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bishoph 04-21-2013 10:18 PM

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A conspiracy theorist......well I guess all of us are to an extent.....however, it does seem pretty strange to me how our government and media has tried to hide some key facts about this Boston Bombing situation.

I realize that Glenn Beck has some pretty far out there views for some.... but what I have noticed is that he is well researched and seldom makes claims that he cannot back up with hard evidence. In this video http://youtu.be/PODZaaMTwfg he issues a challenge to the administration.....I guess we'll see tomorrow if he is just trying to boos his ratings or if he really has something.

BTW, I simply do NOT trust anything this government says. They are IMO the most perverse administration the USA has ever seen. They have military ammo plants where they manufacture any ammo the government needs, yet they are (DHS) requisitioning millions of rounds of ammo from the private sector (wonder why there is a shortage of ammo for the public) and storing it in warehouses. Why? To use against the American People? To keep it out of the hands of an armed nation and prevent them from resisting a corrupt government? Or is it simply because they "need" the rounds for "practice & training" purposes?

Praxeas 04-22-2013 12:28 AM

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Can you be specific as to what the media and government did not tell us?

Ferd 04-22-2013 08:27 AM

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i didnt look at the vid... not a big Beck fan for some reason....


However, there is one thing about this that really does bother me.

The first person that was a suspect was deemed to be clear and not a suspect pretty quickly.

Then the President had a meeting with the Foreign Sec. of Saudi Arabia (where this kid is from). That meeting was off book. Then the SEc of State had a meeting with this same guy. That meeting had been set to be on the record with the media involved. Then the administration, made it closed door.


Then the next day, this kid who was the first suspect was deported for "national security reasons".

No one from the Obama administration has said a single word about this. Something just does not seem right about this.

The media was on it early, but has clammed up totally.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1244898)
i didnt look at the vid... not a big Beck fan for some reason....


However, there is one thing about this that really does bother me.

The first person that was a suspect was deemed to be clear and not a suspect pretty quickly.

Then the President had a meeting with the Foreign Sec. of Saudi Arabia (where this kid is from). That meeting was off book. Then the SEc of State had a meeting with this same guy. That meeting had been set to be on the record with the media involved. Then the administration, made it closed door.


Then the next day, this kid who was the first suspect was deported for "national security reasons".

No one from the Obama administration has said a single word about this. Something just does not seem right about this.

The media was on it early, but has clammed up totally.

Where are you getting that information?

bbyrd009 04-22-2013 12:06 PM

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Lol, I haven't followed it, but I'm not surprised. 911 all over again. This is why Scripture says that you can be a citizen of a country, or a subject of the kingdom, but you can't be both. Um, imo.

n david 04-22-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1244898)
i didnt look at the vid... not a big Beck fan for some reason....

However, there is one thing about this that really does bother me.

The first person that was a suspect was deemed to be clear and not a suspect pretty quickly.

Then the President had a meeting with the Foreign Sec. of Saudi Arabia (where this kid is from). That meeting was off book. Then the SEc of State had a meeting with this same guy. That meeting had been set to be on the record with the media involved. Then the administration, made it closed door.

Then the next day, this kid who was the first suspect was deported for "national security reasons".

No one from the Obama administration has said a single word about this. Something just does not seem right about this.

The media was on it early, but has clammed up totally.

The media was indeed all over this at the beginning, during all the chaos directly proceeding the bombing. And you're right, within hours it suddenly goes silent and there's a whisper of a meeting between Obama and some Saudi official.

It stinks to high heaven. SA should be on a watch list with heavy scrutiny, yet next year the US State Dept will be opening an express lane for visitors from that country.

It's absurd.

Ferd 04-22-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1244949)
Where are you getting that information?

I heard all of this last week during the wall to wall coverage on the TV shows.

Dont remember where exactly, but I do remember hearing some hard news guy really giving the whitehouse spokesman the business over Kerry's meeting with the Saudi foreign minister going dark. He was quite persistant, but was stonewalled.

Then the report came out the next day that the Saudi national that was first a suspect then not a suspect, was being deported "for national security concerns".

all of that was reported openely. now no one is talking about it.


Let me poke around and do some google research.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1244955)
The media was indeed all over this at the beginning, during all the chaos directly proceeding the bombing. And you're right, within hours it suddenly goes silent and there's a whisper of a meeting between Obama and some Saudi official.

