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Dordrecht 02-11-2013 01:04 PM

Something interesting about gays.
 
Here's something interesting about gays and "religion in general":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIKvBqGNyoM

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 01:32 PM

Re: Something interesting about gays.
 
oh brother!!! A gift from God? really?

Godzchild 02-11-2013 01:42 PM

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:heeheeheeI thought I had heard it all until this one...."a gift from God"......:killinme as asinine as "you are born this way":nutso

Digging4Truth 02-11-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223047)
oh brother!!! A gift from God? really?

I guess this is where the phrase that says there are "gods many and lords many" comes into play.

AreYouReady? 02-11-2013 02:17 PM

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Satan wants the people to keep focus on the same old tired things that people already know to be sins so that it appears to be a camouflage over all the other insidious things going on in this world.

Oldest trick in the world to keep eyes focused on a sin that is beat to death so that other equally or more insidious happenings won't be brought to light.

houston 02-11-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzchild (Post 1223049)
as asinine as "you are born this way":nutso

When did you choose to be straight?

endtimer 02-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1223058)
Satan wants the people to keep focus on the same old tired things that people already know to be sins so that it appears to be a camouflage over all the other insidious things going on in this world.

Oldest trick in the world to keep eyes focused on a sin that is beat to death so that other equally or more insidious happenings won't be brought to light.

My thoughts for sure. Is there really any thing more to say about homosexuality that would be interesting?

PastorTLArt 02-11-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223059)
When did you choose to be straight?

Thank you! And Amen!:yourock

Jermyn Davidson 02-11-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223059)
When did you choose to be straight?

:(

Sin is NEVER a gift from God.

The question above lends itself down a very, very slippery and deceptive slope.

rgcraig 02-11-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223059)
When did you choose to be straight?

Silly argument if they believe everyone is born straight and it's a choice to be gay.

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzchild (Post 1223049)
:heeheeheeI thought I had heard it all until this one...."a gift from God"......:killinme as asinine as "you are born this way":nutso

EXACTLY!!!!!!:yourock

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzchild (Post 1223049)
:heeheeheeI thought I had heard it all until this one...."a gift from God"......:killinme as asinine as "you are born this way":nutso

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223059)
When did you choose to be straight?

when did you choose to be straight? Whats your point?

houston 02-11-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223068)
when did you choose to be straight? Whats your point?

People choosing to be gay is the stupidest thing I have heard in regard to this topic.

Either sexual orientation is something everyone is born with, or everyone decides which team they are going to play on.

houston 02-11-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1223065)
:(

Sin is NEVER a gift from God.

The question above lends itself down a very, very slippery and deceptive slope.

Why are you quoting me? I didn't state that sin is a gift from God.

houston 02-11-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1223066)
Silly argument if they believe everyone is born straight and it's a choice to be gay.

I'm sorry ma'am. I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or disagreeing.

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223069)
People choosing to be gay is the stupidest thing I have heard in regard to this topic.

Either sexual orientation is something everyone is born with, or everyone decides which team they are going to play on.

people choose to sin when they sin; people choosing to sin is just as stupid????

houston 02-11-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223073)
people choose to sin when they sin; people choosing to sin is just as stupid????

We're discussing sexual orientation. Why did you leap to the physical expression of homosexuality? That's a different topic.

rgcraig 02-11-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Godzchild (Post 1223049)
:heeheeheeI thought I had heard it all until this one...."a gift from God"......:killinme as asinine as "you are born this way":nutso

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223059)
When did you choose to be straight?


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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 1223066)
Silly argument if they believe everyone is born straight and it's a choice to be gay.

This is the conversation. Just saying your question asking them when did they choose to be straight is a silly argument if they believe everyone is born straight and that it's a choice for someone to be gay.

houston 02-11-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223069)
People choosing to be gay is the stupidest thing I have heard in regard to this topic.

Either sexual orientation is something everyone is born with, or everyone decides which team they are going to play on.

Okay Renda. This is my response.

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223075)
We're discussing sexual orientation. Why did you leap to the physical expression of homosexuality? That's a different topic.

sexual orientation is the topic I am staying with, homosexuality is a sin one CHOOSES silly. So choosing to be gay is stupid as any other sin that is stupid. Get it?

Digging4Truth 02-11-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223069)
People choosing to be gay is the stupidest thing I have heard in regard to this topic.

Either sexual orientation is something everyone is born with, or everyone decides which team they are going to play on.

Sexual orientation is absolutely something everyone is born with. Everyone is born heterosexual. The perversions come after that point... of which homosexuality is one.

Praxeas 02-11-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223069)
People choosing to be gay is the stupidest thing I have heard in regard to this topic.

Either sexual orientation is something everyone is born with, or everyone decides which team they are going to play on.

