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Can someone explain what I am missing? It seems this law would make it so Unions can't require dues....

If that is the case Im a little confused by the reactions. Union workers are protesting because they want to be forced to pay union dues? Why not just volunteer to give the dues freely?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ts-from-union/

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no, union leadership knows if they cant be forced they wont do it,its not the people, its the 10 vice pres.'s making 150 thousand each like in my union.

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It is a source of money for the pockets of the union leaders to support their lifestyle. It's also a source of money to promote and support the candidates who work with them (and for them).

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But it is the people who are protesting.

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Unions understand how to herd people like cows for their "causes". It doesn't surprise me at all.

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stockholme effect !

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They are probably protesting because if a plant/factory has right-to-work employees, this will indeed water down any effect the union may have in forcing employers to honor contracts. They can hire people who will not join the union. If the union strikes for bigger pay and benefits, the 'scabs' will come in and keep the plant going.

Mississippi is a right to work state. It only means that when a person gets hired on in a plant that is unionized, they have a right to work without being compelled to join the union or pay dues to a union. And they cannot be fired for not joining a union either.

In the past, anybody who started work in a place that had a union, they were required to join and pay dues to the union. If for any reason they failed to pay their dues, they were fired.

In other words, the employee has the right to work, regardless of whether or not he is a member or financial contributor to such a union.

There were several unionized factories in north mississippi that just up and moved out saying that they can operate more efficiently and save money elsewhere.

In this day of globalization, I am afraid that unions may no longer be effective because they are able to have "free trade" by moving off shore and bring their goods back to the USA for commerce.

I have never been a union member or felt the need to join a union. I agree to work for a certain wage when I am hired in and I am free to find another job if the pay is not compatible with the work requirements.

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Arizona is a right to work state!!

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Maybe it's time Unions changed then to stay "afloat" and viable?

Hostess anyone?

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:thumbsup

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I would certainly agree with this.

There is a unionized plant in MS that used common sense in renegotiating their contract with the plant.

This corporation has several plants in different states. A plant in one state left because they could not cope with the union demands. The plant in MS stayed because the already well-paid workers took some cuts to keep their jobs.

There is one fortune 500 company who literally closed down plants in at least 3 states and moved them to India, Brazil, and France. These were all union plants. So far they kept their plant in MS...a right to work state.

Globalization changes the tide for the corporations.

And on a side note...what will taxing the very rich do in this age of globalization?

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Steven Crowder will have more of this footage tonight on Hannity.

UNIONS ASSAULT ON CAMERA!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=u_F3oev06i0

Prax, Why do some of these YouTube videos pick up the video and other times it only will pick up the link?

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Why don't Christians start "unions"??? Many employers require that employees work on Sunday or work shifts that take them away from worship. Imagine a Christian labor front standing for the religious liberties of employees.

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:santathumb :santathumb

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We have "at will" employees who opt out of the union here too. They don't pay dues. However, if the union negotiates a raise... they get it. If it negotiates time off, they get it. If the union fights to preserve positions... they keep them.

I think that if a person doesn't want to be a member or pay dues... they shouldn't get the raise that the union negotiates. Also, they should be able to be dismissed at will, like non union employees, without having management needing to follow an agreed upon procedure in the contract.

Frankly... I see it as another example of how a given political philosophy can convince people to vote against their own interests.

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I can see the unions being really ticked over that. No wonder they grabbed Steven Crowder and tried to beat him up. There were some really angry people and I think it's going to cause some floor fights at work in the future.

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It's your link which is for an embedded player instead of linked to the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_F3oev06i0

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Most don't understand how "right to work" laws undermine future contracts and wages. Essentially... it drags everyone down to rock bottom without negotiations.

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Someone said that they had a right to be free from "forced unionism". Amen, it's called... apply at non-union companies.

And if a company is doing well, workers are paid well with great benefits, it's union... and you want a job there... MAYBE you should be a part of that union. Duh!!!

Why undermine the union in a company that offers the wages, environment, and benefits that you'd like to work for???

Ohhh... I get it... undermine the union... and then maybe the management can bring wages down and cut benefits (including you) in the next contract negotiations so that everyone is as down and out as you were before you got the job. lol

Makes little sense to me.

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Or force people to pay dues, and allow the unions to ruin companies with over the top contracts. Union memberships are down from 20% of America's work force to 12%. unions ruined Detroit and many other industries. Hostess is just recent example. Unions are quasi-Marxist movements that line the leaders and politicians pockets. My wife is a flight attendant and refuses to join the union. She said they've never done a thing for her but take a chunck out of the paycheck.

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Unions have both good points and bad points. The workers win when the union actually delivers a fair deal to them.

But corporations are fighting back now by closing down and going to right to work states...or worse...overseas.

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Unions have done a lot of good for the American worker in the past.

The problem with using the law to weaken Unions is that rights and benefits earned and protected by Union members will eventually wane-- creating a situation where Unions would be unable to help workers because of company policies or even the law.


American companies who close down their operations in America to operate in other countries show that their "heart" is not for the people that helped to make them strong in the first place. The American companies that leave America ought not to be able to make a profit off of Americans at all.

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I am in my third career. I lost my first career because of technilogical advances. I lost my second career because of government intrusion which led the company to move operations to the Phillipines. As a small business owner, and a full time employee, I recognize a few things.

Companies are created to make profit. One of the main reasons why jobs go overseas is the pressure put on by investors to increase profit margin. My retirement/401K is tied into companies which maximizes profit. A catch 22.

Many people have their retirement tied into the stock market. If the company under performs people either pull out their money or fire the leadership.

Jobs go overseas as businesses try to crack emerging markets.

Jobs go overseas where the is less government intrusion.

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Corporate expansion is healthy.

Corporations leaving Americans behind when it was Americans that made their corporation great is nothing short of treachery.

If you want to excuse or even justify the lust for money that some CEO's appear to have then go ahead.

If they have no loyalty to their own country, then they shouldn't be able to make money off of the citizenry. Let those who move American manufacturing jobs to India and China sell their goods to the Indians and Chinese.

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Do you have a word about companies that are so abusive to it's workers that the need for a union arose in the first place?

Just think of the abuse the company that leaves America is heaping upon the third world country it relocates to.

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Hmm. Thought unions were about workers rights. Ironic. LOL!

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Screwing a bolt into a car body isn't worth $40. In many cases relocations is the best solution.

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A very good Op-Ed piece written by Krauthammer for the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...532_story.html

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Relocation overseas is the best decision for the corporation whose god is money.

Relocation to a lower-cost state is always an option.

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Is that what they were making? Wow. :gift