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lol

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< I offer a $10,000.00 reward for any verse in the KJV Bible where Jesus Christ claimed to be
“God,” “God the Son,” or “deity.” (He claimed to be the Messiah) (John 4:25-26).

lol....Im laughing because he stipulates it HAS to be in the KJV.

Im also laughing because he and everyone knows it can be done but because Joel is the judge he will simply deny the verses in question show the "deity" of the Son and make some excuse for the verse

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I just sent him this response:

How long do you think it'll be before he takes the webpage down?

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I also posted this one:

Who is this guy?

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He'll deny that is the Son sitting on the throne and even if it was, nothing there says he is God...

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Saying, "I shall be his God" isn't Him claiming to be God? OK.

Also, he said it was an either/or of Jesus saying He was "God", "God the Son", or "deity".

Again, who is this guy?

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He'll deny that was the Son saying "I will be his God". He'll say that was the Father on the throne

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Even though the words are in red?

Again, who is this guy?

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Are you joking about the words being in red part?

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Only the KJV puts it in red. The original Greek MSS did not use colors to distinguish the words of Jesus

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:)
Well the person did stipulate that it be the KJV.

I just think this is foolish when people put these huge dollar amounts (money they probably don't have anyway) and then set themselves up as judge and jury, denying clear evidence that is obvious to anyone who hasn't tightly closed their eyes, and put their fingers in their ears. Didn't the Church of Christ supposedly offer $1 Million dollars some years back if someone could prove that God did a miracle? Does this mean God doesn't do miracles? I have a 12 year old daughter who has healed of crippling JRA in 2004, w/o medicines (unless someone claims advil/tylenol "healed" her) and without surgeries (which the doctors were planning to do). I didn't even bother with the Church of Christ claim, because who cares, they're not going to really follow through with it.

Kent Hovind used to claim that his ministry would pay $250,000 to anyone who could provide even one evidence for evolution. I personally don't believe there is any evidence for evolution, but again, the chances of them actually forking over a quarter mil were 0%.

I confess, I've even been guilty of this, offering $1,000 (on a church postcard handed out in my community) to anyone that could prove that even one person in the NT was baptized in the titles Father, son, and Holy Ghost. I admit now that was silly (though obviously no proof could be provided).

But he thing about the opening post of this thread is that its claims are absolutely laughable. No serious biblical novice (generally speaking) would even deny that Jesus claimed to be God, and that He is presented in the Bible as God manifest in the flesh.

Rev 21 has already been mentioned, but what about Rev 1:8, is that not a $10,000 scripture because Jesus only claims to be "the Almighty"?

If the people who are offering $10,000 are so confident in the inspiration of the KJV then why discount the words of Paul, specifically that "God was manifest in the flesh" or that Jesus Christ is the creator of all things (Colossians 1:15-16), when the KJV is equally clear that there is only one Creator (Isaiah 44:24) who is the first and the last, and beside Him there is no other God (Isaiah 44:6) which just happens to be the same claim of Jesus in Revelation 1:8, and it is obvious that Jesus is the one speaking in Revelation 1:8 when compared with 1:11-18, which not coicidentally also identifies Jesus as the Ancient of Days of Daniels vision (Dan 7). Anyway, random thoughts on this topic. I didn't even bother clicking the link, the website can't create any interest on its own because the heresy isn't even interesting enough or taken serious enough to warrant investing time to refute it, so they're turning to gimmicks, and using the traffic that AFF has in attempt to get someone to read their bologna.

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Not at all. It was his stipulation that it must be KJV. If KVJ puts the words in red, it's fair game.

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God has taken the truth away from him, if he ever really had it.

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Why would God do that?

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I got $10,000 that says the guy doesn't have $10,000.

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What about in John 1:1-4;13-14or 10:30. Isaiah is full of one God prophecy that only Jesus could fulfill. There is only one.

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This is the challenge: " I offer a $10,000.00 reward for any verse in the KJV Bible where Jesus Christ claimed to be “God,” “God the Son,” or “deity.”

So far, not a single solitary reference has been given were *JESUS* (notice the challenge folks) claimed to be "God", "God the Son" or "deity". That's because *JESUS* never claimed to be "God", "God the Son" or "deity".

