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Dedicated Mind 10-25-2012 12:50 PM

!!!!!!!Colin Powell Endorses OBAMA !!!!!!!!
 
IT'S OVER FOLKS. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2011162.html

deacon blues 10-25-2012 12:51 PM

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Let's see...that will matter for about, um... One vote

Cindy 10-25-2012 01:03 PM

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I don't think many Dems are fans of him. But, maybe it will help, who knows?

StillStanding 10-25-2012 01:47 PM

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IMO, Colin Powell should have been our first black president! I admire the guy, but don't give a hoot who he endorses. At least I give his opinion more weight that the Hollywood libtards!

MawMaw 10-25-2012 02:12 PM

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I like Mr Powell and have NO idea why he would vote for O,
but, it's not gonna help O any that he gets that one vote. :)

Praxeas 10-25-2012 02:36 PM

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Just goes to show even Colin Powell is partial and political. This means nothing to me and does not make me want to vote for Obama

Aquila 10-25-2012 02:42 PM

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If more people understood that 17 out of the 24 foreign policy advisors working for Romney worked for the Bush Administration... they'd understand this message loud and clear.

Colin Powell's open endosement of Obama is a desperate call to the American people to realize that the same Rightwing fascists that pushed Bush to drive us into an unnecessary war in Iraq are behind Romney... and will drive us into an unnecessary war with Iran. Understand... they lied to Powell and got him to sell their idea to the international community. He feels an obligation to speak out and as a result hopefully stop them.

This is a call to action. But most Americans are too stupid to see it.

Light 10-25-2012 02:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1198612)
If more people understood that 17 out of the 24 foreign policy advisors working for Romney worked for the Bush Administration... they'd understand this message loud and clear.

Colin Powell's open endosement of Obama is a desperate call to the American people to realize that the same Rightwing fascists that pushed Bush to drive us into an unnecessary war in Iraq are behind Romney... and will drive us into an unnecessary war with Iran. Understand... they lied to Powell and got him to sell their idea to the international community. He feels an obligation to speak out and as a result hopefully stop them.

This is a call to action. But most Americans are too stupid to see it.

So True, So True

Praxeas 10-25-2012 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1198612)
If more people understood that 17 out of the 24 foreign policy advisors working for Romney worked for the Bush Administration... they'd understand this message loud and clear.

Colin Powell's open endosement of Obama is a desperate call to the American people to realize that the same Rightwing fascists that pushed Bush to drive us into an unnecessary war in Iraq are behind Romney... and will drive us into an unnecessary war with Iran. Understand... they lied to Powell and got him to sell their idea to the international community. He feels an obligation to speak out and as a result hopefully stop them.

This is a call to action. But most Americans are too stupid to see it.

Oh baloney. I don't believe for a second CP was in the dark. And foreign policy has been a thorn in Obama's side too.

The Democrats also saw the same evidence Bush had. from our intelligence community and they signed off on the war as did CP

MissBrattified 10-25-2012 03:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1198612)
If more people understood that 17 out of the 24 foreign policy advisors working for Romney worked for the Bush Administration... they'd understand this message loud and clear.

Colin Powell's open endosement of Obama is a desperate call to the American people to realize that the same Rightwing fascists that pushed Bush to drive us into an unnecessary war in Iraq are behind Romney... and will drive us into an unnecessary war with Iran. Understand... they lied to Powell and got him to sell their idea to the international community. He feels an obligation to speak out and as a result hopefully stop them.

This is a call to action. But most Americans are too stupid to see it.

Nice. So anyone who doesn't align themselves with Powell is stupid.

Charnock 10-25-2012 03:23 PM

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Old news. Powell endorsed Obama in 2008, too.

scotty 10-25-2012 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198617)
Oh baloney. I don't believe for a second CP was in the dark. And foreign policy has been a thorn in Obama's side too.

The Democrats also saw the same evidence Bush had. from our intelligence community and they signed off on the war as did CP


Yep, this is nothing more than a disgruntled ex-republican.

Monterrey 10-25-2012 03:39 PM

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Tis all about skin color, folks!

Truthseeker 10-25-2012 06:22 PM

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Its a race thinkg.

