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StillStanding 05-29-2007 07:33 AM

Cindy Sheehan Quits!!
 
The attention ho 'resigns' as face of anti-war movement, says she's penniless, marriage over, relationship with kids strained!

I guess the liberal activists with money got all the milage they could out of her. Her mental state must have started her into being damaged goods!

It seems her claim to fame has cost her everything!

Barb 05-29-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 131486)
The attention ho 'resigns' as face of anti-war movement, says she's penniless, marriage over, relationship with kids strained!

I guess the liberal activists with money got all the milage they could out of her. Her mental state must have started her into being damaged goods!

It seems her claim to fame has cost her everything!

Not sure I care for the way this is worded, PM, but yes...I saw where she quit. I didn't read it all, but she seems to be blaming the Dems...

And I'm sure you are correct...her grief had a great deal to do with everything.

StillStanding 05-29-2007 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 131490)
Not sure I care for the way this is worded, PM, but yes...I saw where she quit. I didn't read it all, but she seems to be blaming the Dems...

And I'm sure you are correct...her grief had a great deal to do with everything.

I toned it down from what many call her! :) I understand what you're saying though!

Barb 05-29-2007 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 131495)
I toned it down from what many call her! :) I understand what you're saying though!

Guess it depends on where one is standing. I saw a brokenhearted mother...at any rate it is tragic what has become of her life through this.

And thankx for understanding, PM...:)

philjones 05-29-2007 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 131502)
Guess it depends on where one is standing. I saw a brokenhearted mother...at any rate it is tragic what has become of her life through this.

And thankx for understanding, PM...:)

Sis. Barb,

While I too saw a broken hearted mother, I also saw a pawn in the hands of politicos with an agenda. She was used and cast aside. If she is pointing her finger at the democrats then she is right on target with her accusations.

MissBrattified 05-29-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 131505)
Sis. Barb,

While I too saw a broken hearted mother, I also saw a pawn in the hands of politicos with an agenda. She was used and cast aside. If she is pointing her finger at the democrats then she is right on target with her accusations.

I have to agree with you and Barb on this one. I've felt (mostly) sympathy for her from the get-go. Folks who have lost a child or been close to someone who has can feel a bit more empathy for her, in spite of her crazy (and very irritating) antics.

Any articles I've read about Cindy Sheehan have screamed out two things: Grief and Hysteria.

Barb 05-29-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 131505)
Sis. Barb,

While I too saw a broken hearted mother, I also saw a pawn in the hands of politicos with an agenda. She was used and cast aside. If she is pointing her finger at the democrats then she is right on target with her accusations.

This all may be true, however, being duped doesn't indicate anything other than a person was duped...again JMHO...

Barb 05-29-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 131512)
I have to agree with you and Barb on this one. I've felt (mostly) sympathy for her from the get-go. Folks who have lost a child or been close to someone who has can feel a bit more empathy for her, in spite of her crazy (and very irritating) antics.

Any articles I've read about Cindy Sheehan have screamed out two things: Grief and Hysteria.

Yes...

Digging4Truth 05-29-2007 08:17 AM

Yep... This whole scenario is just a good example of the principalities & powers of this world and how they will abuse you and leave beaten and broken when they are through.

It is also a perfect example of how we, as those who endeavor to be Christ like, should be able to keep the flesh and blood separate from the principalities & power that are running said flesh & blood down a path of destruction.

Flesh and blood should find the ability, in a Christians eyes, to be wrong without being wronged, to be mislead without being mistreated.

I'm not saying that one should sit still and never stand for anything. I am saying that, when a Christian takes a stand, they should always be able to remember that the stand is against the principles and never the person.

(Assuming one is right on any particular subject....)
If someone who actively believes differently than I is destroyed with their message then I can claim, whether rightly or not, that I am a conqueror.

If someone who actively believes differently than I is turned from the principle that was incorrect and yet saved from being destroyed personally... then... I am MORE than a conqueror.

God send Cindy Sheehan someone to minister to her in this brokenness. Someone to help her find an effective grieving process so that she can move on past the tragic loss of her son. God help Cindy find truth, life, and that more abundantly. If Cindy Sheehan is to made a tool... make her a tool of your own Lord... for you are a just and fair taskmaster.

Barb 05-29-2007 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 131524)
Yep... This whole scenario is just a good example of the principalities & powers of this world and how they will abuse you and leave beaten and broken when they are through.

