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n david 06-07-2013 07:43 AM

George Zimmerman Pre-Trial Hearng LIVE FEED
 
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Oh my word, is this guy the state's expert witness? :killinme

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:05 AM

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Whats he do work out of his home??

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:08 AM

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The Defendents witness yesterday would run circles around this guy..

n david 06-07-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 1258426)
Whats he do work out of his home??

It looks like a home or maybe he's in an office. It looks like there's a microscope behind him.

I should get a computer, videocam and some Russian voice software. I could be an "expert" too!

That clip they played earlier was terrible. Couldn't make out anything.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:16 AM

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:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny :lolBeen doing it for about 50 years..lol he is only 67....LOL

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:17 AM

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Defence is ripping this guy apart..

n david 06-07-2013 08:24 AM

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Seriously, Sony's Sound Forge?

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:25 AM

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Yea the Procescution needs to be burying there head between there legs and praying this hurry up and ends this guy is not helping there case at all..

n david 06-07-2013 08:28 AM

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Oh good heavens. And the Judge said yesterday's motion was a waste of time! :lol :lol

This is a joke. He just said he typed in what he thought was said and then used Sound Forge (which I've used before) to verify if the words HE typed were right or not.

Oh this is definitely scientific. According to his example, any tween in their bedroom could be an expert witness.

Judge should shut it down now. I was expecting something more credible. This guy and his methods are not.

n david 06-07-2013 08:35 AM

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I'm flip-flopping due to watching this pre-trial hearing. The state Prosecutors are terrible; and their witness today would just as well be a 10 year old in his pj's on skype talking about using his Apple GarageBand software to say whether or not his interpretation of unintelligible screams is correct or not.

If this is what we can expect of the Prosecution's case, Zimmerman will walk.

n david 06-07-2013 08:42 AM

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I couldn't hear a bit of what the Judge said before recessing.

KWSS1976 - did you hear what was said or what the plan is? Did the Judge suspend this motion as well?

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:42 AM

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He will walk anyway the pictures of his busted noise and head will do that just by themselves I am even really suprised to see this even in court.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 08:45 AM

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Yea they are in Recess so the witness can get the email together to send over that both the Proc. and Defen did not have and the Prosecution is not happy at all with that..lol. The document threw a monkey wrench in the Prosecutions game plan.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 09:10 AM

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They need to hurry up with this recess...ready to watch me some more funny...

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 09:11 AM

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back in session

n david 06-07-2013 09:17 AM

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I can't say how disappointed I am with this witness and motion. I was really interested to see how someone was able to extract "I'm begging you" and "stop" from what I've heard in the 911 call. And then to have this dude on skype talk about how he used Sound Forge, something available at Best Buy, and not just how he used SF, but how he had to type in what he thought was being said and had the software say whether or not it was accurate.

So disappointed. Waste of time.

n david 06-07-2013 09:19 AM

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Oh yay, he can count! :doh

n david 06-07-2013 09:25 AM

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I feel terrible, because this should be serious....but I'm laughing my rear off right now with this witness, the loud audio feedback, the annoyed Judge, the incredibly calm defense attorney - dude is slick, and the pros.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 09:29 AM

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Nice...questioning on the latest software version all they have to do is bust him out and say thats a old version and there is a newer version which there probley is and thats were they are going with this..

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 09:32 AM

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They are ringing this guy out...

n david 06-07-2013 09:34 AM

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This feedback is killing my ears! Ugh. Hahahaha...

(paraphrase)
Defense Attorney: "How much do you make off sales of this software"
Witness: "How is that relevant."
Defense: "Please ask him to answer the question"
Judge: "There was no objection, sir, you have to answer the question."

:killinme

n david 06-07-2013 09:41 AM

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You should read this...

"About those Audio Forensic Experts

It's about this witness. This reporter takes him apart.

n david 06-07-2013 09:45 AM

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I wanted to investigate this a bit further and looked into downloading the software Tom Owen used.

But this proved to be extremely difficult, a license for the software costs nearly $5,000.
Quote:

That’s a pretty hefty price to pay to test this software out…

After a few more minutes of research, I found out that the Easy Voice Biometrics web domain is actually owned by Tom Owen himself.
Quote:

So what Tom Owen is actually doing here, is using his own home-grown software to attempt to determine the similarities in speech markers between two radically different types of voice patterns and claiming that it is accurate “beyond scientific certainty.”
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I’m not sure whether the Orlando Sentinel author realizes it, but that could easily be construed as a conflict of interest, particularly when the software is currently being sold for $5,000 per license. There’s an extremely transparent profit motive for Tom Owen to promote his product in any way that he can, especially at that price.
I'm surprised the Judge accepted this witness as an expert.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 09:57 AM

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This is so gooooood.....:ursofunny

n david 06-07-2013 10:06 AM

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Is the Pros team still there? I'm surprised they haven't offered any objections.

Pros: I object!
Judge: On what basis?
Pros: Defense is obliterating this witness, your Honor!
Judge: Overruled.

Pros: I object!
Judge: On what basis now?
Pros: Defense is making the witness look like he got his degree and software out of a box of Cracker Jacks.
Judge: Overruled.

:lol

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 10:12 AM

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All the witness has to say is (I don't know).....

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 10:25 AM

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Please dismiss this witness, he is making the prosecution look so bad...

n david 06-07-2013 10:26 AM

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This "American College of Forensic Examiners" is a fraud. It's like going on Google to buy an Ordination License.

This guy is a fraud. Everything points to him. He has the standards on his website. He makes money on the sales of a program he used. He owns the website.

The Judge should deny the admittance of this as evidence. Defense is doing a great job of showing how bad it is.

And this is coming from a guy who believes Zimmerman is guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

n david 06-07-2013 10:39 AM

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From the link above...
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As recently as January, Owen used the same technology to identify accused murderer Sheila Davalloo in a 911 call made almost a decade ago.

How could Owen have been using the same technology in that case when the web site says the software was only released three weeks ago?
LINK SOURCE

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 10:57 AM

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Recess...time to go play

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 11:42 AM

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Defense brought there A game so far, the Prosecution don't know what they brought....O they know what they brought, they brought someone half wit that analizes voice recordings from his mammas basement using some Bestbuy software...:ursofunny

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 11:58 AM

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Playtime over lets get it on....

n david 06-07-2013 12:01 PM

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Wow...this Judge is actually on time. The Jodi Arias Judge was NEVER on time.

n david 06-07-2013 12:04 PM

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What is with the state witnesses not being there in person? First a Skype call, now the Pros says the next witness would be via telephone? This is ridiculous.

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 12:18 PM

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What is the judge reading? I did not catch that part..

n david 06-07-2013 12:37 PM

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Pros wanted the defense to give them their experts' statements and documents. Defense said it was protected information that wasn't covered by disclosure. The Judge ruled for the defense on the first set of emails; had to leave the room for a few minutes and missed the ruling on the second set.

I cannot understand what this guy is saying through the phone.

n david 06-07-2013 12:38 PM

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I bet this guy is at home too. Probably in his PJ's. With a glass of Scotch. :lol

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 12:40 PM

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Yea guy on the phone sounds like he has had a few...

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 12:56 PM

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West already makin this one look dumb too...lol

KWSS1976 06-07-2013 01:08 PM

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West has this poor witness so confused...lol


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