LOVE JESUS 10-25-2012 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1198657)
Its a race thinkg.

Amen on that...

Praxeas 10-25-2012 06:42 PM

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Is CP a RINO?:

houston 10-25-2012 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198662)
Is CP a RINO?:

Yep

Jermyn Davidson 10-25-2012 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198617)
Oh baloney. I don't believe for a second CP was in the dark. And foreign policy has been a thorn in Obama's side too.

The Democrats also saw the same evidence Bush had. from our intelligence community and they signed off on the war as did CP

It's not baloney.
There were things that the Bush Administration kept Powell in the dark on.

Foreign policy a thorn in Obama's side?
Minus the Libya tragedy, I don't see where anything has been mishandled.

The African guy that said so much about Hussein and what he had, and his plans, etc was lying and Cheney had been told that he was not a good source. Cheney withheld that information from most involved in the Iraq War decision-making process.


Since the Iraq War, Powell has been anything but gung-ho for anyone connected to the Iraq War "back-room" decision makers.

Jermyn Davidson 10-25-2012 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1198657)
Its a race thinkg.

No it isn't.

You haven't done hardly anything compared to the proud and honorable service that man has offered our country, and you spread that libelous garbage about him.

I can almost guarantee that he was serving our country when you were a child. I say this because he was serving our country YEARS before I was even born and I am over 30 years old and from reading your past posts, I once considered you older than me and wiser than what your post displays.

You don't rate to even type CP's initials on your keyboard!

Your monicker says truthseeker, but you come on here with that garbage and we are supposed to just nod our head in agreement. No way!

You're no truthseeker-- you're a limbaugh manure spreader not willing to think on your own as to WHY such a man who has offered so much in service to our country for so many years, in the military and as a LOYAL team member for many REPUBLICAN leaders would decide to PUBLICLY DECLARE his support for the Democrat.


Read Aquilla's post and seek the truth out on that post. Then come back with a knowledgeable opinion instead of playing a lazy mental mind game with yourself as YOU pull the race card.

Not everyone who is white who votes for Romney is doing it because he is white, but every prominent black person who votes for Obama is doing so because he or she is black?

I think your post is :trashcan

You can't read CP's mind. If his CONSISTENT past is any reflection of the future, then maybe you should think twice before placing that cloak on a man whose service to America is matched by only a few, and definitely not you.

Jermyn Davidson 10-25-2012 07:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1198624)
Tis all about skin color, folks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS (Post 1198658)
Amen on that...

Your posts make you look like mental midgets.

tstew 10-25-2012 10:46 PM

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You play a dangerous game when you arbitrarily dismiss Powell's endorsement as being because he is black. I hear people here and in other places constantly criticize people who accuse them of opposing President Obama simply because of his race. I personally choose to believe them when they give the reasons they actually oppose the President. However, I think you become guilty of the reverse when you dismiss the reasons Colin Powell actually gives for his endorsement and summarily attribute it to race. You are doing the mirror image of what you do not want done to you, and you fail to realize it. Much like you have given legitimate reasons that you oppose the President that have nothing to do with race, Powell has given reasons that he support him that have nothing to do with race. We all have the right to argue the merits of his reasons, but I don't think we have the right to dismiss them altogether and ascribe our own.

Take a look at some of what he actually said:

When he took over, the country was in very very difficult straits. We were in the one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression. The fiscal system was collapsing. Wall Street was in chaos, we had 800,000 jobs lost in that first month of the Obama administration and unemployment peaked a few months later at 10 percent. So we were in real trouble. The auto industry was collapsing, the housing was start[ing] to collapse and we were in very difficult straits. And I saw over the next several years, stabilization come back in the financial community, housing is now starting to pick up after four years, it's starting to pick up. Consumer confidence is rising."

Summarizing the past four years under Obama, Powell said "Generally we've come out of the dive and we're starting to gain altitude." He acknowledged that problems remain, saying "The unemployment rate is too high, people are still hurting in housing but I see that we're starting to rise up."

Turning to foreign policy, Powell said he saw "the president get us of one war, start to get us out of a second war and did not get us into any new wars. And finally I think that the actions he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very very solid. And so, I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on."

Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

"One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

Powell said that he did not give either candidate early notice of his endorsement, but that he has "the utmost respect for" and spoke to Gov. Romney several weeks ago, and speaks to President Obama regularly.
He added that with this endorsement, he "signed on for a long patrol with President Obama" and that he feels more comfortable with Obama's stances on climate change, immigration, and education.

Powell also criticized congressional leaders for not living up to their responsibilities, mainly around resolving the approaching fiscal cliff.

"The major problem faced either by Gov. Romney or President Obama, whoever wins the election, is going to be what to do about the fiscal cliff we're about to fly over," Powell said.

"This is something that was put in place by Congress and while we're talking about the two candidates for president let's not forget that Congress bears a lot of responsibility for many of the problems that we have now. They're the ones that write the appropriations bills. They're the ones that pass the legislation for more spending and for the various entitlement programs that people have trouble with."

Praxeas 10-26-2012 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1198668)
It's not baloney.
There were things that the Bush Administration kept Powell in the dark on.

Please tell us what and then prove it.

Quote:

The African guy that said so much about Hussein and what he had, and his plans, etc was lying and Cheney had been told that he was not a good source. Cheney withheld that information from most involved in the Iraq War decision-making process.
So only Cheney knew this fact and did not tell CP? And what is the source for this?

Quote:

Since the Iraq War, Powell has been anything but gung-ho for anyone connected to the Iraq War "back-room" decision makers.
Nobody said he was

Praxeas 10-26-2012 12:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 1198708)
You play a dangerous game when you arbitrarily dismiss Powell's endorsement as being because he is black. I hear people here and in other places constantly criticize people who accuse them of opposing President Obama simply because of his race. I personally choose to believe them when they give the reasons they actually oppose the President. However, I think you become guilty of the reverse when you dismiss the reasons Colin Powell actually gives for his endorsement and summarily attribute it to race. You are doing the mirror image of what you do not want done to you, and you fail to realize it. Much like you have given legitimate reasons that you oppose the President that have nothing to do with race, Powell has given reasons that he support him that have nothing to do with race. We all have the right to argue the merits of his reasons, but I don't think we have the right to dismiss them altogether and ascribe our own.

Take a look at some of what he actually said:

When he took over, the country was in very very difficult straits. We were in the one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression. The fiscal system was collapsing. Wall Street was in chaos, we had 800,000 jobs lost in that first month of the Obama administration and unemployment peaked a few months later at 10 percent. So we were in real trouble. The auto industry was collapsing, the housing was start[ing] to collapse and we were in very difficult straits. And I saw over the next several years, stabilization come back in the financial community, housing is now starting to pick up after four years, it's starting to pick up. Consumer confidence is rising."

Summarizing the past four years under Obama, Powell said "Generally we've come out of the dive and we're starting to gain altitude." He acknowledged that problems remain, saying "The unemployment rate is too high, people are still hurting in housing but I see that we're starting to rise up."

Turning to foreign policy, Powell said he saw "the president get us of one war, start to get us out of a second war and did not get us into any new wars. And finally I think that the actions he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very very solid. And so, I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on."

Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

"One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

Powell said that he did not give either candidate early notice of his endorsement, but that he has "the utmost respect for" and spoke to Gov. Romney several weeks ago, and speaks to President Obama regularly.
He added that with this endorsement, he "signed on for a long patrol with President Obama" and that he feels more comfortable with Obama's stances on climate change, immigration, and education.

Powell also criticized congressional leaders for not living up to their responsibilities, mainly around resolving the approaching fiscal cliff.

"The major problem faced either by Gov. Romney or President Obama, whoever wins the election, is going to be what to do about the fiscal cliff we're about to fly over," Powell said.

"This is something that was put in place by Congress and while we're talking about the two candidates for president let's not forget that Congress bears a lot of responsibility for many of the problems that we have now. They're the ones that write the appropriations bills. They're the ones that pass the legislation for more spending and for the various entitlement programs that people have trouble with."

Nobody dismissed what Powell said because Powell is a black man.

