Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246108)

My son texted me today a picture of their Friday assembly. He told me that there were guys in skirts with girls putting makeup on the guys!

Because of all the buzz in the news recently about schools using various means and methods of inserting transgender and homosexual roles into the schools in an effort to make it seem "normal", when I received this text, I assumed that this was happening at my children's school. (I think MTD had posted an article earlier about a school pushing lesbianism.)

It upset me so badly, that I immediately jumped in my car, and headed over to the school. I was hoping to get there in time to get in on the assembly and see what was taking place myself. I didn't make it in time. By the time I got there, the kids were all out on lunch.

So, I walked into the office, and asked the secretary if she could explain to me what the assembly had been about. She told me that because prom was coming up, they were trying to teach the kids that there were other ways to have fun, besides getting drunk, and doing drugs on prom night. Sounded innocent enough.

So then, I asked her why the guys were wearing skirts, and makeup. She looked at me in shock, and said she knew nothing about that. I told her I had received a text from my son, with a picture showing this. She was shocked, and immediately called up the person responsible for putting together the assembly.

This teacher and I had an impromptu visit behind closed doors, and I explained to her my concerns. She tried to ease my concern, by saying that it was all done "in fun". They were trying to show the kids that there were other ways to have fun instead of getting drunk, and doing dope... and this was their example of how to have fun....

I was shocked, and I did let her know exactly how I feel. She, in turn, did not understand the fact that I did not think it was funny. She quickly brushed aside my concerns, and said it was all done in fun, and she really felt no harm was done.

I'm still in shock about this, and the thoughts of the teacher that it is "just a joke".... essentially insinuating with this "joke" that instead of getting drunk or doped up, just go dress up like the opposite sex to have fun????

How would you have responded had you learned this happened at your child's school?

Originally Posted by Livelystone (Post 1246126)

Big difference beteen dressing in drag and asking for a same sex kiss

But don't take the boys to Scotland......... over there the men get married wearing skirts. :heeheehee

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1246135)

I'd say this kind of goofing off has been done for decades. Seems like everyone is a bit sensitive these days in light some of the other recent incidents (which I do have a big problem with if they are being reported accurately).

Originally Posted by shag (Post 1246139)

Here ya go KBTW, watch this. Here's our annual high school "show ". It's called "big man on campus". One of our church family's sons even competed. ugh. A year later, my pastor finally mentioned "over the pulpit" the ignorance of guys dressing up like girls at our hs. We homeschool so it really doesn't effect us. But makes me ashamed if our pathetic good ol hometown of 13,000 people. These guys in this are sons of many "successful local doctors etc" so proud of their young men.
They all make me vomit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=relmfu&v=lGE0PmAoSiU

Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1246142)

Idaho has great homeschooling laws, take advantage of them.

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1246165)

The call what God calls an abomination fun!!!!!! And why do we care if this has occurred for years? Since when did God change His mind? It is still as much a sin today as it was then, and nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1246184)

Guys dressing up like girls has been pretty normal for skits and jokes in my experience. I doubt it has anything to do with a gay agenda.

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246187)

Tyler Perry will BURN in HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 1246185)

ILG, that is entirely beside the point. God declared it wrong, therefore, as God does not change, the edict against cross-dressing has not changed.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1246189)

I would imagine a bunch of men dressed as women pretending to be dressed as men would be DOUBLE bad.

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246192)

I guess the issue with me touched a nerve as my kids have been coming home almost every day telling me about gay/lesbian behavior going on openly in the school.

Then, we all know how much the gay marriage rights issue is being pushed on every level.

I've wrestled with how I should have handled the situation... on one hand, perhaps I should have stayed home, and not meddled in the situation, but on the other hand, I felt as though I needed to know the details, and be informed about what exactly is taking place at the high school my kids attend.

One thing good did come out of this. I did have a very long talk with both my children about this issue and they understand the underlying issue here basically is to blur the distinction of the sexes, and eventually for everyone to accept gay/lesbian behavior as normal and acceptable, thereby setting the stage eventually for gay marriage to be the accepted norm.

