People Don't Go To Hell Becuase Of Sin...
 

"People don't go to hell because of sin. People go to hell because they reject Jesus, but when you make a decision to sin, there are always consequences in the natural for your decision to sin.

Sin will not unravel your righteousness you have by faith, but it will unravel your life."

I found this statement interesting. I've quoted the preacher verbatim. What do you guys think about this? Do you agree, disagree, want to qualify this?

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Highly disagree with that statment. Please show me anywhere in scripture where the judgment is described where a person is said to judged on anything except his works.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

Let me hasten to add that though we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus we must remember that we must walk in accordance to His word:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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If people don't go to hell because of sin, then the whole Bible is a lie.

The Bible is not a lie.

Therefore the preacher is lying.

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Wondering what preacher made such a statement?

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Ok.
I understand these statements.

So when the Bible says the mercy of the Lord endureth forever...?

Could continued sin be the tell-tale sign of rejecting Jesus?

The concept of the statement in question was the preacher chiding "church folks" for driving sinners away from the hope of salvation with their words, attitudes, and actions.

Same preacher, same sermon-- "... Let the Holy Ghost work in their lives. GOD KNOWS how to get the [new] Christian out of the clubs..."

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Then why did Jesus say go and sin no more?

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:popcorn2

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So if the soul dies why does it go to hell?

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I can't agree. Why try to make people see they are sinners if it is not their sins that are sending them to hell?

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People were sinning before Jesus was born. People were sinning before they heard the name "Jesus".

2Ti 4:1 Therefore I solemnly witness before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who is going to judge the living and the dead according to His appearance and His kingdom,
2Ti 4:2 preach the Word, be instant in season and out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For a time will be when they will not endure sound doctrine, but they will heap up teachers to themselves according to their own lusts, tickling the ear.
2Ti 4:4 And they will turn away their ears from the truth and will be turned to myths.

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double-yikes.
Um, who told you that that was your job? :lol

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So, 'hell' has now been conclusively found, has it? You might take the preacher by his meaning here, and not parse to death his words. Your sins are forgiven; ergo, you will not go to hell because of them. Neither will the 'unsaved,' which you cannot define, either.

Wadr, you all might look at how steeped in the doctrine of Original Sin you have become, and stop supposing that you are qualified to...help. judge, lord-it-over; whatever, anyone else.

You might try approaching the next stranger you meet as though you had something to learn from them (you do; which is why God put them there); and see what happens!

Cyn, I know your Q was rhetorical, I was agreeing with you--I hope.

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Please tie your point and your scripture into the context of this thread in a clearer fashion, please- for my sake if no one else. :)

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So when the "old saints" would say to the discouraged non-overcoming Christian stuff like, "Just keep coming. Don't let the devil take you out of the church. Ride the altar to Glory! Just keep coming back to Jesus," were they mistaken?

Did that non-overcoming Christian have no hope of salvation in that current state of non-overcoming?

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That answers that..the answer is no. People sinning is the result of what Adam and Eve did.

Paul doesn't say just let the Spirit deal with people. He says to preach the word

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...which, trust me, most people are just not open to hearing.

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Paul often used the Law to "stop every mouth and make the whole world guilty before God" because "by the Law comes the knowledge of sin". Of course, we are referring to the unsaved.

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I'm finding little or no distinction between most saved and/or unsaved...and I get you, but the point I wanted to make is that no one...listens to? appreciates? ya, appreciates being lectured down to; and while I'm sure this is not what the poster meant to convey, I just wanted to bring up that this 'giving of the Law' should be--primarily at least--by example.

I'm sure that Paul was given for a type (zealot), but he nonetheless demonstrated his faith also; apparently unto death...it's the difference (to me) between seeing a 'sin' committed by someone else and pontificating, versus leading by example.