Short of Jesus Christ Himself coming down and giving the thumbs up to Obama, no endorsement really means much to many

Praxeas 10-26-2012 12:05 AM

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BTW Obama keeps saying the economy is improving....so I guess the Bush tax cuts had nothing to do with the economy, right?

tstew 10-26-2012 04:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198718)
Nobody dismissed what Powell said because Powell is a black man.

Short of Jesus Christ Himself coming down and giving the thumbs up to Obama, no endorsement really means much to many

I'm sorry, but when you completely ignore his fairly consistent stated reasonings and blatantly assert that he is ONLY doing it because he is black and that it is all about skin color, that is exactly what you are doing. In fact, dismissal is the perfect word. I think we all agree that it is wrong and counter-productive when it is done to a white American, and this is simply a counter image of that.
I believe that is clear...and by now you know my role here is to bring just a bit of clarity and objectivity to the political homogeneity that is Political Talk on AFF :)

And as for the bolded, I wish all of my facebook friends would recognize this...

Truthseeker 10-26-2012 05:52 AM

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Interesing after decades of supporting and working for repubs I find it odd he swicthes at same time Obama comes along. Not buying it. He even got emotional and shed a tear when Obama was elected.

crakjak 10-26-2012 06:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 1198708)
You play a dangerous game when you arbitrarily dismiss Powell's endorsement as being because he is black. I hear people here and in other places constantly criticize people who accuse them of opposing President Obama simply because of his race. I personally choose to believe them when they give the reasons they actually oppose the President. However, I think you become guilty of the reverse when you dismiss the reasons Colin Powell actually gives for his endorsement and summarily attribute it to race. You are doing the mirror image of what you do not want done to you, and you fail to realize it. Much like you have given legitimate reasons that you oppose the President that have nothing to do with race, Powell has given reasons that he support him that have nothing to do with race. We all have the right to argue the merits of his reasons, but I don't think we have the right to dismiss them altogether and ascribe our own.

Take a look at some of what he actually said:

When he took over, the country was in very very difficult straits. We were in the one of the worst recessions we had seen in recent times, close to a depression. The fiscal system was collapsing. Wall Street was in chaos, we had 800,000 jobs lost in that first month of the Obama administration and unemployment peaked a few months later at 10 percent. So we were in real trouble. The auto industry was collapsing, the housing was start[ing] to collapse and we were in very difficult straits. And I saw over the next several years, stabilization come back in the financial community, housing is now starting to pick up after four years, it's starting to pick up. Consumer confidence is rising."

Summarizing the past four years under Obama, Powell said "Generally we've come out of the dive and we're starting to gain altitude." He acknowledged that problems remain, saying "The unemployment rate is too high, people are still hurting in housing but I see that we're starting to rise up."

Turning to foreign policy, Powell said he saw "the president get us of one war, start to get us out of a second war and did not get us into any new wars. And finally I think that the actions he has taken with respect to protecting us from terrorism have been very very solid. And so, I think we ought to keep on the track that we are on."

Powell expressed his concern about Republican candidate Mitt Romney's changing positions on international affairs. "The governor who was saying things at the debate on Monday night ... was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier. I'm not quite sure which Gov. Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy."

"One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal, same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern ... is that sometimes I don't sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have."

Powell also said that he has given close consideration to Romney's domestic policies. "As I listen to what his proposals are especially with respect to dealing with respect to our most significant issue, the economy, it's essentially let's cut taxes and compensate for that with other things but that compensation does not cover all of the cuts intended or the new expenses associated with defense."

Powell said that he did not give either candidate early notice of his endorsement, but that he has "the utmost respect for" and spoke to Gov. Romney several weeks ago, and speaks to President Obama regularly.
He added that with this endorsement, he "signed on for a long patrol with President Obama" and that he feels more comfortable with Obama's stances on climate change, immigration, and education.

Powell also criticized congressional leaders for not living up to their responsibilities, mainly around resolving the approaching fiscal cliff.

"The major problem faced either by Gov. Romney or President Obama, whoever wins the election, is going to be what to do about the fiscal cliff we're about to fly over," Powell said.

