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Jermyn Davidson 03-22-2013 11:40 PM

Bachman The Liar!
 
She goes to CPAC and tells the eager-to-bash-Obama crowd there that President Obama was AWOL during the Benghazi attack. She tells them that the CIA had initially ordered it's members in the area to "stand down"-- she's just a liar!

I didn't like her before and now it is next to impossible to respect her!

When she opens her mouth, she's LYING!


http://news.yahoo.com/bachmann-bungl...-politics.html

UnTraditional 03-23-2013 04:51 AM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
There was a stand down ordered by the CIA. In fact, though, I think Obama was aware of this as well. He was not AWOL, but possibly complicit because of his lack of action.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/26/unbeli...to-stand-down/

n david 03-23-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnTraditional (Post 1237148)
There was a stand down ordered by the CIA. In fact, though, I think Obama was aware of this as well. He was not AWOL, but possibly complicit because of his lack of action.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/26/unbeli...to-stand-down/

The FoxNews report has been disputed and IIRC wasn't verified or stated by any other news source. Leon Panetta said it wasn't true. Not that I believe him, but in the absence of any proof we kind of have to.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 09:49 AM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Bachman is the worst Republican so far of the 21st century!
Worst than Palin!
Worst than Sanitorium!
More of a liar than GWB and Cheney will EVER be!

She should quit! Resign! Fire herself! Gain a bunch of weight and take up a career in the adult phone industry-- a career fitting for the type of LIAR she is!

n david 03-23-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237180)
Bachman is the worst Republican so far of the 21st century!
Worst than Palin!
Worst than Sanitorium!
More of a liar than GWB and Cheney will EVER be!

She should quit! Resign! Fire herself! Gain a bunch of weight and take up a career in the adult phone industry-- a career fitting for the type of LIAR she is!

Drama much? Pretty sexist remark imo....gain weight, join phone porn industry.

Since you made the benchmark with Bachman, does the same apply to President Obama, who lies about every time he opens his mouth?

Doubt you'll agree, but if the standard is applied to Bachmann, then the same should be applied to Obama.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 03:19 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237197)
Drama much? Pretty sexist remark imo....gain weight, join phone porn industry.

Since you made the benchmark with Bachman, does the same apply to President Obama, who lies about every time he opens his mouth?

Doubt you'll agree, but if the standard is applied to Bachmann, then the same should be applied to Obama.

Of course I don't agree because the President doesn't lie everytime he opens his mouth.

A change of mind is one thing.
Goals set that are later determined to be unattainable are not lies.
Mistakes are not lies.

Bachman is a liar!

Hoovie 03-23-2013 03:28 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
I LOVE Bachman. It's an understatement but at least she gets what went down. Obama KNEW but turned a blind eye in Benghazi. I believe he is complicit.

Michael The Disciple 03-23-2013 03:33 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Michelle or Sarah would do. Either one better than the compromised Repub we saw last time around.

n david 03-23-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237239)
Of course I don't agree because the President doesn't lie everytime he opens his mouth.

A change of mind is one thing.
Goals set that are later determined to be unattainable are not lies.
Mistakes are not lies.

Bachman is a liar!

So Obama can lie all he wants and you'll give him every excuse possible. But Bachmann propagates a foxnews story and you get all wound up calling her a liar.

It's pathetic, really, that you refuse to admit Obama habitually lies and you constantly give excuses for him, but any........Republican that says one thing wrong, you pounce on.

Benghazi stinks. Obama and his admin have not been completely open with what happened there. And Obama WAS awol. He ran off campaigning while it was going down. The much talked about 3am phone call was ringing off the hook and Obama unplugged the phone.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 05:57 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237262)
So Obama can lie all he wants and you'll give him every excuse possible. But Bachmann propagates a foxnews story and you get all wound up calling her a liar.

It's pathetic, really, that you refuse to admit Obama habitually lies and you constantly give excuses for him, but any........Republican that says one thing wrong, you pounce on.