It stinks to high heaven. SA should be on a watch list with heavy scrutiny, yet next year the US State Dept will be opening an express lane for visitors from that country.

It's absurd.

Where are you getting this information? I heard about there being one initial suspect, the Saudi national. But where does this other information come from? The Whispers? And what's wrong with a meeting with an nation's allies?

Maybe they are on a watch list and this guy was clean? Just because he is a Saudi does not make him a terrorist.

Again I ask where are you guys getting this info?

Ferd 04-22-2013 12:24 PM

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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/04/18...orted-national

Praxeas 04-22-2013 12:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1244958)
I heard all of this last week during the wall to wall coverage on the TV shows.

Dont remember where exactly, but I do remember hearing some hard news guy really giving the whitehouse spokesman the business over Kerry's meeting with the Saudi foreign minister going dark. He was quite persistant, but was stonewalled.

Then the report came out the next day that the Saudi national that was first a suspect then not a suspect, was being deported "for national security concerns".

all of that was reported openely. now no one is talking about it.


Let me poke around and do some google research.

I heard one thing and one thing only, that there was a Saudi national that was initially a suspect.

Are all meetings between Kerry and foreign representatives public or for that matter any head of state? Even when we meet with the Israeli president or representative they meet behind closed doors then have an open door meeting for the cameras

Ferd 04-22-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1244959)
Where are you getting this information? I heard about there being one initial suspect, the Saudi national. But where does this other information come from? The Whispers? And what's wrong with a meeting with an nation's allies?

Maybe they are on a watch list and this guy was clean? Just because he is a Saudi does not make him a terrorist.

Again I ask where are you guys getting this info?


Im not saying he is a terrorist. Nor am I saying he was involved in the Boston thing.

I am saying that reports are out there that something strange happened, and NO ANSWERS have been forthcoming related to this from the White House.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 12:27 PM

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I read "Emerson learned of the news through a senior official in ICE, the agency that’s conducting the deportation, saying, “The question is why is he not being prosecuted as opposed to being deported.”

Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/04/18...#ixzz2RDa92iLI

Maybe the reason he was not prosecuted is because being a Saudi is not a crime and we have the video of the guys that did the bombing...

n david 04-22-2013 12:50 PM

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-meets...223009934.html

Quote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday and discussed the conflict in Syria,a spokeswoman said.

The meeting was not on Obama's public schedule.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1244964)
Im not saying he is a terrorist. Nor am I saying he was involved in the Boston thing.

I am saying that reports are out there that something strange happened, and NO ANSWERS have been forthcoming related to this from the White House.

What is "strange" That Obama met with a Saudi dignitary?

We are supposed to have ANSWERS regarding what we view as strange?

Praxeas 04-22-2013 01:04 PM

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"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday and discussed the conflict in Syria,a spokeswoman said.

The meeting was not on Obama's public schedule."

And?

bishoph 04-22-2013 01:30 PM

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1. An injured Saudi National was first considered a suspect......then

2. President BO has unscheduled meeting with Saudi official (these unscheduled meetings do NOT generally happen.....in fact it is EXTREMELY difficult to get an official meeting let alone a "happen chance" meeting.)...then

3. The Saudi National is not a suspect, not a witness, not anything even though he was there at the time of the bombing.........then

4. Instead of being prosecuted for whatever caused him to be a threat to our national security, a deportation order is issued........and

5. According to 6 congressmen (via Beck) the deportation order states the reason for deportation is "national security threat" specifically "relating to the Boston Bombing.

Seems a little fishy to me. It seems to me that the administration is trying to cover up Saudi involvement in this terrorist attack. Are the boys that were identified as the suspects the ONLY guys involved? Maybe......but my guess is probably not.......and if the Saudis are involved or if it is some kind of "wag the do" type of scenario, the administration and the Saudi's certainly would not want the sheeple to know.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 02:59 PM

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Via Beck.....says it all

How do we know he was cleared only after Obama had an unscheduled meeting with a Saudi official?

Are you sure it wasn't instead after he was interviewed by FBI and we started getting pictures of the actual bombers?

