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LifeUncommon 02-01-2013 06:40 AM

What is up with the different spellings of Jesus?
 
More and more I'm seeing people abandon use of Jesus in favor if Yeshua, and several other alternative spellings.

What is that all about? Do people think its more accurate? Is it just a fad?

RandyWayne 02-01-2013 07:49 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
It's a fad.

Just wait until the NEXT big revelation hits. :)

Michael The Disciple 02-01-2013 07:50 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Im not aware of anyone here who has abandoned the name of Jesus. Yeshua is more accurate because it is the Hebrew name he was born with given through the angel Gabriel. Jesus is the English version of the name.

Bro. Robbins 02-01-2013 08:12 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1219974)
Im not aware of anyone here who has abandoned the name of Jesus. Yeshua is more accurate because it is the Hebrew name he was born with given through the angel Gabriel. Jesus is the English version of the name.

I"m English. I speak English. Therefore, actually, for someone who speaks English Jesus is the more accurate name. If my native language were Hebrew then Yeshua would be more accruate for me.

Cindy 02-01-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1219982)
I"m English. I speak English. Therefore, actually, for someone who speaks English Jesus is the more accurate name. If my native language were Hebrew then Yeshua would be more accruate for me.

:thumbsup

He know His name, in any language.

houston 02-01-2013 02:44 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
I think Joshua is more accurate.

Praxeas 02-01-2013 05:00 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1219954)
More and more I'm seeing people abandon use of Jesus in favor if Yeshua, and several other alternative spellings.

What is that all about? Do people think its more accurate? Is it just a fad?

Those aren't alternative spellings. They are His name in the original Aramaic He was named in

LifeUncommon 02-01-2013 05:04 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
So why the Aramaic over the Jesus that we use in English? Just personal preference?

Also, names don't translate, so it has to be pronounced the same.

Michael The Disciple 02-01-2013 05:23 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220181)
So why the Aramaic over the Jesus that we use in English? Just personal preference?

Also, names don't translate, so it has to be pronounced the same.

Where does the idea they have to be pronounced the same come from? The concept is called "transliteration". The reason its not perfect is different languages many times dont contain the same sounds. So the intention is perfectly logical and innocent. Its just it cannot happen.

Michael The Disciple 02-01-2013 06:19 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins (Post 1219982)
I"m English. I speak English. Therefore, actually, for someone who speaks English Jesus is the more accurate name. If my native language were Hebrew then Yeshua would be more accruate for me.

So does this mean its wrong to call the Lord by any language except the one you speak? I like to call him Yesu also. Many languages use that.

seekerman 02-01-2013 06:23 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Jesus Emmanuel Christ?

Praxeas 02-01-2013 08:19 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220181)
So why the Aramaic over the Jesus that we use in English? Just personal preference?

Also, names don't translate, so it has to be pronounced the same.

Because they feel like it. But some believe you are lost if you don't use His Aramaic name in prayer and baptism

LifeUncommon 02-01-2013 11:33 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1220223)
Because they feel like it. But some believe you are lost if you don't use His Aramaic name in prayer and baptism

Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??

Praxeas 02-02-2013 12:48 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220266)
Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??

Hyper "Apostolica"....

We stressed such a dependence on "the name" these guys took it to the extreme..

Michael The Disciple 02-02-2013 06:20 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220266)
Oh wow! People sure like their rules. Don't they??

No one on this Forum believes that. However most here do believe you can enter the kingdom of Heaven without overcoming sin! Wow!

LifeUncommon 02-02-2013 06:24 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1220190)
Where does the idea they have to be pronounced the same come from? The concept is called "transliteration". The reason its not perfect is different languages many times dont contain the same sounds. So the intention is perfectly logical and innocent. Its just it cannot happen.

I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.

Michael The Disciple 02-02-2013 06:43 AM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220287)
I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.

Yes if a language has the Hebrew sounds it is preferable to use them. English does. Thats why I use "Yeshua".

Are you saying he was called Jesus while he was here?

Praxeas 02-02-2013 02:29 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220287)
I'm not sure where the idea came from, but in my study of languages one thing that was stressed is that names do not translate. Now, it may be that people in another land don't have the ability to speak certain sounds and a name may be pronounced slightly different due to accent/dialect, but every effort is made to preserve the pronunciation of names.

Of course names translate. Where did you read that?

LifeUncommon 02-03-2013 02:34 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1220289)
Yes if a language has the Hebrew sounds it is preferable to use them. English does. Thats why I use "Yeshua".

Are you saying he was called Jesus while he was here?

I'm saying he was called something that sounded similarly to Jesus, yes.

LifeUncommon 02-03-2013 02:36 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1220408)
Of course names translate. Where did you read that?

Proper names do NOT translate. You can read that in a blue million places. John is John wether in the US, Italy, Ukraine, etc.

Arphaxad 02-04-2013 12:19 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
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Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220681)
Proper names do NOT translate. You can read that in a blue million places. John is John wether in the US, Italy, Ukraine, etc.

Michael, Miguel, Michelle,Mikhail, etc.

BeenThinkin 02-04-2013 12:26 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Hey, why are you worried about the different spellings of Jesus. Very little else on AFF is speelled right!!! For instance.... how many folks have misspelled "altar" by spelling it "alter?" :heeheehee Yes! I am aware we are talking about different things. I'm not that stupid! :foottap :happydance

Been Thinkin

Ferd 02-04-2013 12:32 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
believe it or not, there are folks out there that take themselves very seriously.

some of them believe that if you call him Jesus, you believe in ANOTHER GOD. They think you have to have the spelling right and the hebrew pronunciation right or you got the wrong god.

im not sure how using english spelling for Yashua qualifies them.... but...err... never let facts get in the way with sending people to hell huh?

LOL.

RandyWayne 02-04-2013 12:46 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
I wonder what the Klingon word for Jesus is.... And if you were to be baptized in that name, would it count?

OnTheFritz 02-04-2013 12:50 PM

If "JESUS" was good enough for Paul and Silas, it's good enough for me.

Praxeas 02-04-2013 03:21 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220681)
Proper names do NOT translate. You can read that in a blue million places. John is John wether in the US, Italy, Ukraine, etc.

Then give us a scholarly blue million quote

BTW
John English
Juan Spanish
Yohan Hebrew
Jevan Welsh
Giovanni Italian
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name)
You don't know what you are talking about

Praxeas 02-04-2013 03:26 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeUncommon (Post 1220680)
I'm saying he was called something that sounded similarly to Jesus, yes.

Yeshua Hebrew
Iesous Greek
Iesus Latin
Jesus English

Michael The Disciple 02-04-2013 04:34 PM

Re: What is up with the different spellings of Jes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1220974)
Yeshua Hebrew
Iesous Greek
Iesus Latin
Jesus English

I might add that the "s" at the end of Iesous is added by Greek grammer rules. The name in Greek would be Iesou pronounced as Yay soo.

I have read that when Tyndale translated his original English from Greek version he dropped the "s" as did the next several early English versions.

They were using Yesu pronounced as Yay soo.

The name Jesus was not known in those days.


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