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Aquila 04-30-2013 12:24 PM
The Apostle's Creed:
 
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 01:04 PM
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Having been raised Catholic I grew up saying this every Sunday in Mass. Even today I sing along with Third Day and don't feel any twinge of conscience for theological incorrectness. I can honestly say I believe it, every word.

And actually, we always said " One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church".

n david 04-30-2013 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246756)
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.
No. I know a lot of people are tripped up by the misinterpretation of #9 - "holy catholic church." They mistakenly believe it's talking about the RCC, instead of the "whole" or universal church.

Aquila 04-30-2013 01:26 PM
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I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246778)
I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.
All I can hear when I read the Apostle's Creed is the low, chanted humming I became accustomed to in the Catholic Church. So, no, I won't be incorporating that into my devotional life. I might start lighting candles. :heeheehee

In my 20 something years in the Catholic Church, I have never attended a Mass where any congregation recited, "One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church". It was always "Holy Catholic Church".

We WERE the church. Man, that sounds familiar. :heeheehee

houston 04-30-2013 01:46 PM
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In the RCC I attended as a kid it was "holy Catholic and Apostolic church."

houston 04-30-2013 01:49 PM
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http://orthodoxwiki.org/One_Holy_Cat...ostolic_Church

larrylyates 04-30-2013 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246778)
I've been thinking about adopting it in my devotional life.
There is nothing in the Creed that is inherently unbiblical. For the most part it follows the biblical language very closely. It was originally known as the Old Roman Symbol (or Creed). It was certainly NOT written by the Apostle's. It is likely dated anywhere from 100 to 200 A.D. and has been revised over the years to meet various doctrinal challenges, until reaching it's final form near the end of the fifth century.

It does not teach trinitarianism and there is nothing really objectionable in the language, if we define the terms in the same way the Bible uses them.

(Source: The Oneness of God by David K Bernard. pp 280-82)

I see no problem, although I would not use it myself for several reasons. Those are my own. As I said, there is nothing inherently objectionable. Certainly, not from a biblical perspective.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246791)
In the RCC I attended as a kid it was "holy Catholic and Apostolic church."
As a kid? I highly doubt you would remember the exact terminology used being a child.

I attended my father's funeral a few years ago and they were still chanting "Holy Catholic Church" during the Mass. What a horrible day that was for me to return so many years later for a funeral no less.

The Priest passes by our pew in order for us to receive Communion. We were sitting according to age, my oldest sister seated first. All 7 of us turned our heads to see what she was going to do. She shook her head no and he went down the line while we all put our heads down to refuse Communion. I'm sure my Aunt was highly ticked. :heeheehee

Esaias 04-30-2013 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246756)
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.
"He descended into hell' can be problematic if the meaning of 'hell' is not clearly understood.

"The communion of saints" seems to reference the catholic concept of the 'church triumphant', ie dead saints who still maintain communion with us - that might be problematic if understood in that way.

The biggest problem is this creed is not 'the apostles' creed' but was a later invention. Start off with a lie and where do we end up?

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246794)
I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.

http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=220

houston 04-30-2013 02:00 PM
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:thumbsup
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1246798)
As a kid? I highly doubt you would remember the exact terminology used being a child.

I attended my father's funeral a few years ago and they were still chanting "Holy Catholic Church" during the Mass. What a horrible day that was for me to return so many years later for a funeral no less.

The Priest passes by our pew in order for us to receive Communion. We were sitting according to age, my oldest sister seated first. All 7 of us turned our heads to see what she was going to do. She shook her head no and he went down the line while we all put our heads down to refuse Communion. I'm sure my Aunt was highly ticked. :heeheehee
I remember too much from childhood. Yes, I remember it as "one, holy, catholic and apostolic church." I also remember kneeling in a mass and thinking "I want to be a priest."

