Pat Robertson Rejects 6 Day Creation/Young Earth
 

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I see Brother Pat has finally seen the light! :)

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Well Pat can be an idiot on some things but at least he isnt being an idiot on this.

young earthers drive me nuts.

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Geez people ur breakin my heart here! Lol

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please dont tell me you are a young earher!

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Don't despair, Brother, hearken to Word and not the voice of men.

Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Way to go Pat.

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If YHWH is not powerful enough to make the Universe in 6 days we better be concerned.

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The Bible is clear. Verse 1 - Eath created. Verse 2 - For some reason the earth was twisted into chaos and darkness. Verse 3 - God creates light. Verse 4 - light and darkness is separated. Verse 5 - Evening passed, morning came marking the first day.

The first day of creation did not include creating the earth.

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:thumbsup

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Just one more reason not to listen to Pat.

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I don't know what bible you read about the anything being twisted into chaos, but nevertheless the earth would have been a big ball of chaotic water.

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Ya, when we make our annual visit to the Grand Canyon, they can be a riot (sometimes in a mad "bang your head on the ground" sort of way) when standing next to and listening to their explanations of how the Canyon formed.

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I think I hate you. Ive been trying to get to the Grand Canyon for 40 years and have failed at every attempt.

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14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Time as understood by those bound to the earth was not created until day 4. ALL before THIS was done in Eternity. Suggesting that it is even possible to give an "age" to something that predates the God-Created concept of Time that God himself created for humanity is rediculous.

How old is the Earth? Older than Time. No other answer is biblically accurate.

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Older than time? Wow. That's even older than science says it is. :lol

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Yep, because God created Science.

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:hmmm

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I know, right. People are just stupid. :D

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:lol

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It never gets old -even though it IS old. Very very old.

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Yep. Even older than Sam. :winkgrin

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I believe that dinosaurs and man coexisted at one point. Job even hints at this when he writes about Behemoth.Keep in mind that the Book of Job is pre flood. As far as there being a creation that was destroyed before man Im reminded of the scripture in Romans that says *and I quote loosly* that by one mans sin death entered the world...if there was death before Adams sin then this scripture is false and even if the planetary bodies were not created until the 4th day ther still is a creation of light on the first day and a separation of light from darkness AND it specifically says that there is an evening and a morning and that it was the first day...so without planetary bodies it would seem that God put into motion the concept of time.

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someone told me one time, "You're so old that when God said 'let there be light,' you are the one who flipped the switch.

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If YHWH isn't powerful enough to make the universe in one second we better be concerned also, right? You're seeming to suggest that YHWH was limited to a literal six day timeframe, anything less was beyond His capabilities and anything more was unnecessary because he was powerful enough to do it in less time.

Thing is, I don't think anyone is arguing about YHWH's power, the argument is how long did YHWH take according to His plan (could be instant, could be six literal days, could be longer) and what methods did He use.

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If you study the word void, in the KJV, one of the definitions means chaos. Some translations use the word chaos instead of void.

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Where do you find that job was preflood? Wasn't he a contemporary of Abram?

The behemoth was a whale possibly?

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I am young earther, after verse 3 or 4.

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Read the description of behemoth...he moveth his tail like a cedar...his strength is in his navel...bones as strong as brass ect....and I had always heard job was preflood.

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What translations use chaos? While true that chaos is one the definitions of form it's just one of the definitions and I agree that it could have been chaotic with all that water and nothing else.

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:hmmm Grew up believing Gen 1 as literal. We Are talking about the God of the universe.

But, as the years have passed, I've heard other "interpretations" of Creation.

Now I'm less certain of 6 days ..........and it's all the fault of AFF :secretservice

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Why would someone listen to man who even if they are sincere have been wrong by their own admission several times about the age of the earth and the inhabitants of it?

Why not listen to God and His account or our beginning? God gave us the Genesis account so why not just say what He meant? If God gave us a measurement of a day for us to understand the creation why not just believe him? God isn't trying to trick us. To say that, means God is being deceitful. Then sin would have been the foundation of the world from the creator right? How could He be a substitute for our sin then?

If the earth was old don't you think that God would have worded it differently?

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I highly recommend Dr. Gerald Schroeder's book: "Genesis and the Big Bang" from a scientific and biblical view. It's great!

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There's some things no matter how much we think we know, we'll just have to wait until we meet the creator to figure out how he did the creating.

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Yet the old earthers think that little tiny river at the bottom of the Grand Canyon ran UPHILL in areas, above sea level even, for multiple millions and millions of years carving it out...and somehow that is believable.

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Very true. UNtil then, I have seen more than enough evidence and heard more than enough scientists with just as many degrees behind their names to believe God's Word was literal when it says 6 days. We do not need Billions of years to explain what we see in the natural world.

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Point taken! :lol

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I stand with my head bowed in shame.

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I feel for ya.

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After thinking about I believe a big issue is that young earthers simply have a hard time (impossible even) comprehending large numbers like a "million years", not to mention "billions" so they just think "bah, that can't happen!". And yet they have NO problems using terms like "eternity!" and "forever and ever!".