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Hoovie 06-02-2007 09:33 AM

TV Advertising proposal
 
If there must be any rules concerning TV ministry, I would be in favor of forbidding any reference to funding, or to collect money whatsoever, until the very end of the program.


Would you be in favor of a limit of a 60 second screen flash at the end of each airing. No voice, no telethons no crying for funding.

I think this would go a long way in establishing credebility and setting us apart from the showboaters.

Nahum 06-02-2007 09:34 AM

Bingo!

Here's the dirty little secret. The powers that be want advertising for this very purpose. Its not about evangelism. It's about a revenue source.


Promise.

chaotic_resolve 06-02-2007 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 138437)
If there must be any rules concerning TV ministry, I would be in favor of forbidding any reference to funding, or to collect money whatsoever, until the very end of the program.

Would you be in favor of a limit of a 60 second screen flash at the end of each airing. No voice, no telethons no crying for funding.

I think this would go a long way in establishing credebility and setting us apart from the showboaters.

I doubt most of the ads would have anything about offerings or other donations. Why would they? Most of the churches advertised around here simply show the service schedule, directions and maybe a short synopsis of their various ministries. Nothing about money . . . so forbidding or making a rule against it isn't needed IMO.

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 138444)
Bingo!

Here's the dirty little secret. The powers that be want advertising for this very purpose. Its not about evangelism. It's about a revenue sorce.

Promise.

I disagree. Mostly on the points listed above. I know many churches and ministers that either would or already are using ads and do so for evangelism.

Nahum 06-02-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 138456)
I doubt most of the ads would have anything about offerings or other donations. Why would they? Most of the churches advertised around here simply show the service schedule, directions and maybe a short synopsis of their various ministries. Nothing about money . . . so forbidding or making a rule against it isn't needed IMO.


I disagree. Mostly on the points listed above. I know many churches and ministers that either would or already are using ads and do so for evangelism.

Friend, there is a reason the name of Harvestime was changed to Media Missions. I have heard many discussions from high-ranking execs about the financial boon tv ads will bring.

And remember, I'm for the resolution. I just think they see dollar signs

Hoovie 06-02-2007 09:52 AM

My concerns are simply about nipping any new Hinn style ministries in the bud.

chaotic_resolve 06-02-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 138461)
Friend, there is a reason the name of Harvestime was changed to Media Missions. I have heard many discussions from high-ranking execs about the financial boon tv ads will bring.

And remember, I'm for the resolution. I just think they see dollar signs

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 138466)
My concerns are simply about nipping any new Hinn style ministries in the bud.

I could see what both of y'alls concern is . . . were we to have full-blown television coverage of services and ministries.

I just don't see why a church would put financial requests on an ad. My church wouldn't. Denominal church ads that I've seen here don't.

Now you could be talking about what the result of the ads would be . . . more visitors = potential members = mo money. Then you may be right. There may well be people looking at the dollar signs.

But that's not what was first posted.

Hoovie 06-02-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve (Post 138486)
I could see what both of y'alls concern is . . . were we to have full-blown television coverage of services and ministries.

I just don't see why a church would put financial requests on an ad. My church wouldn't. Denominal church ads that I've seen here don't.

Now you could be talking about what the result of the ads would be . . . more visitors = potential members = mo money. Then you may be right. There may well be people looking at the dollar signs.
But that's not what was first posted.


CR, The point is it is not about a small TV ad inviting people to church.

Those who are against the measure are right in this - This is about TV in it's entirety and whether Pentecostals should broadcast on TV.

Regardless of current wording, people like Baxter and Mangun want to have a "program" on TV.

I am not saying that's bad, but my initial post assumed all other AOF reference be removed first, and TV treated like other forms of media.

Monkeyman 06-02-2007 06:36 PM

If It's Just An Ad, It Would Take A Moron To Ask For Money On A 60 Second Spot, Sheeesh!!!!!

Hoovie 06-02-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 139059)
If It's Just An Ad, It Would Take A Moron To Ask For Money On A 60 Second Spot, Sheeesh!!!!!


Right. My point is, that's not the intent of those wanting to go on TV. Many would like to have programs.

Monkeyman 06-02-2007 06:40 PM

Hi, this is ______, pastor of _______Pentecostal Church, feel free to come on down to __________ street and enjoy a service with us...oh, and please get out your checkbook right now and send me 5 dollahs!!! Put your hand on that tellebision right now, yes you, yes YOU, the one with, back, uh, head, the one with pain!

Monkeyman 06-02-2007 06:41 PM

So now you know inent?

Sherri 06-02-2007 08:42 PM

I still say you can have a great TV show and NEVER ask for money. Ours has been totally funded in-house for over three years, and God keeps it on the air through supplying all the needs through our people. If it is a God thing, He will take care of it. If it ever gets to a place that we cannot afford to keep it on, hopefully we will have the good sense to realize that season is over and we will shut it down!

Hoovie 06-02-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 139231)
I still say you can have a great TV show and NEVER ask for money. Ours has been totally funded in-house for over three years, and God keeps it on the air through supplying all the needs through our people. If it is a God thing, He will take care of it. If it ever gets to a place that we cannot afford to keep it on, hopefully we will have the good sense to realize that season is over and we will shut it down!

This is way kewl!! Kudos to you!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup: thumbsup:thumbsup

Sherri 06-02-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 139298)
This is way kewl!! Kudos to you!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup: thumbsup:thumbsup

Well, it was a miracle the way it came to be, because God provided $100K supernaturally to start it and buy the equipment (in one day's time). Eddie never even wanted to be on TV. So we know if He ever wants it shut down, we are ok with that too.


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