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246808)
:thumbsup

I remember too much from childhood. Yes, I remember it as "one, holy, catholic and apostolic church." I also remember kneeling in a mass and thinking "I want to be a priest."
I never wanted to be a nun. :heeheehee

houston 04-30-2013 02:01 PM
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Not every RCC is cookie cutter. There are differeces.

houston 04-30-2013 02:01 PM
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*differences

imreedemed 04-30-2013 02:01 PM
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I grew up reciting the apostal's creed in a presybiterian/anglican school and later on recited the Lord's prayer in a catholic school for years. Got so used to them i find it hard taking them seriously.. i'd much rather pray being led by the spirit :)

houston 04-30-2013 02:02 PM
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Cool story.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246810)
Not every RCC is cookie cutter. There are differences.
I agree. But I've attended a lot of Catholic Churches, i.e. regular Mass, weddings, funerals, in Texas over a 23 year span and never heard anyone recite "apostolic" in the Creed.

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 02:12 PM
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We also said "On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures."

I lived a Maryvale convent in LA for two years as a child... mass every day during that time... I'm pretty sure I have it burned into my brain.

... so yeah... I guess they are not as cookie cutter as I thought ;)

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 02:19 PM
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Guess it was not the original I grew up on... Here it is!

THE NICENE CREED (more properly called the Nicene-Constantinople Creed), came to us in its final form from the great Council of Constantinople in 381. This is the Creed which Catholics recite at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended in heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

houston 04-30-2013 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1246816)
I agree. But I've attended a lot of Catholic Churches, i.e. regular Mass, weddings, funerals, in Texas over a 23 year span and never heard anyone recite "apostolic" in the Creed.
Sweetie, Am from CA.

houston 04-30-2013 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246820)
Guess it was not the original I grew up on... Here it is!

THE NICENE CREED (more properly called the Nicene-Constantinople Creed), came to us in its final form from the great Council of Constantinople in 381. This is the Creed which Catholics recite at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended in heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Oh, weird. We did that one and called it the Apostle's Creed.

houston 04-30-2013 03:40 PM
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I was confused. Don't tell PO.

Pressing-On 04-30-2013 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246862)
Sweetie, Am from CA.
Awww, that was so sweet, I just got a cavity. :heeheehee

Quote:
Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246866)
I was confused. Don't tell PO.
:heeheehee

larrylyates 04-30-2013 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246820)
Guess it was not the original I grew up on... Here it is!

THE NICENE CREED (more properly called the Nicene-Constantinople Creed), came to us in its final form from the great Council of Constantinople in 381. This is the Creed which Catholics recite at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass...

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended in heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
While not always apparent to the average believer, this points to the problem with creedal theology. When we become more familiar with the man made creeds than we are our Bibles, our theology and understanding becomes distorted.

The problems with the above creed should be obvious to any Oneness believer. They stand out like a "sore thumb."

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 03:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by houston (Post 1246863)
Oh, weird. We did that one and called it the Apostle's Creed.
Us too... I'd say maybe it's a Cali thing but St. John Of The Cross in New Caney, St. Martha's in Kingwood and Holy Ghost Catholic church in Bellaire all do the same one I was raised on and they are all right here in Tejas

Hummm...

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by larrylyates (Post 1246870)
While not always apparent to the average believer, this points to the problem with creedal theology. When we become more familiar with the man made creeds than we are our Bibles, our theology and understanding becomes distorted.

The problems with the above creed should be obvious to any Oneness believer. They stand out like a "sore thumb."
Couple of issues with this statement... While we may all have 'bibles' now when the creeds were written this was just NOT the case.... and even the few living monastic lives who had access to 'bibles' did not have the 'bibles' that are on my bookshelf in 8 versions and on my computer in 29+. Much of religion was oral tradition. The creeds served to help believers remember in what (who) they had placed their faith.

