByTheWord 10-22-2012 08:18 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
If the man was a sexual offender, I can see that there was good reason the parents should be concerned. Not knowing all the circumstances of the story, hopefully he is a man trying to get his life back on track after a terrible mistake, and that the school has more insight into his situation than the parents. If the parents are so concerned, they should first have talked to the school officials about it, and perhaps getting more pertinent information rather than going to the media.

Evang.Benincasa 10-22-2012 08:51 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1197803)
He is hired as a janitor.

I don't see a problem as long as the school closely monitors him.

How about fitting the guy with high voltage electroshock collar?

AreYouReady? 10-22-2012 09:27 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1197902)
How about fitting the guy with high voltage electroshock collar?

Awww come on brother ben...you are going to the extreme. :heeheehee

By closely monitoring, I mean that he has very little contact with the children. He knows that there are parents who object to him being there so he should protect himself and not find himself alone with any child lest he be accused of something.

I believe in restoration and second chances.

MissBrattified 10-22-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1197902)
How about fitting the guy with high voltage electroshock collar?

Really? Or are you being TIC?

Timmy 10-23-2012 07:32 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1197877)
Judging him, I guess;
when "janitor" becomes
"trust this man with your kids?"

I see. Does God ever need our help? Should we not even care who hangs around our kids' schools and daycares? Not addressing this issue specifically, but other situations mainly, such as repeat sex offenders. Is it God's job to screen our baby sitters?

Timmy 10-23-2012 07:32 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1197921)
Really? Or are you being TIC?

You never know, with EB. :lol

Evang.Benincasa 10-23-2012 07:38 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197990)
You never know, with EB. :lol

:highfive

Timmy 10-23-2012 08:57 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1197996)
:highfive

EB, you're OK. Despite being wrong about nearly everything. :heeheehee You're OK. I'd have coffee with you any day. :thumbsup

houston 10-23-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1198037)

EB, you're OK. Despite being wrong about nearly everything. :heeheehee You're OK. I'd have coffee with you any day. :thumbsup

I wouldn't. He talks too much. Can't get a word in.

Timmy 10-23-2012 09:05 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1198040)
I wouldn't. He talks too much. Can't get a word in.

:heeheehee

bbyrd009 10-23-2012 10:27 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1197989)
I see. Does God ever need our help? Should we not even care who hangs around our kids' schools and daycares? Not addressing this issue specifically, but other situations mainly, such as repeat sex offenders. Is it God's job to screen our baby sitters?

Hmm, more good Qs. Obv we know that no one can "help God," as in "help God protect Mr. A," but at the same time common sense is advised "fools rush in..."

Timmy 10-23-2012 10:32 AM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1198064)
Hmm, more good Qs. Obv we know that no one can "help God," as in "help God protect Mr. A," but at the same time common sense is advised "fools rush in..."

Isn't it "helping" God when you do what He wants you to do? Doing His will? Obeying Him? Spreading the gospel? (Or don't you believe in that?)

Ferd 10-23-2012 12:57 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1197776)
I don't think his drunken driving incident has anything to do with his ability to work in the vicinity of children.

If he is still drinking, that's another story.



Once again MissBrattified kills a discussion before it begins with her perfect logic and susinct delivery.

Titus2woman 10-23-2012 01:22 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1198103)
Once again MissBrattified kills a discussion before it begins with her perfect logic and susinct delivery.

Exactly.

And gosh am I the only one here who has ever driven drunk? I have to think that but for the grace of God, go I... If he has paid his debt let's let him live in peace.

houston 10-23-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1198103)

susinct

What?

MissBrattified 10-23-2012 02:50 PM

Re: Could you trust this man with your kids?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1198103)
Once again MissBrattified kills a discussion before it begins with her perfect logic and susinct delivery.

LOL!!! Thanks Ferd--I think! :D :heeheehee

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