"This is something that was put in place by Congress and while we're talking about the two candidates for president let's not forget that Congress bears a lot of responsibility for many of the problems that we have now. They're the ones that write the appropriations bills. They're the ones that pass the legislation for more spending and for the various entitlement programs that people have trouble with."

Colin Powell is a man that rode the horse available to him to the top. When it got hot he caved to the liberal critics, instead of standing up for what he saw and believed to be true. Now he has just adopted the liberal talking points, is this a man that has no personal conviction and just rides whatever horse is available???? I use to respect the man, I now am just watching to see if he finds himself.

tstew 10-26-2012 06:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1198732)
Colin Powell is a man that rode the horse available to him to the top. When it got hot he caved to the liberal critics, instead of standing up for what he saw and believed to be true. Now he has just adopted the liberal talking points, is this a man that has no personal conviction and just rides whatever horse is available???? I use to respect the man, I now am just watching to see if he finds himself.

I can accept that as a fairly reasonable critique and expression of your reaction to what he actually says. My point is that we all deserve that and not a arbitrary dismissal of what we say. In my opinion, Powell has always been a bit left of the GOP on a number of social and other issues. I feel that his growing disagreement with our handling of global issues pushed him even further away over time.

tstew 10-26-2012 06:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1198730)
Interesing after decades of supporting and working for repubs I find it odd he swicthes at same time Obama comes along. Not buying it. He even got emotional and shed a tear when Obama was elected.

Do you not think any of his stated reasons have any merit?

Like I said in my previous post... In my opinion, Powell has always been a bit left of the GOP on a number of social and other issues. I feel that his growing disagreement with our handling of global issues pushed him even further away over time.

The dangerous game is that you begin to mirror those who say they have never heard such vitriol, hysteria, and disrespect for the President from some people...so it must ultimately be simply because of his race and not the reasons they state.

Aquila 10-26-2012 06:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1198668)
It's not baloney.
There were things that the Bush Administration kept Powell in the dark on.

Foreign policy a thorn in Obama's side?
Minus the Libya tragedy, I don't see where anything has been mishandled.

The African guy that said so much about Hussein and what he had, and his plans, etc was lying and Cheney had been told that he was not a good source. Cheney withheld that information from most involved in the Iraq War decision-making process.


Since the Iraq War, Powell has been anything but gung-ho for anyone connected to the Iraq War "back-room" decision makers.

Prax will never see any of the truth in this. He bleeds Republican. He bleeds Republican and dreams in GOP. lol

Aquila 10-26-2012 06:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1198674)
No it isn't.

You haven't done hardly anything compared to the proud and honorable service that man has offered our country, and you spread that libelous garbage about him.

I can almost guarantee that he was serving our country when you were a child. I say this because he was serving our country YEARS before I was even born and I am over 30 years old and from reading your past posts, I once considered you older than me and wiser than what your post displays.

You don't rate to even type CP's initials on your keyboard!

Your monicker says truthseeker, but you come on here with that garbage and we are supposed to just nod our head in agreement. No way!

You're no truthseeker-- you're a limbaugh manure spreader not willing to think on your own as to WHY such a man who has offered so much in service to our country for so many years, in the military and as a LOYAL team member for many REPUBLICAN leaders would decide to PUBLICLY DECLARE his support for the Democrat.


Read Aquilla's post and seek the truth out on that post. Then come back with a knowledgeable opinion instead of playing a lazy mental mind game with yourself as YOU pull the race card.

Not everyone who is white who votes for Romney is doing it because he is white, but every prominent black person who votes for Obama is doing so because he or she is black?

I think your post is :trashcan

You can't read CP's mind. If his CONSISTENT past is any reflection of the future, then maybe you should think twice before placing that cloak on a man whose service to America is matched by only a few, and definitely not you.

They'll refuse to see it. Powell is sworn to defend this nation. And he's still trying to... but people just want to discredit him for their own party's gain.

Aquila 10-26-2012 06:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198718)
Nobody dismissed what Powell said because Powell is a black man.

Short of Jesus Christ Himself coming down and giving the thumbs up to Obama, no endorsement really means much to many

Don't lie. You'd say that Jesus was an "imposter". lol

Nothing can get you to see or take pause with regards to voting Republican. I'm willing to bet that you don't like Romney... but Romney is the only "R" so you've got his back... even though you've not really taken an unbiased look at the whole mess.