I was at a day long seminar where brother hemphill gave his reasons for his view and there were two UPC pastors and a UPC assistant pastor there who were in agreement with him.

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I'll bet you $9,000 that if I submit John 8:58 ("Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."), I wouldn't win the reward. :lol

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Even when Jesus said "I and my father are one." John 10:30 makes me believe there was only one. He also told the disciples when you see me you see the father. Who was the father.?

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Jesus certainly did say when you've seen me you've seen the Father, no doubt. But when oneness pentecostals quote that verse, they never quote the important verses following His statement. Here it is in context......

Joh 14:9 Jesus *said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
11 "Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. 12 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.

Let me ask you, do you believe that Jesus was in His Father and His Father was in Him?

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yes. I believe he was in the father and his father in him. But do you believe that Jesus is the fleshly form of GOD?

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As Timmy posted in the other thread, yeah this is a funny thread.

You can lead a horse (this man) to water (the word), but you cannot make it drink (believe). The man has his mind made up.

But even if one could convince him and he gave up the money, would anybody feel comfortable taking it for themselves? I certainly would not.

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I would! :lol

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:highfive:highfive

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He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. Revelation 21:7

Spoken by Jesus. That whole, "I will be his God" line seems pretty straightforward to me.

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The article was posted as a topic just as anyone who post a "new topic" I thought it would be a interesting challenge to those who would step up but so far it has only been giving "drive by" shots.I did not post the article to draw traffic.My blog is well established and had over 9,000 hits in two years BEFORE I even posted it so the non sense I posted it for traffic reasons is bogus as the attempts to refute the challenge..I do not need traffic..I have traffic every day. No one is twisting your arm to go to the site but for those who wish to be challenged the door is open..

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The very beginning of Revelation is ran over like a beer can on a highway


Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

God gave what to who?

Who did Jesus give this too?

The Revelation John speaks about was given to Him by Jesus..Jesus gets it from his Father and God..

Oh you did not know Jesus has a God?



Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

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Citing a different scripture doesn't change what Jesus said in Revelation 21:7. Please directly refute what Jesus said in 21:7, specifically, "I will be his God". This time, if you choose to reply, please don't use any deflections. Simply explain to me how Jesus saying, "I will be his God", doesn't directly satisfy the challenge.

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I was citing the same book :) the first verse sets the wheels in motion :)

Just for my FYI WHY do you think this is Jesus speaking? Words in Red?

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Jesus' words being in red is one of the characteristics of the KJV. I didn't ask you to cite the same book, I asked you to directly refute the verse I quoted. You are trying to use inferred logic to refute my response to your question, I am asking you to directly refute my verse. I doubt you will, because you can't. The words say what they say.

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There are a few things that I dislike about this question with reward.

Primarily this; like Satan in the garden of Eden, this isn't an outright attach on divinity - but the hint to make one question the extent of divinity. This is subtly satanic; placing question's in ones mind that demean, or lessen, divinity.

Secondly, when Thomas bowed before Jesus and proclaimed of Him, "My Lord and my God...", he was not rebuked: The worship was accepted by Jesus because He IS God - the fullness of the Godhead dwelleth bodily in Him. To not see this is to believe that Jesus is a part of the Godhead when the Godhead is a part of Jesus.

Lastly, Paul said, in Titus 3:9, to avoid foolish questions and contentions that are unprofitable and vain. Questions that become divisive rather than unifying are, again, tools that demean us as Christians. We can do the right thing (examine the Word) in the wrong way - creating strife, hard feelings and division. If we dig deeply enough even amongst brethren of the same precious faith we can find areas that divide; we become like the house of Chloe - separated by ill will and divisiveness. Majoring on minors is what this seems to me; focusing on something that will more likely harm than help. Some questions as they are poised are not answerable - notice as they are poised. 'Do you still beat your wife?' is an example; if untrue it cannot be answered properly because the inference of the question is incorrect.

I won't often address threads like this; I don't like the feeling they birth. While iron should sharpen iron, questions of this sort more often become hurtful in many ways. At least this is my feeling; my .02 worth.

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I was simply asking WHY you assume these are the words of Christ..in Revelation 21:7

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And I answered you. What is your response?