Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1239471)

What an awesome Palm Sunday sermon, preached by Bishop T. D. Jakes!

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1239555)

He is no Oneness. He has chosen to leave it behind for compromise with the Trinitarian position.

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1239555)

He is no Oneness. He has chosen to leave it behind for compromise with the Trinitarian position.

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1239591)

Well when he is among oneness believers, he pretends to be oneness.

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1239532)

Only when it is convenient for him.
He wafles when he is among trinitarians.

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1239591)

Well when he is among oneness believers, he pretends to be oneness.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239625)

Yes he is just like a lizard he changes with his surroundings.

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1239555)

He is no Oneness. He has chosen to leave it behind for compromise with the Trinitarian position.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1239632)

Jay,
I don't think he came to his theological stance overnight and neither do I think it was a flippant matter to him.

His theological stance isn't a symptom of personal compromise.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239625)

Yes he is just like a lizard he changes with his surroundings.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1239631)

I don't think he waffles. He has stated that he is a Trinitarian. That doesn't indicate waffling.




He doesn't pretend to be Oneness. He speaks and conducts himself in a way to facilitate fellowship. How else should he handle himself around his contemporaries, brothers and sisters with whom he doesn't see exactly eye-to-eye doctrinally?




Don't you think that you should watch what you say about preachers of the Gospel of Christ-- the same Gospel that saved you and I? He isn't like a lizard.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239853)

Jakes does not preach the gospelthat saved me. He is a hirling and leading folks to hell.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1239855)

With an attitude like that are your sure your still saved??? :drama

Originally Posted by Farfel (Post 1239854)

Didn't he used to be PAW, along with Noel Jones? I heard at least one of them is COGIC now. Is there any truth to this rumor?

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 654331)

In pages 210 to 217 Billy Cole has a section titled My Heroes. He says:
"I have had several heroes in my lifetime that deeply impacted me and greatly influenced my ministry. Every one of my heroes was a minister."

He starts out by telling about his Mother, then his father and then lists about 17 others.

One that he lists is T.D. Jakes. This is what he says about T.D. Jakes:
"Brother T.D. Jakes was a plumber and a preacher while he was in our fellowship in Charleston, West Virginia. It is phenomenal how he has become so influential today, so quickly. To the best of my knowledge, he has not compromised the message of the Oneness of God, water baptism in Jesus name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. We are proud that his children attended our church school, and that he and his wife were married in our church building. Some call him a compromiser, but in my opinion he is just full of wisdom regarding how to speak to people."

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239853)

Jakes does not preach the gospel that saved me. He is a hirling and leading folks to hell.

Originally Posted by Barb (Post 1239640)

I disagree...

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1239642)

Amen. And personally I heard nothing here that cause me to see his roots showing. He is very eloquent and his sermon was good so I am not knocking the message or it's content. I just don't see hwat you are saying?

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1239902)

You have lost your mind and are in grave danger. You should watch what you say.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239909)

Jakes does not preach truth. he preaches to please the crowd. I wouldnever say anything about a true man of God but Jakes is no mae of God.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1239904)

He doesn't mince words when he quotes Isaiah in calling Jesus the Everlasting Father.

Many, if not most Trinitarian preachers and even singers I've heard, leave that phrase out because it is problematic.


By the way Sir, you really shouldn't "Amen" calling Bishop Jakes a lizard. You wouldn't call him that in your own post because you have too much wisdom for that kind of nonsense.

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1239918)

Yup.., he has his speech and his preaching WITH enticing words of man's wisdom, but NOT in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239909)

Jakes does not preach truth. he preaches to please the crowd. I would never say anything about a true man of God but Jakes is no man of God.

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1239985)

True. he is a sellout.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239909)

Jakes does not preach truth. he preaches to please the crowd. I would never say anything about a true man of God but Jakes is no man of God.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239909)

Jakes does not preach truth. he preaches to please the crowd. I would never say anything about a true man of God but Jakes is no man of God.

Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1239980)

Just to clarify something that's constantly misquoted by many. Isaiah say that Jesus was the Everlasting Father.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Read it carefully....without using oneness pentecostal spectacles.

Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1239980)

Just to clarify something that's constantly misquoted by many. Isaiah say that Jesus was the Everlasting Father.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Read it carefully....without using oneness pentecostal spectacles.

Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 1240028)

I see what you mean!!! I put down my oneness Pentecostal spectacles, put on some false doctrine specticals, twisted the scripture to fit multiple gods and there it was...:happydance

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1239625)

Yes he is just like a lizard he changes with his surroundings.

Originally Posted by Arphaxad (Post 1240036)

If you're going to label someone, at least get it right. It's chameleon, not lizard. Huge difference.

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted (Post 1240045)

Sorry to me it is a lizard that changes colors to match it's surrounding. Just like Fakes does.