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Thanksgiving Question

Is gluttony still a sin???:happydance

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Not on Thanksgiving. Just ask all the obese Pentecostal preachers.....:smack

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1203691)

Not on Thanksgiving. Just ask all the obese Pentecostal preachers.....:smack

Praxeas I have seen some large Baptist pastors in my life, it not just Pentecostals :smack

Did you go to the Auza celebration? That was a big boy who was preached the closing sermon he could not even get off the ground when he did the Pentecostal jump.

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1203694)

True...definitely.

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You get a free pass on Thanksgiving!

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1203690)

Is gluttony still a sin???:happydance

yes, but if we repent afterward we are forgiven and God forgets that we have sinned

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Yep, its wrong. Fat preachers every where repenting hard tonight.

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Aghhhhhh

Thank God for grace!

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Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1203773)

Aghhhhhh

Thank God for grace!

Yes, yes thank God for gravy!...

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When was gluttony ever a sin??

Definitely not advocating it (from a health perspective), but when did it become a sin?

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I don't consider what I do on thanksgiving gluttony, I'm being polite by consume large amount of free food offered by family members to compliment their cooking. It's the Godly thing to do.:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1203788)

I don't consider what I do on thanksgiving gluttony, I'm being polite by consume large amount of free food offered by family members to compliment their cooking. It's the Godly thing to do.:thumbsup

:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1203788)

I don't consider what I do on thanksgiving gluttony, I'm being polite by consume large amount of free food offered by family members to compliment their cooking. It's the Godly thing to do.:thumbsup

:highfive

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Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1203787)

When was gluttony ever a sin??

Definitely not advocating it (from a health perspective), but when did it become a sin?

As far as I know, there's not a scripture that says specifically that it's a sin, but the Bible certainly speaks of gluttony in less than glowing terms. It also pairs it with drunkenness, which is listed as a "work of the flesh" in Galatians. It certainly would fall under the category of a lack of self-control or temperance, or perhaps, because of its relationship with drunkenness, it would fit into the catch-all phrase "and such like." (Galatians 5)

Deuteronomy 21:20-21 "...our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. ...the men of his city shall stone him...so shalt thou put evil away from among you...."

Proverbs 23:2 "And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite."

Proverbs 23:20-21 "Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty:...."

Proverbs 28:7 "...he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father." (the word "riotous" in that verse includes the meaning: "glutton, riotous (eater)"

I looked at Wikipedia's entry, and found this interesting take:

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"Derived from the Latin gluttire, meaning to gulp down or swallow, gluttony (Latin, gula) is the over-indulgence and over-consumption of anything to the point of waste.

In Christian religions, it is considered a sin because of the excessive desire for food, and its withholding from the needy.[14]

Because of these scripts, gluttony can be interpreted as selfishness; essentially placing concern with one's own interests above the well-being or interests of others.

Medieval church leaders (e.g., Thomas Aquinas) took a more expansive view of gluttony,[14] arguing that it could also include an obsessive anticipation of meals, and the constant eating of delicacies and excessively costly foods.[15] Aquinas went so far as to prepare a list of six ways to commit gluttony, including:

Praepropere - eating too soon.
Laute - eating too expensively.
Nimis - eating too much.
Ardenter - eating too eagerly (burningly).
Studiose - eating too daintily (keenly).
Forente - eating wildly (boringly)."

In my opinion, gluttony is a bit more complex an idea than simply having an extra slice of pie at dinner. "Riotous eating" implies someone very much out of control.

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Actually, Biblical Gluttony isn't just overeating. Though the Scriptures teach general principles of treating the temple of the Lord appropriately, never letting anything become an idol that has a hold on you, etc... simple over eating at a special occasion is not gluttony, absolutely not wise, but not gluttony.

In Roman culture, one example of those that were considered gluttons were the patrons of the cafes and dining areas within Corinth and other areas of great wealth. These places were typically built with outdoor porticos and porches, that contained large pots filled with water, where the patrons could walk out.... cause themselves to vomit the contents of what they just ate into the pots... and then go back and eat more food.... and the purpose? it was a display of their wealth while others around them were in lack.... the fact that a person could afford to eat a meal, vomit it up, and then buy more....

Moderation is the teaching of scripture... but eating more than one should a couple times of year, or at a special occassion, though not showing moderation... really isn't close to true gluttony, in regards to food.

Also, it's possible to be gluttonous in many areas beyond food... those that over indulge in recreation.... sports.... computer games...

On the other side of the coin... I agree, that we within the church.. Pentecost and beyond.... show a lack of consistency when we speak of self control in regards to language, sex, what we watch, where we go, etc... but have none when it comes to food.

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I worked on thanksgiving and I went home at 4pm. Then I gave my cats thanksgiving meals and did what I do on all holidays now.Stay at home so I do not fight with certain family members.