Benghazi stinks. Obama and his admin have not been completely open with what happened there. And Obama WAS awol. He ran off campaigning while it was going down. The much talked about 3am phone call was ringing off the hook and Obama unplugged the phone.

If you change your mind, is it a lie?

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:00 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Goals set that are determined at a later date to be unattainable or impossible, do you call that a lie?

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:01 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
If a person makes a mistake, is that a lie?

n david 03-23-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237265)

If you change your mind, is it a lie?

He's done more than just change his mind.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:03 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Give examples of President Obama's lies.

I called Bachman out on this because CPAC happened just the other day, but she purposely lied about the President being "AWOL" and about the CIA ordering responders to "stand down" when both of these lies were already proven to be just that-- lies.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:07 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
"Scientists tell us that we could have a cure in 10 years for Alzheimer's" were it not for "overzealous regulators, excessive taxation and greedy litigators."-- Michelle Bachman

Scientists say this is a lie.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ase-could-be-/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:10 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
A few years back, Bob Schieffer of CBS tried to call Bachman out on her lies.


SCHIEFFER: I want to ask you about something else. A lot of your critics say you have been very fast and loose with the truth. You know, the po-- PolitiFact, which is a website that won a Pulitzer, did an analysis of twenty-three statements that you made recently. Of these twenty-three, only one they said was completely true. Seven they call pants on fire kind of falsehoods. Four were barely true and two were half truths. How do you answer that criticism? Because here’s one of them, you know, you said on the record there had been only one offshore oil drilling permit during the Obama administration and, in fact at that time they had been two hundred and seventy. How do you explain that?

BACHMANN: Well, you know, I think that what is clear more than anything is the fact that President Obama does -- has not been issuing the permits, that he should have been issuing on offshore drilling that’s--

SCHIEFFER: Well, it’s more than three hundred now.

BACHMANN: Well --

SCHIEFFER: At-- at that time there had been two hundred and something. And you said there had been only one.

BACHMANN: But as far as drilling goes, we hadn’t been drilling what we need to-- that’s why we just this week--

SCHIEFFER (overlapping): But that’s different, isn’t it?



http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiw...s-out-bachmann

n david 03-23-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237267)
If a person makes a mistake, is that a lie?

Apparently so. Bachmann used a disputed foxnews report and you follow the lead of Chris Matthews and scream that she's a liar. I'm surprised you haven't gone as far as the race-baiter Matthews and accused her of being racist.

Admit it....Obama has blatantly lied as well.

Here's a blatant lie he's spouted recently...the Republicans came up with the sequester. That was a LIE. That idea came from Jack Lew and the WH.

There are several statements Obama made about the sequester that were lies made to try and stoke the fears of the people. WH cleaners would lose pay/hours....lie. Teachers would be laid off...lie. TSA would be downsized, causing long delays at airports....lie.

There are documents from the Obama admin requiring different agencies make unnecessary cuts in order to make the public feel the pressure of the sequester.

I'm not a Bachmann fan. But I'm also not biased and blind to attack one side, but refuse to admit even one instance of the other side lying.

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:18 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Of every "three dollars in food stamps for the needy, seven dollars in salaries and pensions (go to) the bureaucrats who are supposed to be taking care of the poor."-- Michelle Bachman, CPAC 2013

Politifact:

Bachmann’s office did not answer our inquiry, but experts say she probably got it from The Poverty of Welfare: Helping Others in Civil Society, a 1996 book by Michael Tanner of the libertarian Cato Institute.

First, Bachmann’s claim appears to be based on a 17-year-old study that cites data that may be a decade older than that. In an interview, Tanner said he quoted Woodson’s findings and then referenced a number of regional studies that reached similar conclusions
.

This COULD ALMOST be a mistake. However, she had to dig for a 17-year old study that may have been based on 10 year old statistics at the time it was published-- 17 years ago! THIS IS A CALCULATED LIE TOLD AT CPAC 2013!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-stamp-fundin/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:24 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
AUGUST 27, 2012

Bachman:
"A report just came out that if we continue with President Obama's policies, we're looking at over 9 percent unemployment next year in the fourth quarter."