But facts are facts. You know, nearly 12 years of Republican economic policies quadrupled the debt. Then Clinton got into office and balanced the budget with the help of Congress (great leadership on both sides, thumbs up America). Then Bush got into office, and after 8 years of Republican polices the debt doubled. Now, Obama hasn't recovered as well as Clinton did, because admittedly Obama is a big spender... but at least Obama has almost stopped the bleeding and the nation is stablizing.

It's interesting... if someone hears these facts they say they are lies. Tell them to fact check with the Congressional Budget Office, they'll accuse the CBO of lying! ROFL!!! They live in a false reality detatched from the rest of us in the real world. LOL

Aquila 10-26-2012 07:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1198719)
BTW Obama keeps saying the economy is improving....so I guess the Bush tax cuts had nothing to do with the economy, right?

With the BILLIONS Bush's tax cuts saved corporate and wealthy America.... there should have been a tidal wave of them there "trickle down jobs". Get real.

We'd not be in this mess if Bush didn't use the use America to provide a giveaway of windfal profits for corporate America... and you know it... you just don't have the guts to admit it openly. ;)

Aquila 10-26-2012 07:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tstew (Post 1198729)
I'm sorry, but when you completely ignore his fairly consistent stated reasonings and blatantly assert that he is ONLY doing it because he is black and that it is all about skin color, that is exactly what you are doing. In fact, dismissal is the perfect word. I think we all agree that it is wrong and counter-productive when it is done to a white American, and this is simply a counter image of that.
I believe that is clear...and by now you know my role here is to bring just a bit of clarity and objectivity to the political homogeneity that is Political Talk on AFF :)

And as for the bolded, I wish all of my facebook friends would recognize this...

:thumbsup

tstew 10-26-2012 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1198732)
Colin Powell is a man that rode the horse available to him to the top. When it got hot he caved to the liberal critics, instead of standing up for what he saw and believed to be true. Now he has just adopted the liberal talking points, is this a man that has no personal conviction and just rides whatever horse is available???? I use to respect the man, I now am just watching to see if he finds himself.

You know what? I have to come back and address this. Powell is a man who I respect as a man and as one who has served this nation. Suggesting that he is a man who simply rode the available horse to the top is pretty disrespectful and inaccurate IMO. At times, he was carrying quite a bit of the load himself.

You can rest assured that when a Secretary of State "resigns" at the height of his popularity, there are some things going on behind closed doors. I suggest you go back and read some of the glimpses people have given into the inner workings that led to his growing disagreements with our foreign policy and the direction the GOP were leading at the time. From what I've seen, he was regularly at odds with Cheney and Rumsfeld and was deeply disturbed by what was being done.

He has not violated confidentiality and told all, but there is plenty there to be seen from various accounts. As one who is absolutely opposed to blind partisanship, I strongly disagree with any implication that one should not change their support once they no longer fundamentally agree with a party's platform or agenda. This way of thought is a huge problem in our political system IMO. Many see his change as precisely "standing up for what he saw and believed to be true".

Cindy 10-26-2012 07:11 AM

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If he talks to Obama regularly, Obama should have him on the payroll.

tstew 10-26-2012 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1198745)
If he talks to Obama regularly, Obama should have him on the payroll.

I agree. Personally, I would love to have Powell very involved in our global and military decision making regardless of who the President is.

Cindy 10-26-2012 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 1198746)
I agree. Personally, I would love to have Powell very involved in our global and military decision making regardless of who the President is.

:thumbsup

Aquila 10-26-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1198730)
Interesing after decades of supporting and working for repubs I find it odd he swicthes at same time Obama comes along. Not buying it. He even got emotional and shed a tear when Obama was elected.

Powell has always been a level headed moderate among salivating Republican Neocon fantatics. It makes perfect sense that he'd break from the pack. Who would would want to be associated with neocon warmongers???

Cindy 10-26-2012 07:23 AM

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I find it weird that people say war is good for the economy. Does that make it all about money?


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