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Dedicated Mind 02-27-2013 11:22 PM

Sequester Means More Presidential Power
 
with automatic cuts to federal programs, it will be the president who decides which programs get funded and which programs get cut. Look for political decisions to reward allies and punish enemies. maybe even more money for obamacare that congress has refused to provide. congress is losing the power of the purse by refusing to compromise, republicans are beginning to realize. BWAHAHAHAHA

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...213.html?hp=f2

deacon blues 02-28-2013 05:12 AM

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You reveal the hypocrisy and deception of all of the fear mongering.

If he can decide where the cuts are made, then why all of the doom and gloom???? Teachers won't have to be cut, aircraft carriers won't have to be anchored, doomsday can be averted. He could apply these cuts to all of the waste that exists in the federal govt. Surely out of $3.7 trillion $85 billion of waste and fraud could be found and cut.

DM if this gives him more power, why has he been spreading thick layers of fear for weeks???

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1228748)
You reveal the hypocrisy and deception of all of the fear mongering.

If he can decide where the cuts are made, then why all of the doom and gloom???? Teachers won't have to be cut, aircraft carriers won't have to be anchored, doomsday can be averted. He could apply these cuts to all of the waste that exists in the federal govt. Surely out of $3.7 trillion $85 billion of waste and fraud could be found and cut.

DM if this gives him more power, why has he been spreading thick layers of fear for weeks???

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/...93de5f58e9.jpg

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 08:28 AM

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Sequestration Panic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=b8cKKMQSIhY#!

deacon blues 02-28-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1228768)

Very funny

Dedicated Mind 02-28-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1228748)
You reveal the hypocrisy and deception of all of the fear mongering.

If he can decide where the cuts are made, then why all of the doom and gloom???? Teachers won't have to be cut, aircraft carriers won't have to be anchored, doomsday can be averted. He could apply these cuts to all of the waste that exists in the federal govt. Surely out of $3.7 trillion $85 billion of waste and fraud could be found and cut.

DM if this gives him more power, why has he been spreading thick layers of fear for weeks???

we have to blame republicans for any pain.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 1228810)
we have to blame republicans for any pain.

Any President, Republican or Democrat, that reaches outside of Congress for any budget not approved by Congress, should be horsewhipped, i.e. "maybe even more money for Obamacare that Congress has refused to provide." - from your original post.

That is one reason I mainly voted Libertarian this time around. Aside from the social issues, which they still want at the state level, at least they are fighting for the Constitution. Something that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats seem to be interested in at the moment.

I do agree with Sen. Ted Cruz - “In 1980, it took Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan. And I remain convinced the longest lasting legacy of Barack Obama is going to be a new generation of leaders of the Republican Party who stand for liberty.”

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1228804)
Very funny

It is funny and depicts the fear mongering you were speaking of.

deacon blues 02-28-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1228818)

I do agree with Sen. Ted Cruz - “In 1980, it took Jimmy Carter to give us Ronald Reagan. And I remain convinced the longest lasting legacy of Barack Obama is going to be a new generation of leaders of the Republican Party who stand for liberty.”

:thumbsup :thumbsup

That's what everybody said back in 2008. We didn't get RR in 2012. And we only had JC for one term, not two.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1228823)
That's what everybody said back in 2008. We didn't get RR in 2012. And we only had JC for one term, not two.

Reagan had a strong message, the Republicans don't have a message and until they do, they will not win. Like Bobby Jindal said, "“Nobody in the Republican party should be thinking about running for president. We’ve got to win the debate before we win the election."

The Republicans as is, are a bunch of losers with a handful of winners. I hope they can arise. But, I already see the Rhinos and Fox News pushing against Cruz and Rand Paul. So, I don't have high hopes of winning. They want to keep the status quo while the Independents rise, mainly leaving the Republican Party. That can bring us a third party, which we are sorely in need of.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 10:59 AM

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The short list of nine RINOs listed for challenge in 2014 are:
Martha Roby (R-AL)
Rick Crawford (R-AR)
Mike Simpson (R-ID)
Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
Aaron Shock (R-IL)
Larry Bucshon (R-IN)
Steve Palazzo (R-MS)
Renee Ellmers (R-NC)
Frank Lucas (R-OK)

deacon blues 02-28-2013 03:28 PM

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Looks like BO and his surrogates are backing off the hyper rhetoric of how bad the sequester will be. Now they're saying, "You may not notice it at first, but it's going to be a big hit on the economy eventually..."

