Spiritual "Deliverance"
 

If there is such a thing as spiritual deliverance can someone please provide scripture and explain why Paul said, "we must mortify the deeds of the flesh". is this once and forever or a daily occurrence? Can anyone give an example of spiritual deliverance that wasn't the result of a made up mind and a determined will?

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I die daily is referring to his life was always in jeopardy for the gospel due to persecution. He faced death daily

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just looked it up you are right. i rephrased my question.

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You believe that without looking up the context?

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i was posting from memory, i corrected my question. if mortifying isn't on a daily basis why do we lust everyday?

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There is plenty of teaching about denying self for Christ. One cannot be a disciple unless he does.

12 Therefore , brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die : but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live . Rom. 8:12-13

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If we refuse to act on those lusts, we've mortified the desires (lusts) of the flesh.

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Crucifying the flesh is daily in the life of a saint however there is immediate and instant deliverance from spirits that have had folks bound. Jesus said He was sent to preach deliverance to those who were bound. Those chains that bound folks can be broken. I have witnessed alcoholics and drug addicted folks instantly set free. Suicide minded folks instantly delivered. One concept does not annul the other.
I do not believe sexual perversion is a normal work of the flesh where some saint has to battle with thoughts of perversion throughout their life. And to imply that it is really says you think homosexality is normal which it is not. The homosexual needs deliverance not appeasement.

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but refusing to act is mortifying and daily so we have not been delivered, we are in a daily battle is my point

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You skipped over elder Epleys post.

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ok, i can see deliverance from demonic oppression not being the same as daily mortification, but the issue is whether homosexuality is demonic oppression or daily lust that needs to be mortified. what argument to you have to show that homosexuality is demonic oppression and not daily lust? have you talked to homosexuals or are you basing that judgement on your personal opinion?

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I think it worthy of note that EVERYTHING we choose to do (or neglect/refuse to do), is the consequence of personal choice. We either decide to do a thing, or we decide to refrain from doing it. The choice is ours, alone.

Moreover, we shall be held accountable to God for all of our decisions, whether they be right or wrong. This is why I am persuaded that reading and studying the Bible to acquire knowledge which enables one to properly discern between what is right or wrong, is an absolute necessity.

We were ALL born utterly destitute of such knowledge, and because we are each of the corrupted "seed" of Adam, we inherited a 'natural' tendency to choose wrongly.

Such discernment, of course, cannot be successfully accomplished without the indwelling Spirit!