Serena Williams was Right?
 

Tennis player Serena Williams has received a lot of flack and has apologized for statements she made to Rollingstone Mag about a high profile rape case..

My question is, was she right in her first statements?

First off she did say she was not blaming the girl BUT...she added

"I'm not blaming the girl, but if you're a 16-year-old and you're drunk like that, your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people."

and ".. she shouldn't have put herself in that position."

I would say its just good advice for a young girl.

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I would too but apparently if you do say that people get all bent out of shape and accuse you of saying she deserved it. Crazy

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I think it's good advice.

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I agree its good advice, and I was thinking on something like this earlier.

The simple reality is its good advice to give to a non-victim, but the moment you tell a victim of all the mistakes they made that led to them being a victim in the first place you're going to come off as blaming them for even being a victim. Can't really escape that reality, especially when most people that is a victim to some kind of traumatic experience would probably rack their brains on all the "wouldas" "shouldas" couldas" that made them a victim in the first place. Essentially, on some level, they already blame themselves at least in part.

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I don't think 'blaming the victim' for being raped when they might have been able to prevent it is any different than someone taking out money and having it on their lap while they sleep on the curb. If someone comes along and steals it, well, ya shouldn't have had it laying out there for someone to take! This doesn't absolve the person who stole it, but you have to protect yourself from being an easy victim, and IMO, that responsibility lies in all of us.

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Perhaps Serena is a Muslim. They always blame the victim.


Someone didn’t get the memo that it’s growing increasingly uncool to blame the victim for the actions of the aggressors. Here’s a letter sent to the Toronto Sun from an Islamic street preacher who really doesn’t like them womyn having the right to dress as they want – because it puts them in danger, you see:

"I wanted to mention that the reason why these sex attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these sex attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being sexually assaulted in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets raped is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death."
http://preliatorcausa.blogspot.com/2...game-3683.html



She is absolutely wrong. Parents should never teach their children to drink in the first place - how stupid.
The victim was stupid but that does not give anyone else the right to be stupid.

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As long as we have a culture where blaming a woman for being raped is ok, rapists will continue to be absolved of blame.

There was a time in western culture when it was not acceptable for women to wear skirts above their ankles, drink, smoke, curse or even be seen out in public without a male companion.

Well, guess what? Women in those days were STILL sexually molested and/or raped.

Rape has occured in the history of mankind regardless of cultural dress code and acceptable behavior for women.

Serena Williams comments were idiotic to say the least. First of all, we don't know if the victim allowed the rapist to buy her a drink. We don't even know if the victim was 'drunk' per se. For all we know, the victim could have been drugged. ***There are rape drugs which give the appearance of a victim being drunk. *** Yet Williams makes assumptions without even knowing all the details. In short, Serena Williams should stick to what she's good at: playing tennis.

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If you read what she said, she did not absolve the rapists nor did she blame the girl. She gave practical advice in light of the fact that there are people out there (male and female) who will take advantage of a girl who is drunk at a party

She was incapacitated by alcohol according to the News reports.

Im not suggesting it's ok to go to a party but it's smart that if you do, make sure you go with people you know you can trust and will have your back.

It's a dangerous world out there and these young people need good practical advice to avoid being victims as well as perpetrators.

You said she could have been drugged...

Serena said "your parents should teach you: Don't take drinks from other people." SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ADVICE TO ME!

Serena didn't speak about how she was dressed.

The fact that women were raped years ago does not change the fact, it supports it...big bad world out there. We all need to be smart because humans are bad and will take advantage of you

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There is far more absolving people of irresponsible and stupid actions that put them in jeopardy than there is of blaming the victim in our culture. This girl was an idiot. Now, the guys who assaulted her were scum and they should have gotten a far stiffer penalty, but this girl should never have put herself in that position. You don't go to a party and get so wasted you don't even know where you are or what had happened to you until you see pictures later.

She is responsible for her actions just as those boys are for theirs. They end up in jail, she hopfully learned a very had lesson and will be responsible from now on. Maybe she will use it to try to teach other young girls to be more careful and responsible so others don't go through what she did.

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Hit the nail on the head with this. It would have been fine if Serena was talking anonymously about girls in general; I agree it's great advice. However, because she was talking about a victim, it was an insensitive and stupid statement to make.

Her non-apology apology was just as insensitive and offensive as the original statement, IMO. In the link given, she refers to what she "supposedly" said; making the insinuation that the Rolling Stone lied and made it up. Then she said the rapists "did something stupid." She didn't say it was wrong, at least not per the article in the link. She didn't say it was reprehensible. She didn't say anything other than it was "something stupid."

