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denise_109 02-12-2013 05:57 PM

End times prophecy /word of knowledge
 
I couldn't find the right place to put this thread so I'm sorry. I just want to know if any others are getting these types of prophecies.

My friend attends a different apostolic non-denominational church than I do. When I went there a few years ago, it was once prophecied as thus saith the Lord that time was short. My friend told me that Sunday another prophecy went out, "Thus saith the Lord, it's just around the corner." I do not doubt this man as a prophet because he has the closest walk with God of anyone I've ever known, and his prophecies have always been fulfilled.

Now...in my own church we've not had any prophecies but about every few weeks we get a sermon that in some way touches on Jesus' return. There seems to be an urgency in the air if that makes sense. More so in the last few months.

Is anyone else feeling this?

Dedicated Mind 02-12-2013 06:52 PM

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depends if you believe in a pre trib rapture or a post trib rapture. i believe post trib so until i see a peace treaty in israel i won't be getting any goosebumps.

Luke 02-12-2013 06:59 PM

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I believe that we are very very close to the rapture.

Michael The Disciple 02-12-2013 07:14 PM

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We are getting close to the fall of America as we once knew it. The whole world descending into darkness. The remnant Church getting very serious with God. The rapture is not yet.

denise_109 02-12-2013 07:53 PM

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I believe post-trib but I'm not set in stone on that. The man that spoke the prophecy believes post-trib as well. I guess I'm taking this to mean that things are going to start moving fast in that direction. I'm also watching Israel.

bbyrd009 02-12-2013 09:32 PM

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Ah, I'm anti-pre-post trib, personally; and would like to suggest that Christ rose, and lives, and also walked the earth in what He described as the 'last days.' See that there is a sense in which you cannot ever be any closer to Christ than you are now; and get closer to Christ. Understand I AM.

supertone 02-13-2013 02:24 AM

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IMO America has very little to do with end times prophecy and only Americans can't see that. Hopefully many in the church in America are saved.

Praxeas 02-13-2013 03:39 AM

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My favorite one was "Times are hard. Times are very hard. In fact times are so hard I can't barely make it myself saith the lord"

Aquila 02-13-2013 06:48 AM

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I'll play a card from the Preterists. The Lord may promise a "coming"...but it might not be the "Second Coming". It might be that God is about to visit the community, state, or nation in question with testing and/or judgment.

Sister Alvear 02-13-2013 07:59 AM

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I am post trib all the way...

denise_109 02-13-2013 08:49 AM

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Aquila....that's a good point. We should be careful not to put words in the Lord's mouth! Our human understanding is so inferior.

AreYouReady? 02-13-2013 09:00 AM

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Sister A, I am curious as to why you are post trib.

I was always taught pre-trib, but after reading and meditating on the various scriptures I was taught on the subject, I am leaning towards post trib. My husband and I do not agree on this subject, but one day we are going to sit down and have a study on it and I would like other people's thoughts.

bbyrd009 02-13-2013 12:00 PM

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Well, you didn't ask me, and surely know my thoughts there, but let me state that I think that all that yack is just a satanic trap. What you believe can interfere with your faith, imo. How does your post-tribbitude change...anything? It might lead you to provide an explanation based on it, which will amount to a further obfuscation, yes? I have no idea whether I am pre or post, an don't particularly care to find out. My common sense tells me that all those events are going to occur completely differently than our imaginations have colored them, anyway. Hi, AYR!

deacon blues 02-13-2013 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by supertone (Post 1223457)
IMO America has very little to do with end times prophecy and only Americans can't see that. Hopefully many in the church in America are saved.

If the Lord's return is in the next 50 years, I can't see how America plays no role in God's plan for the end. We are for now the worlds largest economy, far and above all the others. We have the strongest military. The church worldwide is primarily funded by the North American church. We are the most faithful and loyal supporter of Israel. Too many prophecies concerning economics, geopolitics, religion and the church, and Israel...it's unfathomable to think America plays no role.

deacon blues 02-13-2013 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AreYouReady? (Post 1223499)
Sister A, I am curious as to why you are post trib.

I was always taught pre-trib, but after reading and meditating on the various scriptures I was taught on the subject, I am leaning towards post trib. My husband and I do not agree on this subject, but one day we are going to sit down and have a study on it and I would like other people's thoughts.

