NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hurr...rical-workers/



It almost sounds too outrageous to be true, and yet it is not.
Hurricane Devastated NJ Town Rejects Non Union Alabama Electrical Workers

This aerial photo shows the destroyed homes left in the wake of superstorm Sandy on Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2012, in Seaside Heights, N.J.Credit: AP

With millions still struggling to get power in the wake of Hurricane Sandy, non-union work crews from Alabama have been turned away by New Jersey. The reason? Their non-union status.

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Have you posted a falsehood ??


http://nj1015.com/report-non-union-a...om-new-jersey/

Nope.

Workers from one of three Alabama utilities, touted by Governor Christie as coming a great distance to help restore power, were reportedly turned away by a crew in Seaside Heights because they did not belong to a union.

Decatur Utilities workers were sent to Long Island instead according to Huntsville, Alabama TV station WAFF because “they were told by crews in Seaside Heights that they can’t do any work there since they’re not union employees” according to one of the employees.

From YOUR link.

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BTW, Light. I don't have a problem with Unions, our family benefits from my husbands Union. Even though he's retired. I do however have a problem with a city turning away help after such devastation. Our area gets frequent tornadoes, and Electric workers from other states sometimes come and help. Maybe they are Union, I don't know for sure. If they turned away non-Union workers I would be upset.

I wonder if this happened after Katrina and Rita?

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Unreal!! Can you imagine the angry citizens when they find out about this??

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I don't know, maybe that town had all the help it needed with Union workers only.

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uh huh

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I can understand this decision.

People have the right to make principled decisions.

The logic is not very different than rejecting an imported, foreign built thingamajig and spending a few extra dollars to buy the same thingamajig that is made in America.

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You mean the power company had the right to refuse help? Because for sure workers from another state are foreign. :crazywalls

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Principled decisions??

There are millions w/o power and they have help coming in from
all over and then they turn them away??

Oh my word!

Yes. If someone would have made a principled decision... Rahab who? ROFLOL

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The story is a lie. It didn't happen.
Bill Yell a spokesman for Huntsville utilities
"That's a rumor," he said. "We are starting work this morning with Long Island Power Authority. We were headed to a New Jersey utility but they had all the crews they could handle."

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...denies_cl.html

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._non-unio.html

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Huntsville, Joe Wheeler utilities deny claims of union discrimination during Sandy response (update)

Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities, said nine of his employees are currently helping with recovery from Hurricane Sandy and had no union-related issues.

"That's a rumor," he said. "We are starting work this morning with Long Island Power Authority. We were headed to a New Jersey utility but they had all the crews they could handle."

Yell said going to assist with utilities recovery is not as simple as sending donated goods and requires a lot of coordination.

"We were not turned away," he said. "It's a lot more complicated than that. One of the problems is whenever this kind of thing happens people call and ask, 'Are you going to send crews out?' but it's not a situation where everybody jumps in truck and heads up there. You have to work through trade associations. You have mutual-aid agreements and you've got to find a system that needs you and is able to take you."

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/..._river_default

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Jinks, Light - you owe me a Coke! :heeheehee

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Trying to scare everyone, further, into voting for Romney. Sick of all of this. :bigbaby

HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
 

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The NEW JERSY UNION story is a lie. It didn't happen.





Re: NJ Town Rejects Non-Union Workers Help
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light
The story is a lie. It didn't happen.
Bill Yell a spokesman for Huntsville utilities
"That's a rumor," he said. "We are starting work this morning with Long Island Power Authority. We were headed to a New Jersey utility but they had all the crews they could handle."

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...denies_cl.html

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._non-unio.html
A republican lie

Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
 

More fear mongering to get Romney elected. I am almost convinced that the R party is worse than the D party..I am not there yet, but the things I am finding out..just makes me think that what I thought was honest and real for so long..was just a big, fat lie.

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ya ? except light is anything but a republican

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when you start espousing that bush allowed the hijackers to hijack and then tried to pass a more severe version of the patriot act to enact dictatorial powers, then i'll know you are a true believer. :highfive

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cindy why are you citing the blaze? i believe that is glenn beck's website. not very credible.

Re: HJ story is a lie. It didn't happen.
 

I am a lifelong Democrat and very proud of it.

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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...crews_tur.html

North Alabama utility crews reportedly turned away from New Jersey aid for being nonunion (updated)

North Alabama crews sent to aid in power restoration for Hurricane Sandy victims are being sent away from New Jersey work sites because they are not union employees, according to WAFF 48.


