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http://news.yahoo.com/connecticut-to...153953370.html

NEWTOWN, Connecticut (Reuters) - At least 27 people, including children, were killed on Friday when at least one shooter opened fire at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, CBS News reported, citing unnamed officials.

The shooter, the father of a student there, was also killed, CBS News reported. The principal and school psychologist were among the dead, CNN said.

Prayers for all the families.

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Oh, wow - how horrible!!!

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This is bad! Horrible for the families!!

Look for the dems and liberals to politicize this to push for gun control!

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Unimaginable... I just can't comprehend how a human being could kill innocent children. these poor families and this happening right before Christmas! I will be spending time in prayer today for those involved with this terrible tragedy.

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Sounds like he killed his parents first!

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Yeah. :(

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I already hear people talking about gun control...

When will anyone begin to ask... what about God, when we took God out of the schools... this is the result that we have gotten... school shootings!

No, instead every school will no doubt in the future be locked down, security people running up and down the halls, and no attempt whatsoever to allow God back into the schools, and back into the hearts of people!

What a sad, sad day for America... and no doubt many many more to come. This is a terrible price to pay for taking God out of our schools.

How many on this forum remember saying the Lord's prayer every morning with the announcements in public school?

I remember doing it in grade school, after that, the Lord's prayer was taken out.

I heard someone compare today that as 911 changed things forever for airport security, today is the "911" that will forever change school security ....

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The problem with getting God out of the schools is God gets out of the schools!

Think about it!

Homeschooling is still the way to go!

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My heart was so heavy at work today. I feel something terrible and drastic happening in this nation. A man in North Texas was found carving a demonic symbol into the back of his six year old child two days ago. There is a spiritual war going on...

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Seems to me you are already politicizing it.

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Worst news all year. :(

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWa0rzvesCE

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Horrible, heart wrenching, and sickening beyond words.

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Spiritual warfare has been happening since the fall of man

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Cute video!

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I have no words. :(
Praying for all these families.

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Prescription drugs for depression, or some other mental illness, just wait and see, drug companies should be held accountable for these tragedies. Seems to always be the case in these killings.

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Dord, and others...

I was thinking about all this this last night. The world has always been a cruel evil place, ever since Adam and Eve messed up in the garden. Their one son, murdered their other son. Horrible, evil, terrible, incredibly sick and despicable things have taken place all down through the corridors of time.

People offering up their children as sacrifices, making their babies and children walk through fire.

Look at Sodom and Gomorrah and the terrible sick things that went on there.

Think of the hundreds of thousands of women, children and men who died at the hands an advancing army on their villages, and towns all throughout history.

Think of the people mentioned in Hebrews 12 who were cut asunder, burnt, and tortured beyond measure.

Think of the people who Nero slaughtered by the thousands.... think of our own Christ who was murdered by the very people He came to save...

Think of the Inquisition, and the Crusades, and the martyrs in Fox's Book of Martyr's ....

Think of the civil wars in nations around the world where thousands of people have died at the hands of madmen ....

Think of Hitler and his madness and the millions of Jews who died at his hands...

Think of Stalin, Mau and other Communist regime leaders who have murdered millions ....

I think you get my point.... I am not trying to undermine the travesty and the terrible tragedy of the situation that happened yesterday... but I want to speak to the mindset that we are somehow in a worse place today than the world has ever been in ... I don't know about that....

I see that evil has always played a role all throughout the pages of the world's history as we know it....

And we wonder... when will it stop? We only know that someday every knee will bow and every knee will confess.... will it be in our lifetime? Only God knows the answer... but the world has always been evil... and our darkness today is no different than the darkness that prevailed throughout the pages of our history books.

The only answer to the darkness we see around us, and in the hearts and lives of people is Christ. But they don't want to hear that.

It was amazing to me to hear the President, the mayor of the town of Newton, and other people calling out and asking people to pray for the victims, and their families... yet, we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place, but after the terrible damage has been done, it is time to pray?