For me the most convincing passage is Matthew 24. Jesus outlines the signs of the end chronologically. Notice the words "then" or "immediately after" throughout the chapter. He's walking us through one set of fulfillments after another. It is only AFTER "great tribulation" has come that the sign of the Son of Man appears, trumpets sound, the elect are gathered together (rapture). Matthew 24 is the Rosetta Stone of Biblical prophecy. IMO

endtimer 02-13-2013 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1223591)
If the Lord's return is in the next 50 years, I can't see how America plays no role in God's plan for the end. We are for now the worlds largest economy, far and above all the others. We have the strongest military. The church worldwide is primarily funded by the North American church. We are the most faithful and loyal supporter of Israel. Too many prophecies concerning economics, geopolitics, religion and the church, and Israel...it's unfathomable to think America plays no role.

This^

Ferd 02-13-2013 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denise_109 (Post 1223335)
I couldn't find the right place to put this thread so I'm sorry. I just want to know if any others are getting these types of prophecies.

My friend attends a different apostolic non-denominational church than I do. When I went there a few years ago, it was once prophecied as thus saith the Lord that time was short. My friend told me that Sunday another prophecy went out, "Thus saith the Lord, it's just around the corner." I do not doubt this man as a prophet because he has the closest walk with God of anyone I've ever known, and his prophecies have always been fulfilled.

Now...in my own church we've not had any prophecies but about every few weeks we get a sermon that in some way touches on Jesus' return. There seems to be an urgency in the air if that makes sense. More so in the last few months.

Is anyone else feeling this?

I love Jesus.
I am committed to the One God Apostolic Message.
I believe in a pretribulation rapture of the church (I think).

BUT I have been hearing these things since I was a kid in the 1970's "Soon" as interpreted by some of my fellow apostolics is vastly different from my own view.

ie. its February. Christmas is not SOON.

I believe in the "soon" return of Christ but I believe "soon" in that case is on HIS TIME and that means it could be before I finish this post, or it could be in a thousand years.

May the Sweet Clean Lord Jesus HIMSELF bless ya real good!

Truthseeker 02-13-2013 02:58 PM

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I am little when prophecy are given in old english such as "thus saith. the lord"

Praxeas 02-13-2013 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1223643)
I am little when prophecy are given in old english such as "thus saith. the lord"

When its in new English do you become big?

endtimer 02-13-2013 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1223643)
I am little when prophecy are given in old english such as "thus saith. the lord"

Your a little what? :heeheehee The "thus saith" stuff is only the prophesiers personality coming through. My concern would be their character and spirit in which they deliver. Ive had prophetic words delivered to me many, many times and ministered in about as many ways too, all of which the ministers personality came through to some degree. Im cool with that because the spirit in which it was done.

denise_109 02-13-2013 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1223699)
Your a little what? :heeheehee The "thus saith" stuff is only the prophesiers personality coming through. My concern would be their character and spirit in which they deliver.

I know that the man who delivered this prophecy uses those words to distinguish his own personal thoughts from what he knows has come from God Almighty. He could just say, "It's just around the corner," but that might be his own thoughts. We know that when he says, "Thus saith the Lord, it's just around the corner," it comes from God.

AreYouReady? 02-13-2013 08:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1223587)
Well, you didn't ask me, and surely know my thoughts there, but let me state that I think that all that yack is just a satanic trap. What you believe can interfere with your faith, imo. How does your post-tribbitude change...anything? It might lead you to provide an explanation based on it, which will amount to a further obfuscation, yes? I have no idea whether I am pre or post, an don't particularly care to find out. My common sense tells me that all those events are going to occur completely differently than our imaginations have colored them, anyway. Hi, AYR!

:D

I don't really dwell on the subject of the translation of this human body. I just know that what I have read in the bible does not "fit" together with what I read.

It's all in God's time. It could be that many of us are going by the grave.

AreYouReady? 02-13-2013 08:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1223592)
For me the most convincing passage is Matthew 24. Jesus outlines the signs of the end chronologically. Notice the words "then" or "immediately after" throughout the chapter. He's walking us through one set of fulfillments after another. It is only AFTER "great tribulation" has come that the sign of the Son of Man appears, trumpets sound, the elect are gathered together (rapture). Matthew 24 is the Rosetta Stone of Biblical prophecy. IMO

That passage is one of the scriptures I've read that did not fit with what was being taught over the pulpit.

I used to feel guilty for "doubting" what was being taught in UPC pulpits, but I am considered to be a renegade by them anyway. :heeheehee

I search for what makes sense to me.

Revelationist 02-16-2013 04:31 PM

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I don't believe the Bible teaches a Rapture.

houston 02-16-2013 05:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1224547)
I don't believe the Bible teaches a Rapture.