I gave them this example ... we are like frogs being dumped into a huge pot of cold water, and the temperature is slowly being raised until it gets to such a degree that we will have become so numb to what is going on around us that we won't realize our very life is at stake, until it is too late to do anything about it.

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1246204)

For the Love of mercy, I wish "christian" parents would STOP sending their children to public school if they are so afraid that some non existent "agenda" will be pushed on their children. If you worry about it so much, for Heavens sake, HOME SCHOOL them or send them to a "christian" school that shares your views.

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1246204)

For the Love of mercy, I wish "christian" parents would STOP sending their children to public school if they are so afraid that some non existent "agenda" will be pushed on their children. If you worry about it so much, for Heavens sake, HOME SCHOOL them or send them to a "christian" school that shares your views.

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1246207)

Problem is they already pay high taxes to send every elses kids to public schools to learn about sodomy, oral sex, transgender/homosexuality, condoms, various sex toys and other important educational issues and can't afford the high cost of private schools or for a parent to stay home and not work to home school....isn't that part of it? We PAY for that junk so Christian or not why should they be concerned? :throwrock

Originally Posted by MarieA27 (Post 1246223)

I'm wondering why does it even matter? People say that women can wear pants, and that they're not man's attire, so why would it be wrong for men to wear dresses, if it's not "women's attire"? If this trend becomes normal, and they start making dresses for men, what's wrong with it? Not every man that wants or desires to wear dresses is trying to push some kind of "gay agenda". Maybe they just want to wear it them, because it's more comfortable than their pants.


I remember that there was a similar such outcry back then in America, when women starting wearing pants, and now it's normal. If culture, society and history dictates what we can or can't wear, then there really shouldn't be any anger or what have you regarding this issue...

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1246191)

I think there is a difference between doing it as a joke and doing it for real. The only concern is, as KBTW said, is breaking down barriers. But then, being funny does often push boundaries.

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1246201)

There is so much stuff that goes on in schools. I don't know what I would do if my kids were school aged now. I haven't had to think about that for a while. It's a tough thing.

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1246243)

I have been told of college aged kids having to put up with people having sex in the next dorm bed right next to them.

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1246243)

What is weird about all of this is that it is considered so "normal" and you are the strange one if you think differently. Now, I would probably not be too concerned about the skit....but there are many other things out there that are very concerning and it seems there is just no boundaries or morals. Sometimes choosing which battle to fight can be difficult.

Originally Posted by MarieA27 (Post 1246223)

I'm wondering why does it even matter? People say that women can wear pants, and that they're not man's attire, so why would it be wrong for men to wear dresses, if it's not "women's attire"? If this trend becomes normal, and they start making dresses for men, what's wrong with it? Not every man that wants or desires to wear dresses is trying to push some kind of "gay agenda". Maybe they just want to wear it them, because it's more comfortable than their pants.


I remember that there was a similar such outcry back then in America, when women starting wearing pants, and now it's normal. If culture, society and history dictates what we can or can't wear, then there really shouldn't be any anger or what have you regarding this issue...

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246240)

Yes, I agree with you on this. Where will all this "gender blurring" end? With it being okay in about 10-15 years for men to walk around in skirts, high heels, pantyhose, and makeup? Men buying these things in the men's department? Is such a thing around the corner for the next generation?

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246246)

Wow. I hadn't heard that one, but somehow, I'm not surprised.




Yes, I'll admit that perhaps I jumped the gun with this one, but it was because of all the things my kids have told me. There are indeed so many other concerning issues, which make you wonder where the line gets drawn - where is all this taking us? That I guess is the dilemma we are facing.

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1246204)

For the Love of mercy, I wish "christian" parents would STOP sending their children to public school if they are so afraid that some non existent "agenda" will be pushed on their children. If you worry about it so much, for Heavens sake, HOME SCHOOL them or send them to a "christian" school that shares your views.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246242)

Home schooling is an option, but one that we've never considered because we've always felt that our kids need to learn how to deal with the "real" world while we as parents are there to help, encourage, and support them...