Or its a matter of how we are raised, what happens to us during our formative years

Godzchild 02-11-2013 03:57 PM

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GENESIS :27-28
(27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. (28) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. CASE N POINT....GOD IS NOT GAY!!!! As for the total asinine and ridiculous question of "when did one choose to be straight?" GOD'S NATURAL ORDER of man for a woman as HE created it to be....was the way I was BORN...IN HIS IMAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ONLY things an infant can be born with are:
FETAL ALCOHOL~
DRUGS~
MALNUTRITION~
GENETIC~ (for the Comprehension impaired) ........
Several genetic conditions also contribute to the cause of infant fetal defects and failures, ie single gene disorders, chromosomal abnormalities, and multifactorial. Single gene disorders are inherited defects from parents to infants, is caused by damage to the functioning of enzymes break down the amino acid phenylalanine. The form of this defect can be a central nerve damage that causes death. Abnormalities of chromosomes can cause defects in infants with various forms of mental retardation one of them. Multifactorial can be caused by DNA mutations and exposure to hazardous substances on the fetus, for example, spinal disorders and lack the volume of the baby's brain. YOU ARE NOT BORN GAY!!!!!!! This is a choice of SIN that one CHOOSES to do!!!!!!!!
END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Godzchild 02-11-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223082)
sexual orientation is the topic I am staying with, homosexuality is a sin one CHOOSES silly. So choosing to be gay is stupid as any other sin that is stupid. Get it?

:happydance:nod

Dordrecht 02-11-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1223086)
Sexual orientation is absolutely something everyone is born with. Everyone is born heterosexual. The perversions come after that point... of which homosexuality is one.

:thumbsup

Amanah 02-11-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1223088)
Or its a matter of how we are raised, what happens to us during our formative years

I think something goes wrong in the formative years. How we bond depends on what happens when we are growing up.

Why would a man rape his pre teen daughter? It's got to be because something went very wrong when he was growing up. This of course doesn't make it right. I know someone who did this. He was sexually abused as a child. He was a minister. I'm pretty sure that at this moment and forever he wishes to God that he would never have ruined the lives he ruined including his own.

Godzchild 02-11-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1223100)
I think something goes wrong in the formative years. How we bond depends on what happens when we are growing up.

Why would a man rape his pre teen daughter? It's got to be because something went very wrong when he was growing up. This of course doesn't make it right. I know someone who did this. He was sexually abused as a child. He was a minister. I'm pretty sure that at this moment and forever he wishes to God that he would never have ruined the lives he ruined including his own.

how sad~

houston 02-11-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223082)
sexual orientation is the topic I am staying with, homosexuality is a sin one CHOOSES silly. So choosing to be gay is stupid as any other sin that is stupid. Get it?

Ignorance is bliss.

You didn't choose to be attracted to a woman. I didn't choose to be attracted to a man.

What we do, how we act upon the attractions determines whether or not it is a sin.

houston 02-11-2013 05:16 PM

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Give me a minute to watch the video.

Jacob's Ladder 02-11-2013 05:18 PM

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They all going to hell unless they repent!

houston 02-11-2013 05:27 PM

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Who invited the redneck?

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223109)
Blissfully ignorant.

You didn't choose to be attracted to a woman. I didn't choose to be attracted to a man.

What we do, how we act upon the attractions determines whether or not it is a sin.

Choice was something given to us from the start houston.

houston 02-11-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223114)
Choice was something given to us from the start houston.


You choose to be attracted to women? No. You (both) choose whether or not to have sex. The act of sex would be the sin.

Dordrecht 02-11-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223110)
Give me a minute to watch the video.

Yes, you guys....watch the video....!!!!!

BrotherEastman 02-11-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1223115)

You choose to be attracted to women? No. You (both) choose whether or not to have sex. The act of sex would be the sin.

the act of sex itself is not a sin if a man and a woman choose to be married. And Yes I CHOSE to be attracted to my wife. Who do you choose to be attracted to houston?

houston 02-11-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dordrecht (Post 1223116)
Yes, you guys....watch the video....!!!!!

I will never get back the 6 minutes that I wasted on that video. That video is as stupid as Eastman's comments.

AreYouReady? 02-11-2013 08:41 PM

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Everybody wants an excuse to alleviate them from responsibility of their actions. This holds true for all sin, not just the sin of homosexuality.

Like the man who was sexually abused as a child, turns around and sexually abuses his daughter. His excuse was that it happened to him. That does not make sense. Nor will it fly in a courtroom.

Truth is...we all choose to take the actions we take. Sometimes it is premeditated, sometimes spur of the moment, sometimes reactions to danger...but we choose.

Luke 02-11-2013 08:44 PM

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I do not agree that people are born gay. I do believe that all mankind are born sinners from there we choose what sins we pursue. But even if people were born that way it would still be sinful and abominable to remain that way. As to weather or not they act upon it they should seek a complete deliverance from that sin just as anyone else would any other sin.

houston 02-11-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1223120)

the act of sex itself is not a sin if a man and a woman choose to be married. And Yes I CHOSE to be attracted to my wife. Who do you choose to be attracted to houston?


Boy attracted to girl is not a sin. When he has sex with her outside of marriage, that is the sin.

No one chooses who they're attracted to.

AreYouReady? 02-11-2013 08:47 PM

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All that being said, do we throw stones at the homosexuals because they make a conscious choice?

NO.

I would not gravitate to any church who would use stones to try to persuade me to believe what the written Word teaches.


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