You would have to show me the 'sore thumbs' here. I still love the Apostles creed an one of my biggest disappointments in DKB was the way he villianized those who wrote them as if their sole purpose was to screw up someones theology. Good grief.

larrylyates 04-30-2013 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246926)
Couple of issues with this statement... While we may all have 'bibles' now when the creeds were written this was just NOT the case.... and even the few living monastic lives who had access to 'bibles' did not have the 'bibles' that are on my bookshelf in 8 versions and on my computer in 29+. Much of religion was oral tradition. The creeds served to help believers remember in what (who) they had placed their faith.

You would have to show me the 'sore thumbs' here. I still love the Apostles creed an one of my biggest disappointments in DKB was the way he villianized those who wrote them as if their sole purpose was to screw up someones theology. Good grief.
As a student and now teacher of the History of Christian Doctrine, I'm afraid I have to side with DKB on this one. The creedal development was heavily influenced by pagan ideology and Greek philosophy. The story behind them is one of intrigue, political machinations and false doctrine.

Titus2woman 04-30-2013 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by larrylyates (Post 1246934)
As a student and now teacher of the History of Christian Doctrine, I'm afraid I have to side with DKB on this one. The creedal development was heavily influenced by pagan ideology and Greek philosophy. The story behind them is one of intrigue, political machinations and false doctrine.
I've read all three volumes of his History of Christian Doctrine. While I appreciate much about it and agree with the less than pure motives of many of the church fathers, I still believe that we had then exactly what we have now, your basic power struggle. Since the beginning people have been warring for their own views of God to be the most correct, the most accepted, the most popular and sometimes even the ONLY instead of the most.

Today when I read or speak the Apostles Creed and I am not focused on being theologically correct but rather I am reminded only of how many faithful, over millennia, have recited it with a pure heart and a genuine desire to be pleasing to God, I feel the ties that bind me to those souls who have finished their courses well... and I find no fault.

It is sad to me that many Apostolics have thrown the baby out with the bath water and claim so little precious church history as their own, essentially believing that the world was in apostasy for almost two thousand years until Azuza Street.

navygoat1998 04-30-2013 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246960)
I've read all three volumes of his History of Christian Doctrine. While I appreciate much about it and agree with the less than pure motives of many of the church fathers, I still believe that we had then exactly what we have now, your basic power struggle. Since the beginning people have been warring for their own views of God to be the most correct, the most accepted, the most popular and sometimes even the ONLY instead of the most.

Today when I read or speak the Apostles Creed and I am not focused on being theologically correct but rather I am reminded only of how many faithful, over millennia, have recited it with a pure heart and a genuine desire to be pleasing to God, I feel the ties that bind me to those souls who have finished their courses well... and I find no fault.

It is sad to me that many Apostolics have thrown the baby out with the bath water and claim so little precious church history as their own, essentially believing that the world was in apostasy for almost two thousand years until Azuza Street.
:thumbsup

Esther 04-30-2013 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246756)
Are there any "biblical" objections to the Apostle's Creed?
The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.
2. And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord;
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary;
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead, and buried; He descended into hell;
5. The third day He rose again from the dead;
6. He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
7. From thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit.
9. I believe in the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints;
10. The forgiveness of sins;
11. The resurrection of the body;
12. And the life everlasting. AMEN.
Who says this is the Apostle's creed?

StillStanding 05-01-2013 06:43 AM
The "apostle's creed" is merely the gospel in a nutshell. Remember that way back in the day, a vast majority of people couldn't read, or if they could read, they didn't have access to biblical writings. The creed was a way for the masses to memorize main doctrinal statements.

The creed is doctrinally correct, so I see no problem with it. The word "catholic" is confusing, so the church I attended used "Christian" in its place. Other churches may use the word "universal" or "Apostolic".

Since most people don't bring their bibles to church anymore, but look at the screen for a power point version, a creed is not a bad idea. Change the Apostles's creed to match your particular doctrines. E.g. We believe that woman should not cut their hair or wear pants! Ha!

Aquila 05-01-2013 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1246799)
"He descended into hell' can be problematic if the meaning of 'hell' is not clearly understood.

