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Michael The Disciple 01-15-2013 06:28 PM

The Destruction Of Marriage And Fall Of America
 
It was a modern breakthrough in science. Many thought it was a wonderful thing. Now the price is being paid. America took its greatest hit by the BIRTH CONTROL PILL.

When I was young many if not most young women were virgins at marriage. There was a sense of common decency. If someone thought his sister was being used by another guy he was angry about it. Not that all guys were virgins but even many of them (compared to today) were.

When the pill came out IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

Of course God never was for it. His blessing was to multiply children in history. Young women who beforetimes would have thought twice before committing whoredom began to pursue it. If nothing else the fear of getting pregnant out of wedlock restrained many.

Then when I was a teenager that all changed. Most girls became whores. After all scripture declares one time outside marriage makes one a whore or whoremonger.

As where females played a strong role in keeping the common decency now they could do anything with little consequence and it turned into a great flood of wickedness that has almost entirely "fundamentally transformed" America.

We have now thanks in great measure to this little invention come to the place where whoredom is considered PERFECTLY NORMAL. Matter of fact we have come to the place where all manner of whoredom is acceptable.

What would it take in todays Amerika to be seen as a whore or whoremonger? And yet even the mention of such words now makes one appear as a religous prude and a fanatic.

Women GENERALLY SPEAKING stayed with their husbands. Men GENERALLY SPEAKING stayed with their family before the birth control fueled sexual revolution.

Consider this: There would have never been a sexual revolution without the birth control pill. I say it's invention was the beginning of the end of common decency and the transforming of America into the place it has become. Its not the same America I knew as a young person.

Aquila 01-16-2013 06:31 AM

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Excellent point. However, I think the pill just allowed people to live out the sin that was already in their hearts. Another contributing factor was the World Wars. Why? Because on the homefront it forced women into the work world. Women began leaving their homes to work to support their families while their husbands were at war. This shattered the social vision that women were to proudly be mothers, wives, and homemakers.

MissBrattified 01-16-2013 07:26 AM

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I agree that the pill removes some accountability and inhibition; however, men and women have been immoral since they were created and have never let little things like babies and pregnancies get in their way.

There are all sorts of birth control methods besides the pill, and then there's abortion....

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Originally Posted by Michael the Disciple
Then when I was a teenager that all changed. Most girls became whores. After all scripture declares one time outside marriage makes one a whore or whoremonger.

As where females played a strong role in keeping the common decency now they could do anything with little consequence and it turned into a great flood of wickedness that has almost entirely "fundamentally transformed" America.

You mean like men already had been doing for thousands of years? :coffee2

I don't agree with the idea that women hold the keys to the morality of a society. That's a lie from the pit intended to let men eschew their own personal responsibility and blame the woman for their sinful nature. Men were promiscuous and evil before women began taking the pill; the pill allowed some women (who were probably already being promiscuous anyway) to be equally immoral without inhibition.

Further, I don't see what the pill has to do with divorce. Are you opposed to married couples choosing how many children to have?

ILG 01-16-2013 07:38 AM

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Correlation does not imply causation. Logical fallacy although interesting to ponder. I think a more interesting thing about the pill is that it sometimes keeps fertilized eggs from implanting and I think sometimes even sheds implanted ones.

RandyWayne 01-16-2013 08:41 AM

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Uhhhhhh, I personally think "the Pill" was one of the greatest medical discoveries, only slightly behind Ibuprofen and Novocaine (for the dentist).

RandyWayne 01-16-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1214638)
Correlation does not imply causation. Logical fallacy although interesting to ponder. I think a more interesting thing about the pill is that it sometimes keeps fertilized eggs from implanting and I think sometimes even sheds implanted ones.

One would be shocked at how many fertilized eggs are never implanted naturally without the couple ever knowing.

ILG 01-16-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1214672)
One would be shocked at how many fertilized eggs are never implanted naturally without the couple ever knowing.

But that's natural, not chemical.

RandyWayne 01-16-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1214684)
But that's natural, not chemical.

It doesn't matter. It happens so often, even naturally, that perhaps not allowing a fertilized egg to implant isn't quite as barbaric, or evil as some think it is.

Aquila 01-16-2013 11:18 AM

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It's your body by natural right. Use that liberty wisely.

Michael The Disciple 01-16-2013 05:08 PM

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The pill turned almost all American women into whores. Thats the point. Evil men were always looking for that certain kind of woman who would play the game. Back then they were harder to find. It carried a bad reputation. After the pill nearly all would.

America is a very evil nation to God. Anyone who does not see that is not my age. I agree the pill only allowed people to do what was in their hearts. However there WAS that restraint. Now there is not. The world has become very different now because of this one thing.

Would anyone agree with me that whoredom has become perfectly normal to the average person? In past generations it was not. The media looks down their noses at ANY suggestion that sex apart from marriage is wrong. Most republican media people are the same way. They feel they are "enlightened" and we are fools, rednecks, and country bumpkins.

trialedbyfire 01-16-2013 05:40 PM

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Well obviously the answer to all this is banning guns. If we do that society will be wonderful again... (sarcasm)

Timmy 01-16-2013 05:46 PM

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You just called a lot of my personal friends whores.

Timmy 01-16-2013 05:47 PM

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Just saying.

Michael The Disciple 01-16-2013 07:07 PM

Re: The Destruction Of Marriage And Fall Of Americ
 
So does anyone care to comment how God defines whoredom? My point is not really to personally brand people as "whore" or "whoremonger" but to show the dramatic role the invention of the pill played in Americas history.