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246242)

I've seen too many horror stories of homeschooled children going to college, and spiraling into a terrible state because they had no social skills to deal with the issues that the real world throws at them. For that reason, we have not ever chosen to do home school, because we want our children to have the social skills and abilities to deal with the junk the world throws at them while we as parents are there to support and encourage them, and help them get through it.

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246242)

...Going to a school like this is no different than a missionary going to the far off corners of the world...

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246242)

In fact, my daughter and son both tell me that many of their friends confide their problems to them, because they think my kids "don't have any problems" (not true of course they are teenagers and aren't perfect) but these kids here know my kids will care and pray for them.

Many times during our family prayer, my kids are praying for their friends at school. I believe the Lord is doing a work through them, allowing them to be a light in the darkness.

It is for this reason that I feel the Lord would have us continue to allow our kids to attend this school. But at the same time, I just can't stand by and see this kind of behavior going on in such a public manner, without saying something. After all.... our tax dollars are paying for my children's education, and I do have a right to say something

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1246242)

I agree that years ago it was funny, because no one even considered it as a possibility of ever really taking place. Nowadays... a different story. This was my husband's opinion too on the matter.



Yes, public school education today is a far different thing than it was when I went to school. My kids are seeing things and dealing with things that I've never had to deal with. Two gay boys sitting at lunch next to my daughter discussing their "gay" activities. It makes me gag just thinking about what my kids have to see and hear every day they go to school.

And... this behavior is not just limited to public schools. I've looked into private schools in our area, and talked to other parents who have enrolled their children because of the same issues, and they didn't find much difference in the behaviors at private school, as opposed to public school. It is because the entire generational moral character has so declined.

Home schooling is an option, but one that we've never considered because we've always felt that our kids need to learn how to deal with the "real" world while we as parents are there to help, encourage, and support them.

I've seen too many horror stories of homeschooled children going to college, and spiraling into a terrible state because they had no social skills to deal with the issues that the real world throws at them. For that reason, we have not ever chosen to do home school, because we want our children to have the social skills and abilities to deal with the junk the world throws at them while we as parents are there to support and encourage them, and help them get through it.

Our family sits around the dinner table every evening, and discuss the events of their day. We pray together, and read the Bible together as a family. My kids share their concerns with us and we pray with them, and give them advice and try to find solutions to their dilemma within the word of God.

We have taught our children that they are to consider school as their mission field, and as a chance to be a witness to a dark world. Going to a school like this is no different than a missionary going to the far off corners of the world and teaching folks about Jesus. These children (for the most part) have no knowledge about Jesus.

In fact, my daughter and son both tell me that many of their friends confide their problems to them, because they think my kids "don't have any problems" (not true of course they are teenagers and aren't perfect) but these kids here know my kids will care and pray for them.

Many times during our family prayer, my kids are praying for their friends at school. I believe the Lord is doing a work through them, allowing them to be a light in the darkness.

It is for this reason that I feel the Lord would have us continue to allow our kids to attend this school. But at the same time, I just can't stand by and see this kind of behavior going on in such a public manner, without saying something. After all.... our tax dollars are paying for my children's education, and I do have a right to say something...

Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246294)

Really this is just a taste of what the world is like now. I sit in the lunch room at work and hear about people I work with having three-somes with their husbands and other women, watching pornos with their boyfriends, buying sex toys, etc. There is simply no shame in anything sexual in many circles now. It is noting for women to admit to having had scores of sexual partners when asked by the doctor (yes, it's a routine question at the GYN) and they don't bat an eye when they say it. I am asked weekly by a pregnant woman if there is DNA to identify the father of her baby before it is born because there is more than one choice and they want to know who to seek support from.

I personally don't think there is any unringing this bell. We just have to be aware of what is really out there and educate our children about sin and it's consequences. And we need to live in a way that they know we mean what we say and see how it has blessed us to live the way we do. They have to WANT this because there is ever other choice out there... and really no way to shelter then from knowing it.