POLITIFACT:
The former presidential candidate from Minnesota said she was referring to a report from the Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan agency with expert staff that generates projections about how laws affect the federal budget and economy. We reached out to her office for more detail, but didn’t hear back.

So we checked out CBO's most recent such report, an update to the country’s economic outlook for the decade. It did include a projection that unemployment could reach 9.1 percent in the fourth quarter next year (Table 2-1).

But that projection was not based on continuing "President Obama’s policies." Rather, it was CBO’s look at what would happen if current laws are left unchanged -- which is not what Obama advocates.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ys-presidents/


Maybe she made a mistake here. However given her track record, I am not going to give the benefit of doubt on this either. She purposely tried to make the President look bad by telling a lie! Of course, she never apologized or back tracked from this assertion.

The thing is, she doesn't have to lie to show that Obama is not a conservative!

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:30 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
DECEMBER 15, 2011

"After the debate that we had last week, PolitiFact came out and said that everything I said was true."-- Michelle Bachman

LIAR!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-out-and-said/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:36 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
OCTOBER 28, 2011

"Under Barack Obama's watch, we have expended $805 billion to liberate the people of Iraq and, more importantly, 4,400 American lives."-- Michelle Bachman


LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...llion-iraq-lo/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
“Now we find out that there are five chefs on Air Force One. There are two projectionists who operate the White House movie theater. They regularly sleep at the White House in order to be readily available in case the first family wants a really, really late show. And I don’t mean to be petty here, but can’t they just push the play button? We are also the ones who are paying for someone to walk the president’s dog, paying for someone to walk the president’s dog?”-- Michelle Bachman, CPAC 2013

LIAR!

Washington Post:

The dog walker is the silliest claim. This refers to Dale Haney, the White House groundskeeper. Gray includes in his source list an Associated Press article on Haney, which states:

“Haney is often spotted walking Bo, the Obama family’s Portuguese water dog. In fact, he’s tended to every White House pup since King Timahoe, Richard Nixon’s Irish setter. . . . Before Bo came along to romp on the South Lawn and roam the White House hallways, Haney spent a lot of time walking and playing with President George W. Bush’s Scottish terriers, Barney and Miss Beazley. Haney was most fond of Spot, an English springer spaniel whose mother, Millie, belonged to Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush.”In other words, the White House groundskeeper — whose main job is caring for more than 18 acres of lawns, trees and gardens — happens to like dogs and has been doing this for every president since 1972.



http://samuel-warde.com/2013/03/caug...eporter-video/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:53 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
"The point is: she was lying to her own supporters all along, throughout the year–about a redistricting disadvantage, a fundraising disadvantage, about her ambitions, about her desperate need for even more of their money, about what she would spend contributions on.

And it seems she’s still sitting on about $2 million dollars of the money people sent her– long after the campaign’s over."


http://mnprogressiveproject.com/top-...er-supporters/

Jermyn Davidson 03-23-2013 06:57 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
This may seem a bit redundant, but the reason behind I started this thread is to point out that Bachman is not just a liar. She is indeed the MOTHER OF ALL POLITICAL LIARS!

Conservatives invited her to CPAC, but left Gov. Christie out.

NDavid wanted to say that President Obama is a liar just like Bachman and I have provided many links (mostly non-partisan) showing that MICHELLE BACHMAN is a liar like none other!

Hoovie 03-23-2013 07:23 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Jermyn! What a joke! The likes of politifact being unbiased is the big lie you have overlooked. Their "fact checkers" conclude conservatives lie 9 times to each one of a liberal.

Riiiight...

Unbiased indeed! LOL

n david 03-23-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237282)
This may seem a bit redundant, but the reason behind I started this thread is to point out that Bachman is not just a liar. She is indeed the MOTHER OF ALL POLITICAL LIARS!

Conservatives invited her to CPAC, but left Gov. Christie out.

NDavid wanted to say that President Obama is a liar just like Bachman and I have provided many links (mostly non-partisan) showing that MICHELLE BACHMAN is a liar like none other!

Hahahaha....politifact = unbiased. Hilarious.