"The communion of saints" seems to reference the catholic concept of the 'church triumphant', ie dead saints who still maintain communion with us - that might be problematic if understood in that way.

The biggest problem is this creed is not 'the apostles' creed' but was a later invention. Start off with a lie and where do we end up?
I see your point. But the idea of Christ's descent into Hell is debated even among Apostolics. So, I don't see that as a deal breaker. And the communion of saints can mean many different things. The saints on earth? The saints on earth and in heaven? Now, I'm not convinced that we can petition deceased saints for prayer as the Catholics do. However, the Bible does imply that the saints in Heaven are well aware of what is happening on earth and indeed do offer up prayers on our behalf. Dead or alive... we are the "body of Christ".

Aquila 05-01-2013 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by imreedemed (Post 1246812)
I grew up reciting the apostal's creed in a presybiterian/anglican school and later on recited the Lord's prayer in a catholic school for years. Got so used to them i find it hard taking them seriously.. i'd much rather pray being led by the spirit :)
Amen... when it comes to prayer, me too! :thumbsup

Aquila 05-01-2013 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by larrylyates (Post 1246870)
While not always apparent to the average believer, this points to the problem with creedal theology. When we become more familiar with the man made creeds than we are our Bibles, our theology and understanding becomes distorted.

The problems with the above creed should be obvious to any Oneness believer. They stand out like a "sore thumb."
Essentially isn't a creed nothing more than an ancient "articles of faith"???

Aquila 05-01-2013 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1246926)
Couple of issues with this statement... While we may all have 'bibles' now when the creeds were written this was just NOT the case.... and even the few living monastic lives who had access to 'bibles' did not have the 'bibles' that are on my bookshelf in 8 versions and on my computer in 29+. Much of religion was oral tradition. The creeds served to help believers remember in what (who) they had placed their faith.

You would have to show me the 'sore thumbs' here. I still love the Apostles creed an one of my biggest disappointments in DKB was the way he villianized those who wrote them as if their sole purpose was to screw up someones theology. Good grief.
After I began to engage serious study, I was disappointed by much of what I was taught too. :(

Esther 05-01-2013 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1246998)
I see your point. But the idea of Christ's descent into Hell is debated even among Apostolics. So, I don't see that as a deal breaker. And the communion of saints can mean many different things. The saints on earth? The saints on earth and in heaven? Now, I'm not convinced that we can petition deceased saints for prayer as the Catholics do. However, the Bible does imply that the saints in Heaven are well aware of what is happening on earth and indeed do offer up prayers on our behalf. Dead or alive... we are the "body of Christ".
Why is there a debate? Doesn't anyone believe the Bible anymore?

Pressing-On 05-01-2013 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by imreedemed (Post 1246812)
I grew up reciting the apostal's creed in a presybiterian/anglican school and later on recited the Lord's prayer in a catholic school for years. Got so used to them i find it hard taking them seriously.. i'd much rather pray being led by the spirit :)
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Amen... when it comes to prayer, me too! :thumbsup
That is one important reason I wouldn't incorporate the Apostle's Creed into my personal devotion. After laying aside the rosary and repetitious prayer, it was very refreshing to know I could talk to God in my own words.

And being led by the Spirit is very awesome. Sometimes you will go into prayer and end up praying for people that you had no idea needed prayer and pray about things you did not have on your mind to begin with. Prayer is healing. Repetitious prayer is not.

larrylyates 05-01-2013 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1247001)
Essentially isn't a creed nothing more than an ancient "articles of faith"???
I can see your point. It does seem like a good way to implant doctrines in memory.

rgcraig 05-01-2013 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1247043)
That is one important reason I wouldn't incorporate the Apostle's Creed into my personal devotion. After laying aside the rosary and repetitious prayer, it was very refreshing to know I could talk to God in my own words.

And being led by the Spirit is very awesome. Sometimes you will go into prayer and end up praying for people that you had no idea needed prayer and pray about things you did not have on your mind to begin with. Prayer is healing. Repetitious prayer is not.
Amen!


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