WAFF initially reported that Alabama crews, including those from Huntsville, Decatur and Trinity, were originally called in to help in Seaside Heights, N.J. but were forbidden to work upon arrival. Officials with Huntsville Utilities and the Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative say their crews did not have that problem.


However, Decatur Utilities have now confirmed that they were turned away because their workers were not unionized.

Nine Huntsville employees who left this week will instead be going to Long Island, N. Y. The crew from Joe Wheeler EMC in Trinity is already going home.

Click here to read WAFF's full story with video.

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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...crews_tur.html

North Alabama utility crews reportedly turned away from New Jersey aid for being nonunion (updated)
North Alabama crews sent to aid in power restoration for Hurricane Sandy victims are being sent away from New Jersey work sites because they are not union employees, according to WAFF 48.


WAFF initially reported that Alabama crews, including those from Huntsville, Decatur and Trinity, were originally called in to help in Seaside Heights, N.J. but were forbidden to work upon arrival. Officials with Huntsville Utilities and the Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative say their crews did not have that problem.


However, Decatur Utilities have now confirmed that they were turned away because their workers were not unionized.
Nine Huntsville employees who left this week will instead be going to Long Island, N. Y. The crew from Joe Wheeler EMC in Trinity is already going home.

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Okay, definitely not there. :heeheehee Thus far, I think it was passed as a result or excuse, but not orchestrated to get it done. I also have a huge problem with NDAA which Obama and fully Romney support.

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I heard audio today of the non union Alabama utility workers being harrassed for not being union and told to go home.

Speaking as the son of a longtime Teamster union member and the father of a longtime SAG union member I can say without a doubt that unions are thugs.

They pull this kind of excrement and then wonder why union membership has died in America.

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Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities says they were not turned away and that there were no union related issues, so I think I would want more information. Like he said, there is a lot of coordinating that is involved. I would want to know more.

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Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities says they were not turned away and that there were no union related issues, so I think I would want more information. Like he said, there is a lot of coordinating that is involved. I would want to know more.

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I heard it too. Horrible cursing and calling them scabs.

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I just gave you information that they were.
I believe it.
Have you heard that audio?

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No, I just read another company head refute the claim. I know there is coordination that needs to be done because of safety issues. This is an election year, everything is speculation.

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I just gave you information that they were.
I believe it.
Have you heard any audio?

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Why do we have two threads? Title distortion conflict? :heeheehee

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No, I just read another company head refute the claim. I know there is coordination that needs to be done because of safety issues. This is an election year, everything is speculation. I don't believe anything anyone says anymore. :heeheehee

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Did you even watch and listen to the video?

He said the information that caused them to bring their men home was not a union or non union issue. The letter they received that caused this issue was not from NJ, or from a union but came from their own state rep.

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Right. He is saying that it is not a union v. non-union issue, but an issue of logistics.

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Three different crews were mentioned.
Decatur Utilities confirms the story here, in part.
The part about the union was true.
They were not turned away, as that area no longer needed help.
However, they are headed home because of the union requirements.

Light, get your story straight the first time.

link

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...rt_flyout_news

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Here is the press release:

"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights.

"In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."

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As stated in the other thread, here is the press release:

"Decatur Utilities sent a 6-man crew to the Northeast Wednesday, October 31, bound for Seaside Heights, N.J., to assist with power restoration. Communication with Seaside Heights was poor due to lack of cell phone service in the area. Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas. As we waited for clarification, we became aware that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources. To be clear, at no time were our crews 'turned away' from the utility in Seaside Heights.

"In connection with state and regional public power associations, Decatur Utilities attempted to contact other areas that needed assistance. However, based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday."

Link

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/...rt_flyout_news

Light, there were THREE utilities mentioned in the story, two are working, Decatur is returning home.
Get your facts straight.
And PO it says a lot about you that you are now following after what lite says.

HJ?

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Look, I read some information and posted it when Light posted his. It simply was that Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities, said they were not turned away and that there were no union related issues.

Then we have a link with a video included by, Lacey (http://www.waff.com/story/19981857/s...sandy-recovery), where the Decatur General Utilities Manager responds by saying that it is not a union v. non-union issue, but an issue of logistics.

So, what we have are conflicting stories. I'm not going to the bank with conflicting stories. What I do have is a video with a REAL person being filmed not agreeing that it is a union issue.

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I'm sure he meant NJ. :nod