Where is their logic, and their reasoning in this? There is none. Let's pray after the damage has been done, but whatever we do, we cannot allow prayer or God in the schools, but as soon as a tragedy occurs, everyone is praying ? I'm scratching my head over this madness.

Does anyone else see the ridiculous in this?

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Yes. Right here: nobody is forbidden to pray in school. Secondly, what do you think would have happened if there was prayer in that school that day? (There was, I'm sure, by the way. But you don't seem to think there was, so we'll go with that.)

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Why? Do you actually think this tragedy would not have happened if kids had prayed?

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And do you also think that prayer is forbidden in schools?

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I am relaxed. I took a deep breath. The statement "we are not allowed to pray in the very schools BEFORE this tragedy took place" is still not true. And I'm still wondering what you and others think would have happened differently if people had prayed.

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Is prayer allowed in churches? There have been shootings there, too.

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I believe in the power of prayer. Yes what a fanatic I am. I anointed my nephews before they left the house when they were in elementary school. I believe in God's protection. I'm such a nutjob. But how can I be? A long time ago I realized what everyone else is doing wasn't working, so I tried Jesus, and it worked out.

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Read the Bible. There are specific generations and periods of time that even in scripture are characterized as more wicked or evil then others. Sodom and Gomorrah are an example of this as well as the generation of Noah, Jesus' generation, the end times generation, etc. I believe we are living in an exceptionally wicked age, and that this nation in particular has never seen the level of wickedness it is seen amongst it's youth I can assure you of that. There's nothing new under the sun, something do get worse but that all that does not change the wickedness going on in this nation TODAY, nor should it change our outrage toward it.

This IS however and exceptionally godless age or season of time and it is effecting this nation in strange ways. I see it as a reality and front of me and I feel it also in my spirit, that yesterday was a sign or a hint of something dark of a new age coming over this nation of lawlessness and sin. Not that it hasn't run rampant in the last few decades, but sin is restrained in most societies by law and order. But there comes a time when law and order means nothing and lawlessness rules. It's happened in every great empire and has led to the destruction of major world powers historically. When a nation looses any moral foundation that it has restraining sin from causing unrestricted chaos, nations fall.

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:santathumb

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Prayers for the Lanza family as well. :(

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OK, so you meant "state-sanctioned and/or mandatory prayer by students"? Sure you did. But fine. Let me ask about that, then. If there had been state-sanctioned and/or mandatory prayer by students, what do you think would have happened?

And, regarding this: "Well, Timmy, it's not what YOU think about prayers that counts", I haven't even mentioned what I think about prayer. I was asking what you think about it, and in specific, in regards to this incident. You and others write as if you have The Answer. You seem to think you know why it happened, and what would have happened differently if prayer had been "allowed" in school.

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And Jesus also said "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son." So please. Ask in Jesus' name that the violence stops. No more shool or church shooting, or anywhere else. Ask that this be done world-wide. No more bombings. No rapes. No beatings.

You believe Jesus, don't you?

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George Will on "This Week", this morning. :santathumb

WILL: Yes. And our response is always to think that there's some defect in the social system or some prompting in the social atmosphere that causes this and, therefore, we assume, we can tailor a law to correct the defect.

The problem is, the law can do three things. It can deter with severe punishments. Of course, we already have lots of deterrents against murder. They can impede the access to public spaces or to weapons. Or, third, the law can monitor and, in some cases, confine people who meet the profile of these people.

The problem with this is, these people are determined, psychotic, and often suicidal. It's very difficult to deter someone like that or impede. And then when you come to the question of monitoring or confining, you look at the profile. These are often men, young men, young, unmarried men, young men who are socially awkward, and sometimes young, unmarried, socially awkward men who have been diagnosed or even prescribed some kind of psychotropic medicine. The civil liberties and privacy issues involved in trying to monitor people in this not insignificant cohort who fit that profile are insuperable."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-...5#.UM4TWHc2Q_w

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And we know what happens when governments take away arms from it's citizens.