It is also a perfect example of how we, as those who endeavor to be Christ like, should be able to keep the flesh and blood separate from the principalities & power that are running said flesh & blood down a path of destruction.

Flesh and blood should find the ability, in a Christians eyes, to be wrong without being wronged, to be mislead without being mistreated.

I'm not saying that one should sit still and never stand for anything. I am saying that, when a Christian takes a stand, they should always be able to remember that the stand is against the principles and never the person.

(Assuming one is right on any particular subject....)
If someone who actively believes differently than I is destroyed with their message then I can claim, whether rightly or not, that I am a conqueror.

If someone who actively believes differently than I is turned from the principle that was incorrect and yet saved from being destroyed personally... then... I am MORE than a conqueror.

God send Cindy Sheehan someone to minister to her in this brokenness. Someone to help her find an effective grieving process so that she can move on past the tragic loss of her son. God help Cindy find truth, life, and that more abundantly. If Cindy Sheehan is to made a tool... make her a tool of your own Lord... for you are a just and fair taskmaster.

Thank you, Dig...excellent words...

CC1 05-29-2007 08:52 AM

It is sad the way this mentally disturbed woman was used by the libs. She is obviously very unstable.

Losing a child could cause anyone without the Lord to go nuts but I think she was probably there beforehand.

The sad thing is that she has in fact been dishonoring the memory of her son as he was a supporter of the war effort as was her ex husband and other members of the family.

MissBrattified 05-29-2007 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 131583)
It is sad the way this mentally disturbed woman was used by the libs. She is obviously very unstable.

"Used" is definitely the right word.

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Losing a child could cause anyone without the Lord to go nuts but I think she was probably there beforehand.

The sad thing is that she has in fact been dishonoring the memory of her son as he was a supporter of the war effort as was her ex husband and other members of the family.
She has. But as a "Mommy", I suppose she is seeing him as a hapless victim of the evil government, and he was probably still just a little boy in her eyes.

I just haven't been able to work up a lot of angst toward this woman. I feel she deserves sympathy, for her loss, and her state of mind. The democrats are the despicable ones, for taking advantage of such a person. Their exploitive abilities know no bounds.

CC1 05-29-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 131593)
"Used" is definitely the right word.



She has. But as a "Mommy", I suppose she is seeing him as a hapless victim of the evil government, and he was probably still just a little boy in her eyes.

I just haven't been able to work up a lot of angst toward this woman. I feel she deserves sympathy, for her loss, and her state of mind. The democrats are the despicable ones, for taking advantage of such a person. Their exploitive abilities know no bounds.

I have felt the way you do until I see her on TV spewing hatred and stupidity toward our President and the Federal Government. Then my animosity gets a workout!!!

Barb 05-29-2007 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 131583)
It is sad the way this mentally disturbed woman was used by the libs. She is obviously very unstable.

Losing a child could cause anyone without the Lord to go nuts but I think she was probably there beforehand.

The sad thing is that she has in fact been dishonoring the memory of her son as he was a supporter of the war effort as was her ex husband and other members of the family.

Well, we don't know this, but that's neither here nor there I suppose.

Barb 05-29-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 131693)
If this is the criteria for bowing out then make that 2.

Well, Dig, I love and respect the posters here and many of them are quite passionate about this subject.

I don't want to offend them in any way...

StillStanding 05-29-2007 09:56 AM

Remember that CC1 and I have sons who are currently serving our country as Marines. Mrs. Sheehan brings disgrace to them by being used by the anti-war, anti-USA leftist agenda.

She is obviously mentally unstable, and holds Bush and the government accountable for the loss of her son, but she ALLOWED herself to be used with the carrot of fame!

My son goes to Iraq in September. If he gets killed (God forbid!) I will know that he died doing what he believed in. He loves working on the Osprey helicopter.

Barb 05-29-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 131716)
Remember that CC1 and I have sons who are currently serving our country as Marines. Mrs. Sheehan brings disgrace to them by being used by the anti-war, anti-USA leftist agenda.

She is obviously mentally unstable, and holds Bush and the government accountable for the loss of her son, but she ALLOWED herself to be used with the carrot of fame!

My son goes to Iraq in September. If he gets killed (God forbid!) I will know that he died doing what he believed in. He loves working on the Osprey helicopter.