These guys look like amateurs...

jen4yeshua 02-28-2013 04:42 PM

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I saw an article on World News Daily (http://www.wnd.com/) via facebook about 19 hours ago, but it seems to have disappeared off the internet. It was talking about Federal Government agencies stockpiling massive quantities of ammunition ( hollow point bullets) and trying to explain it away as needed for target practice. Sarah Palin and some others were quoted saying that the US Government is panicked about riots and crime breaking out, and it had something to do with a reaction to the follow-on effects of a sequester. Has anyone heard or read anything about this stuff???

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jen4yeshua (Post 1228994)
I saw an article on World News Daily (http://www.wnd.com/) via facebook about 19 hours ago, but it seems to have disappeared off the internet. It was talking about Federal Government agencies stockpiling massive quantities of ammunition ( hollow point bullets) and trying to explain it away as needed for target practice. Sarah Palin and some others were quoted saying that the US Government is panicked about riots and crime breaking out, and it had something to do with a reaction to the follow-on effects of a sequester. Has anyone heard or read anything about this stuff???

Yes, they have stockpiled, for a visual, 24 years of ammo they would need to fight a war in Iraq.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1228961)
Looks like BO and his surrogates are backing off the hyper rhetoric of how bad the sequester will be. Now they're saying, "You may not notice it at first, but it's going to be a big hit on the economy eventually..."

These guys look like amateurs...

Deacon,
You can bank on them and the MSM putting out every negative story they can find and blowing that out of proportion.

jen4yeshua 02-28-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1228999)
Yes, they have stockpiled, for a visual, 24 years of ammo they would need to fight a war in Iraq.

That is what I read too. I couldn't remember the amounts they mentioned though.

deacon blues 02-28-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1229000)
Deacon,
You can bank on them and the MSM putting out every negative story they can find and blowing that out of proportion.

Yes, that thought crossed my mind. I thought any hint at proving the sequester damaged the economy will be overplayed again and again.

What actually might happen is that the economy might improve as momentum for spending cuts increases and more cuts are made as Americans begin to see that large amounts of spending could be curtailed and it actually helps the economy because people will be feeling a sense of financial stability and that we're headed in the right direction. Consumer confidence I believe is what it's called.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1229004)
Yes, that thought crossed my mind. I thought any hint at proving the sequester damaged the economy will be overplayed again and again.

What actually might happen is that the economy might improve as momentum for spending cuts increases and more cuts are made as Americans begin to see that large amounts of spending could be curtailed and it actually helps the economy because people will be feeling a sense of financial stability and that we're headed in the right direction. Consumer confidence I believe is what it's called.

Hopefully the last scenario, but when you keep spending because you have the money and lose it, it makes it seem like the sky is falling when you really just need an adjustment, like we do at home. They will be very dramatic with all of that transitioning in areas. At least I am looking for that to happen.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jen4yeshua (Post 1229003)
That is what I read too. I couldn't remember the amounts they mentioned though.

300,000 rounds a day or something. Does that sound about right? I don't recall the amount either.

deacon blues 02-28-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1229008)
300,000 rounds a day or something. Does that sound about right? I don't recall the amount either.

Everybody's stockpiling. Have you seen the ammo shelves at Wal Mart? A man I know who works for a shooting range said his own personal ammo order was 2.5 months back ordered.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1229012)
Everybody's stockpiling. Have you seen the ammo shelves at Wal Mart? A man I know who works for a shooting range said his own personal ammo order was 2.5 months back ordered.

I know we have been. Tired of looking at guns and ammo. You need another gun? WHAT?!

Because personally, I feel when the tanks come rolling in, your guns are not going to do diddly squat. :heeheehee

deacon blues 02-28-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1229013)
I know we have been. Tired of looking at guns and ammo. You need another gun? WHAT?!

Because personally, I feel when the tanks come rolling in, your guns are not going to do diddly squat. :heeheehee

When it comes to all of that, I trust the Lord.

jen4yeshua 02-28-2013 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1229012)
Everybody's stockpiling. Have you seen the ammo shelves at Wal Mart? A man I know who works for a shooting range said his own personal ammo order was 2.5 months back ordered.