How do we know? Please don't cite Beck.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 03:00 PM

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Oh and being Saudi and being there is not proof

bishoph 04-22-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1244998)
Oh and being Saudi and being there is not proof

I agree, however, being anybody and being there would at the least make you a witness. Secondly, why would his deportation order state that it was due to a national security concern.......and IF it actually does say related to the Boston Bombing........why would you let a man like that leave the country?

bbyrd009 04-22-2013 03:41 PM

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You might balance your Fox news (I watch them, too) with a little Link TV news; just because it is called Al Jazeera does not mean it is in Arabic, ok? NY (or SF) based, I think...

Praxeas 04-22-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1245000)
I agree, however, being anybody and being there would at the least make you a witness. Secondly, why would his deportation order state that it was due to a national security concern.......and IF it actually does say related to the Boston Bombing........why would you let a man like that leave the country?

He was interviewed. They got his testimony. I don't know that he was deported. Maybe he over stayed his visa. I dont know there was a security concern especially if Beck says so...

bishoph 04-22-2013 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbyrd009 (Post 1245001)
You might balance your Fox news (I watch them, too) with a little Link TV news; just because it is called Al Jazeera does not mean it is in Arabic, ok? NY (or SF) based, I think...

I do try to get a balanced view.....I do not watch any TV news channels (an occasional clip here and there, usually when someone sends me a link) however, I do read extensively from many different sources. (mostly conservative)

bishoph 04-22-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1245009)
He was interviewed. They got his testimony. I don't know that he was deported. Maybe he over stayed his visa. I dont know there was a security concern especially if Beck says so...

Beck is only one of many who are reporting similar info about the same guy. (Fox News, Shawn Hannity, and several others.) Supposedly he is/was scheduled to be deported tomorrow.

The thing that again bothers me is IF his deportation order states it is due to national security concerns related to the Boston Bombings, then something is definitely not kosher. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

Esaias 04-22-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1245027)
Beck is only one of many who are reporting similar info about the same guy. (Fox News, Shawn Hannity, and several others.) Supposedly he is/was scheduled to be deported tomorrow.

The thing that again bothers me is IF his deportation order states it is due to national security concerns related to the Boston Bombings, then something is definitely not kosher. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

I just read a blog which claims info has come out showing this guy is actually one of Osama bin Laden's sons via one of his wives, and was the only son of his not present in Abottabad (sp?) during the raid that killed OBL. Also, this guy is supposedly OBL's appointed 'successor'.

The whole entire episode in boston this past week 'is definitely not kosher', to say the least.

Praxeas 04-22-2013 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1245027)
Beck is only one of many who are reporting similar info about the same guy. (Fox News, Shawn Hannity, and several others.) Supposedly he is/was scheduled to be deported tomorrow.

The thing that again bothers me is IF his deportation order states it is due to national security concerns related to the Boston Bombings, then something is definitely not kosher. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

But who is their source? Is it the same source? Are they quoting Beck?

Praxeas 04-22-2013 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1245034)
I just read a blog which claims info has come out showing this guy is actually one of Osama bin Laden's sons via one of his wives, and was the only son of his not present in Abottabad (sp?) during the raid that killed OBL. Also, this guy is supposedly OBL's appointed 'successor'.

The whole entire episode in boston this past week 'is definitely not kosher', to say the least.

This should clear up any confusion in the matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc

Cindy 04-22-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1245054)
This should clear up any confusion in the matter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc

My favorite commercial. :D

bbyrd009 04-22-2013 08:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1245024)
I do try to get a balanced view.....I do not watch any TV news channels (an occasional clip here and there, usually when someone sends me a link) however, I do read extensively from many different sources. (mostly conservative)

Ha then you are way ahead of the game. I'm finding the best news now in print, myself; and I think it is quite a bit better vetted, being more indelible.

Praxeas 04-24-2013 12:58 AM

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A senior law enforcement official with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) told TheBlaze Thursday that reports claiming the department was deporting Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi under section 212 3B (“security and related grounds”) and had opened an “event” (or file) on the Saudi Arabian national following the Boston attacks is “categorically false.”
The official also told TheBlaze that Alharbi was never in custody nor ever considered for deportation by ICE, but that the department does have a different Saudi national in custody being held on grounds unrelated to the Boston bombings.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...rically-false/


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