I know, Pianoman, and I have the utmost respect and admiration for Reagan and your son.

When Reagan was in Iraq, there was not a service that his name was not called from our pulpit for prayer...we will do the same for your son, my friend, and my sincere apologies if what I posted offended you.

I will delete my post and ask Dig to delete where he quoted me...again my apologies.

Digging4Truth 05-29-2007 10:03 AM

Being against the war is not being against the troops nor is it denigrating what they do or their reasons for doing so.

I want them to come home.

StillStanding 05-29-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 131730)
I know, Pianoman, and I have the utmost respect and admiration for Reagan and your son.

When Reagan was in Iraq, there was not a service that his name was not called from our pulpit for prayer...we will do the same for your son, my friend, and my sincere apologies if what I posted offended you.

I will delete my post and ask Dig to delete where he quoted me...again my apologies.

Barb, I wasn't offended at what you wrote! You were just speaking your heart!

I would like the US to pull out of Iraq also, but not at the cost of igniting a civil war that could unstabalize the entire region which would effect the whole world.

If the wrong people get control of the oil output of the world, they could bring the USA to it's knees. Our economy could crash, and we would all be regretting the day our armed forces pulled out! (Including the liberals!)

This is why we need to fight the oil company lobby and put our brightest minds into finding or inventing alternative fuels ASAP!

Barb 05-29-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 131757)
Barb, I wasn't offended at what you wrote! You were just speaking your heart!

I would like the US to pull out of Iraq also, but not at the cost of igniting a civil war that could unstabalize the entire region which would effect the whole world.

If the wrong people get control of the oil output of the world, they could bring the USA to it's knees. Our economy could crash, and we would all be regretting the day our armed forces pulled out! (Including the liberals!)

This is why we need to fight the oil company lobby and put our brightest minds into finding or inventing alternative fuels ASAP!

You would know best in this, PM...I trust your judgment here.

CC1 05-29-2007 02:21 PM

All of the young men and women who gave their lives will have given them in vain if we cut and run and leave Iraq to a civil war and as a breeding ground for terrorists.

Mistakes have been made and war is a tough long process but the alternative to standing up a strong Iraq government that can keep the peace is disaster long term.

Barb, I don't know if you have watched Cindy Sheehan much on TV but the reason I think she was a wacko long before her son died is her demeanor, mannerisms, etc. I would suspect she has had mental issues for a long time and the tragedy of losing her son just accelerated it.

Barb 05-29-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 132109)
All of the young men and women who gave their lives will have given them in vain if we cut and run and leave Iraq to a civil war and as a breeding ground for terrorists.

Mistakes have been made and war is a tough long process but the alternative to standing up a strong Iraq government that can keep the peace is disaster long term.

Barb, I don't know if you have watched Cindy Sheehan much on TV but the reason I think she was a wacko long before her son died is her demeanor, mannerisms, etc. I would suspect she has had mental issues for a long time and the tragedy of losing her son just accelerated it.

You may be right, I don't know. Just saw her here and there, CC...thought she was a tragic figure who was grieving and out of it.

I am a product of the 60s...actively protested Viet Nam, so that's where my head is at on war.

In this matter, I defer to you and Pianoman who are much more in sync with what is happening, and rightfully so.

Ferd 05-29-2007 02:37 PM

until she cuts out her tongue and blows up her keyboard i will not be happy.

Barb 05-29-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 132157)
until she cuts out her tongue and blows up her keyboard i will not be happy.

Huh?!

chaotic_resolve 05-29-2007 02:43 PM

Good riddance.

She hates the President and what the US is doing . . . but she'll stand with Chavez and celebrate his dictatorship.

Note to Cindy . . . has she read the news (can she read?) about Chavez shutting down the biggest (only?) anti-Chavez news station? Think about it, she's whining about how bad Bush is, yet she's still allowed to do it; while the man (Chavez) she had a photo-op with would have shut her down long ago.

I think it's great the Dems have turned on her. They used her while they needed her and then dumped her like the fodder she was. Sad, but she was warned every day by conservatives who knew what the libs and anti-war freaks were doing.

A lot of people saw this coming over a year ago . . .

And about her son's "wasted" life and service in the military . . . it's an all-volunteer military. Her son made his choice and she's dishonoring his memory by saying his life was wasted . . .

Ferd 05-29-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 132161)
Huh?!

see the title of the thread.


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