If you are trinitarian.....
 

... and believe the Bible to be God's inpired Word.

... believe in the Gospel of the death, burial, and reurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.


... love the Lord, and do your best to live as He woul have you live.


... love your fellow man as much as you love yourself.


... believe that Jesus was raised from the dead on the 3rd day.

... believe in His virgin birth.

... and believe He is coming again to recieve His church onto Himself.


...believe Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

...believe in the baptism of the Holy Ghost.


Then... thats enough to make one in in Christ.

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:horn

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Someone who believes in three Gods and is going to hell?

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Simple believeism...

No obedience.

No repentance.

No change.

Live anyway you want.

Welcome to BaptistFriendsForum.....

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Nope, this is AFF....where the old gospel song is being sung...

"Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".

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May be good enough for you but not for God.

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The blood of the Lamb of God may be sufficient for redemption for God, but not for oneness pentecostals.

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Not that you will give a simple answer, but do you consider yourself a "oneness pentecostal"?

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Nope. But discussion of anything but the blood of the Lamb of God, right?

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What do you consider yourself then?

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What do you consider yourself then?

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Doesn't matter. I began this attempting to have a discussion with oneness pentecostals concerning the blood of the Lamb of God. I fully expected what has happened so far, attempts to change the discussion to anything but the blood of the Lamb of God. As you're doing.

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Sir,

I have tried to have a discussion with you, but to no avail.

You ask questions, but when given an answer you ridcule the person and then ignore any questions asked of you.

So, please do not try to portray yourself as the wounded party.......

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See..........

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Yep, I do.

"Nothing About The Blood Of Jesus".

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No, you gave the "obedience to the gospel" response which doesn't address the method or place of imputation of the blood of the Lamb at all and you know it. I asked honest and simple questions and I've gotten probably over 25 responses, none identifying the method or place of imputation of the blood of the Lamb from a oneness pentecostal perspective, but many attempting to take the conversation to one of the hot buttons of oneness pentecostalism.

Where and when in "obedience to the gospel" does the imputation occur in oneness pentecostal theology? Sadly, I realize that I'm probably not going to get a direct and honest answer.

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You are lost as 2 boys kissing.

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You apparently don't know many Baptists.

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The first dozen times you said that it had a touch of humor, but after several dozen times it's lost it's luster.

Now, get outta here and back to your self-proclaimed lordship over one of the tens of thousands of churches of Jesus Christ. They need to hear about how trinitarians are going to hell and all.

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Doesn't bother me when he says it.

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Trinitarians can claim they don't believe in 3 gods all day but that's exactly what they believe.

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Oneness pentecostals believe in two Jesus'. Also, oneness pentecostals do not have the blood of the Lamb of God as part of their redemption theology.

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Ridiculous post

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Stupid theology.

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You're not being fair, at all. Please don't embrace the very attitude that you despise in others. I say that in love.

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I was going to say the same thing.

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Fairness is not avoiding discussing oneness pentecostal view of the role of the blood of the Lamb of God in redemption.

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Seekerman, while having no desire to debate the issue regarding "when" the shed sacrificial blood of Jesus Christ is applied during the salvation process, nevertheless I would like to note something that you seem to be missing.....

When reading statements uttered by our Lord Jesus Christ that are recorded in the gospel accounts, it is important one make the crucial distinction as to who is speaking.... is He speaking as God (i.e., Spirit), or is He speaking as a human being? <e.g., John 5:30 ~ "I can of mine own self do nothing:"> This is to say, NOT every word that Jesus Christ spoke emanated from the Spirit which dwelt within His fleshly body (most were, but not all).

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Yep.

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I don't know any trinitarians who believe that.

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If I'm going to be lost, that is the way to go! :santathumb

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That's not true.

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As usual, OP's tell others what they believe, just so that, they may refute what others don't believe!!! And condemn them to hell! Exactly the attitude and actions for which Jesus, rebuked the religious leaders of his day.

Trinitarians do not believe in three GOD's, they believe that God is much more complex than humans, in that "He" can have fellowship within the godhead. Fact is, God is not human, therefore our ability to define "him" is lacking at best. Which is great, "He" is incomparable, and "past finding out..." God is greater than all our definitions!!! "He" is beyond us...! Yet, has revealed his attitudes, his nature, and his LOVE thru, the man Jesus Christ!!! I fellowship with folks that were raised "trinitarian" and as they have pursued God, and relationship with Jesus, their hearts, attitudes and lives are definitively Christian!! So, I defend them from your vile attacks and marginalizations!!!! They have taken on the "name" in faith and in truth, not just thru some formulistic pronunciation of another!

Of course, just because they call that fellowship "persons of God" instead of "manifestations of God" they are not Christians, and further they are lost and going to burn in literal fire endlessly. SE, even equals this opinion equal to homosexually, therefore needlessly offending two people groups. And prides himself in speaking of God in these matters. Show me this attitude in Jesus, anywhere in the Gospels????

Of course, OP's, can have all kinds of varying opinions and doctrines, fuss and argue among themselves, and still be acceptable to God, or not.

Who really is lost? Not condemned to endless fire, just lost??

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Neither does he!!

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hometown guy, I asked you a question in the other trinitarian thread if you have been OP all your life. You did not answer in the other thread, so I will ask you in this one the same question. There is a reason why I am asking.

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Yes I grew up in the praxs church, although my dad is trinitarian and most of my family

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Uh, I don't think anyone is going to but it. Nobody believes a thing you say, not even you. You are a fine one to talk about evading questions.