Jermyn Davidson 03-24-2013 09:28 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237273)
Apparently so. Bachmann used a disputed foxnews report and you follow the lead of Chris Matthews and scream that she's a liar. I'm surprised you haven't gone as far as the race-baiter Matthews and accused her of being racist.

Admit it....Obama has blatantly lied as well.

Here's a blatant lie he's spouted recently...the Republicans came up with the sequester. That was a LIE. That idea came from Jack Lew and the WH.

There are several statements Obama made about the sequester that were lies made to try and stoke the fears of the people. WH cleaners would lose pay/hours....lie. Teachers would be laid off...lie. TSA would be downsized, causing long delays at airports....lie.

There are documents from the Obama admin requiring different agencies make unnecessary cuts in order to make the public feel the pressure of the sequester.

I'm not a Bachmann fan. But I'm also not biased and blind to attack one side, but refuse to admit even one instance of the other side lying.

NDavid,
You are talking about sides and I am talking about individuals.

Bachman is a liar.

Jermyn Davidson 03-24-2013 09:38 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1237245)
I LOVE Bachman. It's an understatement but at least she gets what went down. Obama KNEW but turned a blind eye in Benghazi. I believe he is complicit.

Hoovie, what did Obama know about and turned a blind eye towards concerning Benghazi?

His Generals stated decided to not send troops. Do you want him second-guessing those experts who know more than him about combat operations?

What is he complicit in concerning Benghazi?
Did he want Americans to die?

Jermyn Davidson 03-24-2013 09:41 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237197)
Drama much? Pretty sexist remark imo....gain weight, join phone porn industry.

Since you made the benchmark with Bachman, does the same apply to President Obama, who lies about every time he opens his mouth?

Doubt you'll agree, but if the standard is applied to Bachmann, then the same should be applied to Obama.


This thread is about BACHMAN the LIAR.

You can start your own thread about President Obama.

The lies of Bachman can't be explained away when MOST of the lies attributed to President Obama can be explained away to an extent.


BACHMAN is a BLATANT LIAR and so very different from most Republicans!

n david 03-24-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237435)

NDavid,
You are talking about sides and I am talking about individuals.

Bachman is a liar.

Obama's a liar. You're holding his water and making excuses...

Jermyn Davidson 03-24-2013 10:16 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237447)
Obama's a liar. You're holding his water and making excuses...

There is a thread about the lies of President Obama.
You should post examples there.
I have posted examples of BACHMAN the LIAR.
Please, defend her, if you think she is defendable.

n david 03-24-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1237449)

There is a thread about the lies of President Obama.
You should post examples there.
I have posted examples of BACHMAN the LIAR.
Please, defend her, if you think she is defendable.

I didn't deny her mistake using the disputed foxnews report on Benghazi. I'm not a Bachmann fan, so I really don't care about defending her. I think she's looney. Why anyone would vote to re-elect her, I don't know.

What I do care about is your blatant political bias.

Here's a clue...(I'll even put in in caps for you) ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

Why do you think news orgs make fact checks?

And though I know you can't bear to admit it, Obama has made his campaigning and Presidency on lies, half-truths and inaccuracies.

Jermyn Davidson 03-24-2013 11:26 PM

Re: Bachman The Liar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1237459)
I didn't deny her mistake using the disputed foxnews report on Benghazi. I'm not a Bachmann fan, so I really don't care about defending her. I think she's looney. Why anyone would vote to re-elect her, I don't know.

What I do care about is your blatant political bias.

Here's a clue...(I'll even put in in caps for you) ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

Why do you think news orgs make fact checks?

And though I know you can't bear to admit it, Obama has made his campaigning and Presidency on lies, half-truths and inaccuracies.

Again, this thread is about Bachman.

Where is your support for the claims you are making?
I post statements and proof.
You post statements and no proof.

I've even started a thread with you in mind, but you refuse to post there.

If it is not worth your time to post there, how is it worth your time to post here?

Go to the Obama the liar thread and post examples of the lies of Obama.

All the blatant lies of President Obama-- let's talk about them.


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