Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
 

Lutheran pastor apologizes for praying in Newtown Vigil. Old time Pentecostals aren't the only ones who practice exclusivity!

"Pastor Rob Morris, who leads the Christ the King Lutheran Church in Newtown, violated the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod's rule against taking part in joint worship services, said the synod's president, Pastor Matthew C. Harrison.

Participation could be seen as endorsing "false teaching" because some among the diverse group of religious leaders at the vigil hold beliefs different from those of synod."

A link to the full article is below;

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/0...gil/?hpt=hp_t3

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I think he was right to apologize he had no business joining in prayer with muslims nudist and other worshipers of false gods if he claims to be a Christian. (not saying I agree with his doctrine)

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Yup, being around Muslim nudists is definitely not a time to shine the light of the gospel.....

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To shine the gospel yes to participate in prayer as though all faiths represented are equal or that all the gods being prayed to are the same as God this is unacceptable. Proclaiming the gospel would have been very proper but joining in anything except a prayer of repentance was not right at all.

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How does him praying represent all the faiths as equal? BTW where there naked muslims there?

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Lol sorry about the typo there I meant buddhist not nudists :) .
To join with them in prayer as if you are saying YOU PRAY TO YOUR God AND I WILL PRAY TO MINE AND WE CAN ALL GET ALONG when their god is no god at all.

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buddhists and nudists, quite different images lol.

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I was starting to think I had really missed something by not seeing that there were Muslim nudists at that prayer vigil. Certainly a group I had never heard of before. I was thinking it must be made up of only Muslim men. Kind of like at Wet N Wild Orlando last year when the young muslim man was enjoying the wave pool in his t shirt and shorts while his wife tried not to drown in her head to toe Burkha in the pool.

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No one must not have told Elijah that.:smack

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Prax, this sectarian view of 'us 4 and no more' is so silly.

Joining in prayer, even with those who pray to Allah or whoever, does not denote agreement.

As someone noted, Elijah let the other dudes pray, and then he called on Jehovah.

What's the problem in that?

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Seriously, though. How can you respect a God that sits with a huge exposed belly protruding out for all to see? That is just weird. One time we walked into a restaurant and I really couldn't resist sticking my finger in his belly button. He was just sitting there staring at the door and all. I thought maybe he could grant me a wish. :heeheehee

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So...there's a car accident and a dying person is asking for prayer. You arrive the same time a Muslim does and the victim asks for prayer for healing.

The Muslim breaks out his rug and starts praying. You? Protest? Refuse to pray because you are worried it means they will take it the wrong way despite the fact you are praying to your God and they are praying to theirs?

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I also read this in the morning paper. My thoughts were more in regard to the Missouri synod Lutherans.
We've lived in many cities with a strong Lutheran presence.
Obviously Pentecostal groups are maligned due to their different interpretations and the lack of one big happy family.:girlytantrum

Lutherans have several organizations _________and they don't agree :foottap

Especially the Wisc synod. They don't think anyone else is saved! NOW where have I heard that before ??:heeheehee

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The Pastor was showing His support for his community by being involved in the Vigil, He was saying to EVERYONE gathered there that He supports them in their time of Loss and that HIS GOD loves them. He wasn't saying a Muslim prayer or a Buddhist chant, He was praying to the Lord Jesus to provide healing and comfort. If I were the Pastor, I would never have apologized for my actions and I would have told my Synod where to stick its non-biblical and strongly misguided rules and regulations. I would be leaving that uptight pretentious group as fast as the door would swing!

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Recently a upci church wanted to purchase advertising for aan upcoming conference being held at their church on K-Love radio.

K-Love would not sell them time and the upci pastor gpt all bent out of shape and posted on his FB page how he was going to change his listening habits and no longer listen to K=Love radio.

My thought was this...What did you expect pastor??

They have a policy not to let Jehovahs Witness and Mormons on THEIR Radio station.
The UPCI is not looked at much differently than the JW's and mormons.
The radio station is well aware of the articles of faith of the upci, that "we" don't believe there is salvation outside of speaking in tongues and being baptized specifically in Jesus name

Truth is, many of us won't even associate with or prayer with other protestant or Catholics.

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You could have put your gum in there!

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As to the hyopthetical situation question envolving a car wreck I would pray and pay no regard to the muslim. The difference here is i am not chooseing my surroundings. I did not choose the setting but in the other i am chooseing to go and be a part of an interfaith setting. All the pastor would have neede to have done inorder to show the Love of Christ is have a separate prayer vigil on another evening.

2Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

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As to Elijah and the Prophets of baal first it should be pointed out that it was only done to show God's power and that baal was not a god at all, Second it should be noted how that prayer meeting ended for the pagans then come back and lets talk abut tolerance.

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Im sorry, but it is absolutely ludicrous to think that the Pastor was unequally yolked with non-believers, that is a scripture totally taken out of context in this instance. He was being compassionate to those that most needed compassion. He was reaching out in a time of great need. He WAS DOING EXACTLY what JESUS would have done! I watched the vigil and I never once HEARD him agree with anyone else or preach any other Gospel. There were many faiths represented in the room and He was doing His part to bring comfort!

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I do not doubt that he may have been trying to bring comfort but as i said earlier he could have had a separate prayer vigil where all were welcome but only christian prayers offered.
That passage did bear meaning on that situation for it deals with christians and pagans:

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

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Again, thats doesn't apply either. He was invited to an event that was specifically for the propose to offer comfort to others. It wasn't A CHURCH service or even a religious rally. It was a time for people of a community whither Christian or other to come together in support of each other in a time of grief and loss.

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thats not in the UPCI articles of faith

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I was with a high fever at Dialysis. I asked the social worker if she believed in Jesus and if he heals. She said yes so I asked for prayer.

I was in the hospital once and this young volunteer came in. She was Lutheran. I asked her to pray. She took my hand and prayed then commented that she felt like I had a lot of faith.

I dont know about you but when I need prayer and a Oneness person is not immediatly available I will have someone call on Jesus regardless.

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I totally agree Praxeas, I have had many trinitarians petition Heaven on my behalf and I cherish those prayers as much as I do those of my Apostolic family!

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I see nothing wrong with joining in prayer with people with whom i may not agree with on every point of doctrine but to go to a place and join in an event where other (idols) gods(false) are recognized and being prayed to. Is not right.

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Ditto me on this post. I think it is absurd for Christians not to participate in something like this. It would be a travesty to let something like this go on without a minister representing the one true God in a prayer service.

The idea that a Christian ministers presence there condones those other religions is about as logical as saying that because I drive by the Islamic Center in my town every day on my drive I support Islam.

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Luke, How isn't it right? I could see your point had the Pastor recognized any false god in his prayer but He didn't. He was simply there to minister and live out his calling to reach out to those in need.

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To go to a place and take part in a service/vigil where false gods are recognized is not right. As far as I know this only happened in the Bible once with Elijah and that did not turn out well for the false prophets. Also that was only to show God's power over false gods.

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that's great Prax! I love you Bro and I will be keeping you in my prayers.:yourock

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Absolutely!I have friends (some right her on AFF) that honestly believe that God does not hear the prayers of those who have not followed the 3 step plan of salvation. That kind of thinking baffles me.

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I agree CC1......