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the law says 501s should be "exclusively" social welfare organizations. irs regs say orgs should be "primarily" social welfare orgs. irs regs are not in compliance with federal law. tea party orgs should never have been approved for tax exempt status. there is no issue here.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/n...26044#52126044

MSNBC is more partisan and opinionated than any other cable news. The Pew report documented that only 15% of their news is fact, the other 85% is their own biased opinion.

Lawrence O'Donnell is your source!? Really? You may as well have linked Obama as the source.

See, the problem (besides using MSNBC and O'Donnell as your source) is there was a scandal, it's not bogus no matter what your source says. Media Matters, a liberal org whose openly stated mission is to wage guerilla war against FoxNews, enjoys that status, as do hundreds of other liberal groups.

Come back when you have a credible source and a better argument.

PEW REPORT SOURCE LINK

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NYTimes LINK

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DM, Please note that Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission was a landmark decision by the Supreme Court in 2010. The decision cleared the way for many corporations and labor unions to file for tax-exempt status, allowing for the raising and spending of unlimited amounts of money.

It shouldn't surprise us that soon after the ruling, many filed applications for 501(c)(4) designation. In fact, the applications doubled.

What is a scandal is that during the IRS hearings six groups testified. Before the hearings the Republicans asked Democrats to produce their witnesses - no one came forth - not one liberal group was targeted.

Further, to say there is no scandal when National Organization for Marriage was targeted and their DONOR LIST was given to the Human Rights Campaign, WHICH is an organization in direct opposition to NOM. A computer forensic investigation showed the leak came from the IRS. Shameful!

They had a legal right to keep their donor list private as their members had been targeted in the past when their names were revealed.

Our Free Speech should not be hindered by threats, boycotting and harassment.

It is a huge scandal and I am not surprised that O'Donnell is trying to divert attention away from it. I still believe you like to yank our chains more than you believe this deceitful drivel.

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PO and NDavid, I am not going to spend hours of precious time scouring the internet to find an article just to win an argument on this forum that maybe 20 or 30 people read every day. attacking msnbc is not addressing the information odonnell provided. I am not sure of the technicalities between that citizens united case and the 501c4 law and neither am i going to investigate, but i think odonnell raises a serious issue and i wanted to share. a little chain yanking never hurt. just to let you know there is an opposition responding to all this scandal nonsense. nsa spying is much more of an issue in my view but you won't see repubs go after that.

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But I suppose you'll find justification for the liberal groups' applications being sped through.

Folks, remember that DM has a picture of a communist dictator with a raised, clenched fist as his avatar on this board. That's all you need to know. Sadly, it WILL come down to us having to defend ourselves from the physical violence people like him will try to inflict on us. We're past the point of no return.

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ODonnell??? REALLY, can't believe any word he utters.

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A portion of a news headline:

DM, that doesn't exactly sound like a NON-ISSUE to me! You don't hold 5 hearings for a NON-ISSUE. And there's more to come. For you to say that it's a non-issue at this point would be calling our Congressmen idiots who don't know what they're doing. I give them more credit than that.

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To people like DM, anything conservative should be not afforded the same rights as liberal America hating leftists. The fact is, liberalism is destroying this country, and even some liberals are seeing this, and changing their views. DM has a problem with conservative groups getting the tax exempt status, but seemingly not the liberal ones who were pushed through on some sort of fast track. Shows, once again, that liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

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you are just the guy to label mental disorders. are you oneness, trinitarian, arian? are you a holiness nazi or a greasy grace advocate? are you all of the above in a matter of a few hours?

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Tell me DM... do you believe in personal responsibility, or living off the work of others, getting all you can for free, and willing to make others suffer in order for you to get what you have?

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others don't "suffer" in liberalism. it is called shared responsibility. contributing to the society that made your wealth possible and helping those that couldn't be wealthy due to health, injustice or extraordinary circumstances. doesn't the bible teach to help the least of these? why do conservatives only emphasize half of the message? i am willing to stress personal responsibility and social responsibility, not just one. why do you advocate half of the gospel message?

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You know what is so sad about this post, you actually believe this nonesense.

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me and millions of educated christians believe "this nonsense." what is your excuse for not practicing the social teachings of christ?

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This is as skewed and wrong as outward dress standards and holy magic hair. :nod

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You cannot use any Bible verse as proof text of God's endorsement of a secular, socialist redistribution system, that only succeeds making everyone equally poor and miserable. As Christians, the burden is on each of us individually to share as God has blessed us, period. There is nothing in scripture about furthering God's kingdom by adopting a secular system where bureaucrats decide what constitutes "sharing".

Furthermore, society does not cause people to succeed.

Finally, the "gospel message" is the death , burial, and resurrection of Christ, his subsequent exaltation to Lordship, and how all the latter personally impacts us by way of the new birth. Compulsory socialism is not a part of the gospel. But i don't expect anything different from a guy who admires leaders in a country where there is a shortage of toilet paper.

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Seriously what scripture are you referring to? The one about a man to lazy to work is worse than an infidel?

Or the one about the poor you will have with you always?

I do not remember reading one that said steal from those that worked for what they have and give it to the lazy???

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how about this one? don't these verses describe the economic values of the democrat party?

Matthew 25:31-46

King James Version (KJV)

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

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First of all, these verses are not about economic systems. They are about what we are commanded to do as Christians. And the Democrat Party has a complete opposite philosophy from that of Jesus here in this passage. The Democrats are only generous with other people's money. The Democrat leadership are known to be some of the stingiest around when it comes to charitable giving.

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Jesus taught VOLUNTARY FREE WILL GIVING. He didn't advocate socialism. Taxation is not freewill giving. It's forced confiscation of other people's money with the threat of imprisonment.

Please get a brain and learn how to interpret scripture.

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Seriously??? This is your argument??? You stoop to name-calling??? :throwrock

I've read this entire thread, and yes, I know that you have attempted to justify your views, but name-calling has no place in civil discourse. :foottap

Yes, I also know that I'm brand new to this site, and I probably haven't earned the kudos or the right to speak out...but it is what it is. :nod:

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Yes...the Democrats are the Christians. The party who removed God from their convention platform, would fight to the death to maintain baby killing and happily embraces homsexuality and the destruction of the traditional family is the "Christian" party simply because they want to feed the poor...by stealing money from the rest of us.

As as been said many times Dedicated MInd should be DEMENTED Mind.

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DM. SMH. Total idiocy. You are pititful.