I admit I was a whoremonger, as well as a drug and alcohol abuser. So the point is not merely to put anyone down. But part of my point is to show we have fallen so far from the way God sees things most dont even recognize that TO HIM whoredom does not mean having 50 partners. All it takes is ONE you are not married to.

Michael The Disciple 01-16-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1214832)
You just called a lot of my personal friends whores.

If many of your personal friends are having sex with someone they are not married to God counts them as walking in whoredom. Perhaps some prefer the term fornicators?

Timmy 01-16-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1214853)
If many of your personal friends are having sex with someone they are not married to God counts them as walking in whoredom. Perhaps some prefer the term fornicators?

Well, if God says they're whores, who am I to complain?

KeptByTheWord 01-16-2013 08:18 PM

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I'll never forget how saddened and shocked I was to find out that birth control pills are considered a form of abortion. I never knew that when I was actually taking them, which was only for a couple of years. I never really understood the process of birth control, and never realized it actually could and does abort babies.

When I realized that, we had already chosen other means of contraception besides birth control, but it sickened me to realize that I may have unknowningly allowed an abortion to take place in my body!

That being said, MTD, I think your point bears serious consideration. Why has our country careened down the spiraling course of immorality and when did it all start?

Of course, mankind has always been evil, and evil choices have always been made, but it wasn't until after WWII when we began to see moral depravity like never before in this country.

Even before the birth control pill became an issue, women were already throwing aside their values of being a wife and mother at home, and were choosing to follow a career, at the sacrifice of their families.

I think birth control definitely did play a part in the morality disaster we have now in this country, but I think the issue goes back even farther than that.

Cindy 01-16-2013 08:35 PM

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The pill freed women and men to some extent. And placed the onus more on women. Condoms were replaced. Then came HIV and Aids. Then came the cry for safe sex, so condoms made a comeback. Women waited until their 40's to have babies. Careers were more important. Or some adopted. Single Mother's by choice. Can't have babies, don't want to adopt? Have a surrogate. Then some change their minds, so judges have to decide who the real Mother is.

Now children are having babies, and celebrate it. My baby's Daddy or my baby's Mommy. Multiple dads and moms. Teenagers dying that have more than one child. Oh he loved his babies, or she loved her babies. And the cries now? Who's your Daddy?

And yet, there are many forms of birth control available that are FREE.

And society says, we have done well. Except................

RandyWayne 01-16-2013 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1214863)
I'll never forget how saddened and shocked I was to find out that birth control pills are considered a form of abortion. I never knew that when I was actually taking them, which was only for a couple of years. I never really understood the process of birth control, and never realized it actually could and does abort babies.

When I realized that, we had already chosen other means of contraception besides birth control, but it sickened me to realize that I may have unknowningly allowed an abortion to take place in my body!

That being said, MTD, I think your point bears serious consideration. Why has our country careened down the spiraling course of immorality and when did it all start?

Of course, mankind has always been evil, and evil choices have always been made, but it wasn't until after WWII when we began to see moral depravity like never before in this country.

Even before the birth control pill became an issue, women were already throwing aside their values of being a wife and mother at home, and were choosing to follow a career, at the sacrifice of their families.

I think birth control definitely did play a part in the morality disaster we have now in this country, but I think the issue goes back even farther than that.

I wouldn't let myself feel to much guilt. Like I said before, most women who have been married over a decade have probably had DOZEN(s) of fertilized eggs pass through them that were never implanted. Obviously at this stage of the development of a human, life is not QUITE as precious as say, when the heart actually starts beating and there are detectable brainwaves.

Fiyahstarter 01-16-2013 09:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1214863)
I'll never forget how saddened and shocked I was to find out that birth control pills are considered a form of abortion. I never knew that when I was actually taking them, which was only for a couple of years. I never really understood the process of birth control, and never realized it actually could and does abort babies.

I felt the same way. I had no idea.

Aquila 01-17-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by trialedbyfire (Post 1214830)
Well obviously the answer to all this is banning guns. If we do that society will be wonderful again... (sarcasm)

:heeheehee

Aquila 01-17-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1214852)
So does anyone care to comment how God defines whoredom? My point is not really to personally brand people as "whore" or "whoremonger" but to show the dramatic role the invention of the pill played in Americas history.

I admit I was a whoremonger, as well as a drug and alcohol abuser. So the point is not merely to put anyone down. But part of my point is to show we have fallen so far from the way God sees things most dont even recognize that TO HIM whoredom does not mean having 50 partners. All it takes is ONE you are not married to.

Well... I see you're point. The sexual revolution has allowed far too many of us the unbridled opportunity to commit whoredom. I can only praise Jesus that His grace is greater than our sin. Because of the cross... we can come to Him, be cleansed, and begin a new life. In God's eyes... we have been made the very righteousness of God. And He sees us as though we never sinned... because Jesus became sin for us... and God saw Jesus as though He were all of us. It's so not fair that Jesus would suffer and die for our sins. But God wanted to bear that burden Himself through Christ. To reject such a great Saviour and such a great Salvation is absolutely insane. Without Christ... no human being will see Heaven.

So let's tell the world about Him.

Michael The Disciple 01-17-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1214935)
Well... I see you're point. The sexual revolution has allowed far too many of us the unbridled opportunity to commit whoredom. I can only praise Jesus that His grace is greater than our sin. Because of the cross... we can come to Him, be cleansed, and begin a new life. In God's eyes... we have been made the very righteousness of God. And He sees us as though we never sinned... because Jesus became sin for us... and God saw Jesus as though He were all of us. It's so not fair that Jesus would suffer and die for our sins. But God wanted to bear that burden Himself through Christ. To reject such a great Saviour and such a great Salvation is absolutely insane. Without Christ... no human being will see Heaven.

So let's tell the world about Him.

:highfive


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