The guy that believes Satan is the flesh!!! :happydance

Revelationist 02-16-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1224555)
The guy that believes Satan is the flesh!!! :happydance

The guy that believes in more than one God!!! :nahnah

Jermyn Davidson 02-16-2013 05:43 PM

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Seriously, I've felt a more serious urgency, but it may be the Lord prompting me to get closer to Him because I am way too carnal far too often.

When is the call to get ready ever inappropriate?
When is the return of Christ ever not soon?

houston 02-16-2013 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1224559)
The guy that believes in more than one God!!! :nahnah

The guy that believes Jesus' temptation was temptation of the flesh. The flesh said "jump from the temple" and that was before shows like [Donkey's Hiney] were popular. :heeheehee

What's that, flesh? Worship myself? :spit

Word used not for Christian forum.

Revelationist 02-16-2013 06:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1224566)
The guy that believes Jesus' temptation was temptation of the flesh. The flesh said "jump from the temple" and that was before shows like [Donkey's Hiney] were popular. :heeheehee

What's that, flesh? Worship myself? :spit

It's called Humanism today. It still exist.

BrotherEastman 02-16-2013 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1224547)
I don't believe the Bible teaches a Rapture.

why not?

Revelationist 02-16-2013 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 1224571)
why not?

1st... The word Rapture doesn't appear in the Bible anywhere.

2nd... The Aposles expected the coming of The Lord in their lifetime and I don't believe they were mistaken. Nor do I think the coming of The Lord was a Rapture that they were looking for.

BroGary 02-16-2013 06:49 PM

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Pay very close attention to what these verses are saying -

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Take note that it is clearly saying that "that day" shall not come till some point in time AFTER the Antichrist enters the rebuilt temple and proclaims to be God.

(what is "that day" ? - it is in verse one, the day of "our gathering together unto him" - also known as the "rapture")

.......so these verses clearly prove that the "rapture can NOT possibly be pre-trib, and there are other verses that show a post-trib "rapture".

Also read:

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-WhenWillTh...eTakePlace.htm

http://www.endtime-truth.com/articles6.html

Revelationist 02-16-2013 06:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 1224583)
Pay very close attention to what these verses are saying -

2 Thessalonians 2:1-4

Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Take note that it is clearly saying that "that day" shall not come till some point in time AFTER the Antichrist enters the rebuilt temple and proclaims to be God.

(what is "that day" ? - it is in verse one, the day of "our gathering together unto him" - also known as the "rapture")

.......so these verses clearly prove that the "rapture can NOT possibly be pre-trib, and there are other verses that show a post-trib "rapture".

Also read:

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-WhenWillTh...eTakePlace.htm

http://www.endtime-truth.com/articles6.html


2 Thessalonians 1:1
2 Thessalonians
Chapter 1
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

Clearly 2 Thes. Was written to the church of the Thessaionians. The temple in Jersulam was still standing when they received this letter. They understood this was to happen in that existing temple. The future temple is our Bodies. That's where Christ lives now.

Esther 02-17-2013 03:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1223458)
My favorite one was "Times are hard. Times are very hard. In fact times are so hard I can't barely make it myself saith the lord"

Seriously? No Way surely!!!

Esther 02-17-2013 03:30 PM

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One day with us can be 1,000 with God.

Our time and His is not the same.

Main thing is be ready for he may call "you" home anytime.

I do not believe in pretri personally. However, to me it is not a salvational issue unless, someone preaches pre and someone finds themselves in tribulation in confusion.

TGBTG 02-18-2013 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1223458)
My favorite one was "Times are hard. Times are very hard. In fact times are so hard I can't barely make it myself saith the lord"

:spit..dude, this is too hilarious...

TGBTG 02-18-2013 02:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1224587)
2 Thessalonians 1:1
2 Thessalonians
Chapter 1
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

Clearly 2 Thes. Was written to the church of the Thessaionians. The temple in Jersulam was still standing when they received this letter. They understood this was to happen in that existing temple. The future temple is our Bodies. That's where Christ lives now.

So Christ was not living in the Apostles then?

Revelationist 02-18-2013 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1224967)
So Christ was not living in the Apostles then?

Yes he was. But the temple of old that was the place of God was still standing.

TGBTG 02-19-2013 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revelationist (Post 1225006)
Yes he was. But the temple of old that was the place of God was still standing.

No, God was not standing in the temple of old.

1 Cor 6
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Cor 6
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Paul said "We are the temple of the living God" while the OLD TEMPLE was still standing...

Revelationist 02-19-2013 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1225373)
No, God was not standing in the temple of old.

1 Cor 6
18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Cor 6
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Paul said "We are the temple of the living God" while the OLD TEMPLE was still standing...

Please re-read my post. I didn't say God was still in the old temple.


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