We don't have the "right to bear arms" in our constitution in Australia. So Walmart (relatively new to our shores) don't sell guns or ammo. Is this all a recent development? Do you think it has co-incided with the economic measures being introduced (and the stories about Federal agencies stockpiling)?

deacon blues 02-28-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jen4yeshua (Post 1229024)
We don't have the "right to bear arms" in our constitution in Australia. So Walmart (relatively new to our shores) don't sell guns or ammo. Is this all a recent development? Do you think it has co-incided with the economic measures being introduced (and the stories about Federal agencies stockpiling)?

It has to do with all of the hype surrounding the Newtown, CT shooting. Its emboldened the gun control advocates to push for stricter gun laws. So lots of Americans are feeling the need to buy up all the guns and ammo they can. I think it's a bit of an overreaction. I own shot guns and rifles but I haven't bought ammo in years. I haven't hunted in years.

jen4yeshua 02-28-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1229025)
It has to do with all of the hype surrounding the Newtown, CT shooting. Its emboldened the gun control advocates to push for stricter gun laws. So lots of Americans are feeling the need to buy up all the guns and ammo they can. I think it's a bit of an overreaction. I own shot guns and rifles but I haven't bought ammo in years. I haven't hunted in years.

So a bit of panic buying in case the laws change? Okay, I can see how that would happen.

jen4yeshua 02-28-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1229013)
I know we have been. Tired of looking at guns and ammo. You need another gun? WHAT?!

Because personally, I feel when the tanks come rolling in, your guns are not going to do diddly squat. :heeheehee

Yes, I tend to agree with your position... tanks, drones.... I think we have some of the US's drones patrolling near our shores these days too. Don't know if they are unarmed, but I haven't heard anything about armed ones here yet. Things are changing very fast. And they seem to bring in these kinds of changes when everyone is distracted by something else.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jen4yeshua (Post 1229028)
Yes, I tend to agree with your position... tanks, drones.... I think we have some of the US's drones patrolling near our shores these days too. Don't know if they are unarmed, but I haven't heard anything about armed ones here yet. Things are changing very fast. And they seem to bring in these kinds of changes when everyone is distracted by something else.

I am understanding that you cannot shoot a drone down unless you have evidence of a credible threat from a person or a group who is threatening to destroy your home.

Pressing-On 02-28-2013 09:59 PM

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February 26, 2013
DeMint: Obama's policies more damaging than sequester

DeMint: Obama's gloom-and-doom warnings miss the point that his fiscal policies have failed and put the nation in further jeopardy. He knows his policies are going to hurt the economy and he wants to blame that on the sequester.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the...ylist_id=86925

Pressing-On 03-01-2013 12:19 PM

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Here it is Deacon! We knew this was coming.

The White House Must Make Sequestration Cuts as Nasty as Possible

http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/01/t...y-as-possible/

Dedicated Mind 03-01-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1229319)
Here it is Deacon! We knew this was coming.

The White House Must Make Sequestration Cuts as Nasty as Possible

http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/01/t...y-as-possible/

you call that news? nothing there to report but an assumption.

deacon blues 03-02-2013 06:01 AM

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How is everyone? Did you all survive the Sequester Apocalypse?

Dedicated Mind 03-02-2013 01:51 PM

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paul krugman on the sequester, republican intransigence is good because a grand bargain would cut entitlements. we need to focus on cutting healthcare costs and unemployment.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755822/n...13924#51013924

deacon blues 03-04-2013 03:50 AM

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Amazing that someone supposedly so smart is so stupid. He wants us to spend more! He says the national debt and deficit spending doesn't matter! The national debt grew $6 trillion in four years of Obama---where are the jobs? They have been spending like no other US govt---where are the jobs? Remember the stimulus? The shovel ready jobs? The president joking the shovel ready jobs weren't shovel ready after all? How long will the president and MSNBC blame the Republicans? The Dems have had the White House four years+, eventually will have it eight years, they had full control from 2009-2011, they've controlled the Senate for four+ years, your guys have had most of the power. So how does the GOP catch the blame for the economy? History will not remember this president well. He will make Jimmy Carter look like a hero.


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