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Let's remember that the next leader of our country will be the person who is God's Will for our country.

As we hope and pray for our favored candidate to win, let our prayers continue for God's Choice for America in the months and years to come.

"Unchangeable, unshakeable, unstoppable..." He is "God Alone."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OICAr...eature=mh_lolz

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and the stage for the end of all things is being put into place...we should all pray much...

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I can agree with the idea that the next leader will be the one God wants. I do not agree that = a blessing for the nation.

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Do you think that we are at the point where God wants to curse America?

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I don't for a second believe whoever is president the next 4 years is necessarily who God would want. It is the peoples will and they vote accordingly. Whatever happened to man given the freedom of choice? Scripture points to plenty of instances where man chose wrong but God used for good, what was meant for evil. All things will work for good for them that love the Lord and who are called according to His purpose. God is a master at taking our wrong decisions and incorporating them into His grand plan.

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

And I sure wouldn't go around teaching and preaching doomsday if God did not specifically give me a word on it. It's just fear mongering and I reject fear mongering.

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Our wrong decisions-- were they the secondary plans of God?
Did He or didn't He know what was going to happen?
Does His foreknowledge make Him culpable?

Does His Foreknowledge have no affect at all in the affairs of man?

Does God have a plan A and a plan B?

Does God operate within the confines of "If... Then" statements?

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I think the Civil War was a judgement of God on America. That is what that looks like.


However, I also think God steps back from nations at times removing the blssing from them. I certainly think America is very close to such a decision on the part of God today.

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Actually, I think He does at times. In the parable of the master inviting people to the banquet, the original plan of the master was to invite certain people and they (by their own will/excuses) refused to come. So plan B was to go out in to the highways and biways and compel others to come in and feast. But that was not his original plan. I do believe sometimes God lets people have their way, when it's not His plan.

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So if Romney wins, that means JD was voting out of Gods will !

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You started a thread, made a statement and offered no biblical reference for by which you came to your conclusion. You offered a music video. The burden of proof for your statement lyes with you. I asked you first, what about mans freedom to choose? You answered my question with a series of questions. So... back to my question, Does man get to choose or not? Follow up question you dont have to answer, maybe just consider, does God stuff ballot boxes?

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Why am I the only one that ever mentions Romans 13? :foottap

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Amen, Brother. Too many people forget that this world belongs to Satan. As well as the all of the Leaders of this world.

Surely Pentecostal people believe in FREE WILL. God does not make anyone do anything.

We are to pray for our Leaders, so one prayer that I pray is the God will reveal the screat lies, that would hurt people. And uncover the sins that destroy our country. Hwever, Prophecy will be fulfilled.

God isn't going to send the Tribulation. God's Prophet's were sent to warn us, of what the Devil has planned. Daniel and Revelation is God's Report Card on the work's of the Devil.

Satan is still the King of this world, the prince and power of the air. and he is getting his puppets into place, to try to destroy God's people.

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This is not true.

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:thumbsup

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:thumbsup

Saul wasn't God's will for Israel.

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You're right. He was not.

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Right.

He was what the people wanted.

They wanted a king to rule over them instead of God...like all of the other nations around them.

God told them what would happen if they rejected Him and ask for a king.

And every bit of it happened.

:(

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good, sound, biblical example.

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I believe he had a plan to expose their hearts knowing they would have excuses for not attending. Same scenario as the rich, young ruler.

"And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man." John 2:25

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I think we may be at the point where we want to curse ourselves. And God is turning us over to our own lusts and desires.

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I'm an open theist. I think America made a stupid mistake in 2008 and repeated it last night. We picked our poison and I think the only hope for America to get back on the right track would be for some judgment to fall hard on her. If America will not break herself and fall on an altar of repentance, then perhaps what is needed is for God to break her will with His judgment and bring her to repentance.

This country just saw the election of an openly gay congresswoman, two states legalize sodomite marriage and a movement towards legalized marijuana. We need either the church to do it's job and influence the soul of the country or for God's judgment to break us and wake us up. IMO...preferably BOTH!

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JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN DO AS VOTE DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD, AS PAUL STATES 1Cor. 6:12. ALL THE SCRIPTURE I COULD FIND STATES TO JUST PRAY FOR THOSE IN LEADERSHIP NOT PUT THEM THERE. THEE CHURCH IS TO WORLDLY IN TOO MANY WAYS. IT WAS ALWAYS THOSE IN LEADERSHIP OF GOD'S PEOPLE THAT CAUSED THE PEOPLE TO ERR. READ A BOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LEADERS AND THOSE WHICH OBEYED THEM. MOST OF THE TIME GOD'S WRATH WAS FOR THEM AND NOT THE PEOPLE THEY WERE PUNISHED FOR NOT STANDING UP TO THE LEADERS ( OF THE CHURCH) AS IN MAL.2: I DO AGREE THAT GOD IS ABOUT TO PULL THOSE OUT THAT TRULY WANT TO LIVE ACCORDING TO HIS WILL AND IS GOING TO DO THAT BY HIS WRATH ON THE CHURCH. FOR NOT BEING A SEPARATED PEOPLE. OTHERS GET PART OF IT THEN MAYBE SOME WILL TURN TO HIM. JUST READ ABOUT THE TIMES GOD DID THAT IN THE O. T. AND SEE WHY IT WAS DONE. HOW CAN THEE CHURCH STATE THAT GOD SITS UP AND TAKES DOWN AND THEN VOTE AGAINST GOD'S WILL AS GAMALIEL ACTS 5:39. JUST MY THOUGHTS.

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Who voted against God''s will? Consider Romans 13 in answering. ;)

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I know this does not address the point of your post but could you type using lower-case letters please? All caps can be mistaken as aggression and makes your post hard to read. thanks.

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I agree.