Tagging (spray paint vandalism) is doing "something stupid." "Twerking" is doing "something stupid." Yelling at tennis Judges and whining about penalties is doing "something stupid." Serena knows a lot about that. However, plying a teenage girl with alcohol, then raping and taking nude photos of her is NOT "something stupid."

Serena should shut her mouth about others and focus on her own issues. She's a home-wrecker. She's dating a man who is a husband and father and is now getting a divorce from his wife.

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absolutely correct! it is what it is ~ and at the victims age she knew better!

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I can read, thank you. Simply because she gave a "disclaimer", does not mean her words did not in some way place blame on the victim or make it seem like the victim has responsibility. You said she gave practical advice, are you serious??? Exactly how "practical" is her advice after a victim has been raped?? The rape has occurred, there is nothing that can do to change that. Just so you know, Serena Williams is not the first to give this so called "practical advice". Albeit, there are women who follow Serenas "practical advice" and STILL get raped. Truth is, practical advice on how not to get raped is not practical advice. Rapists will always find a way to seek out victims, alcohol or no alcohol.

Those were allegations, not proven facts. Witnesses say she did not have enough drinks in her system to pass out drunk. The victim also believes she was drugged.

The victim was with people she thought were friends. Is she to blame because she made a mistake in judging a person's character or intentions?

See above. There IS NO practical advice to avoid being raped.

Seriously?!? :ohplease So girls going to a bar shouldn't take drinks from the bartender to avoid getting raped??? Girls should bring her own bottle of alcohol to avoid being raped???

Of course not. But how a girls dresses, how much she drinks are all the same sorry excuses people use to justify a girl getting raped.

Again, see above. Women get raped regardless of where they are, who they're with, how much they're drinking, or how they're dressed. Its time to stop examining women's behavior to find ways women can prevent their rape and start making rapists take FULL responsibility for their actions.

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There are two sides to the coin, but in no way do foolish choices make the girl ultimately responsible for her own rape.

You could say the same sort of thing about a murder victim. "Why were they walking down that alley at night? Didn't their mother ever teach them not to walk in dark alleys by themselves?"

Such questions could have validity, but they're in poor taste and moot after something bad has already happened. They're in poor taste because they at least seem to remove some culpability from the perpetrators, and there's no excuse for alleviating any of that guilt.

Foolish choices can raise our risk of harm, but they still don't make victims directly responsible for their own harm. The perpetrator is always fully responsible.

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In this case she was right. Some rape cases just happen no matter what though.

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I understand where you're coming from but there is such a thing as practical advice to avoid being a victim. If there wasn't then there would be no safety precautions ever advised. We wouldn't advise children to not take candy from strangers, we wouldn't advise children and females of a sort of buddy system and many such like instructions. Yes there will always be criminals but you can't make a statement as there's no practical advice.

I understand telling a victim after the fact may come off as offensive and may be seen as blaming the victim for being a victim. But many rape victims later overcome and do talks to women groups to tell them what to watch out for and tell them what to do to avoid or prevent as much as possible what they went through also how to overcome if such an situation happen to them. So there's such a thing as practical advise.

In the end, there’s always going to be criminals and as longs as a crime can be proven in a court of law they’ll be convicted. But justice after the fact don’t erase the trauma from happening, preventing it does.

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This is not at all what happened in this case. In this case, Serena stupidly opened her mouth about a subject and circumstance of which she has no information other than maybe reading or watching about it on the news. She only said the guys who committed the despicable crime "did a stupid thing" (per the article), and then blasted the girl basically for causing it to happen.

And again, this is a woman who should mind her own "affairs," literally. A woman who's a home-wrecker, dating a married man and father and causing the family to go through a divorce.

Instead of offering "practical advise" to a VICTIM, she should be taking some advise herself and not split a family over her lust.

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Honestly I only scanned the article and just took some tidbits. Even though some people may not be in the place to give advice, don't mean the advice isn't practical or at least good.

Like I stated earlier, to a non-victim its most likely good advice, but to a victim it comes off offensive and appears to be blaming the victim.

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I disagree in part. I believe there is something called 'inviting trouble'. We teach our children to stay away from trouble. Why? Because something bad might happen to us that, if we'd done the right thing, it might not have happened.

A girl getting drunk and then getting raped MAY be partially responsible because she was partaking in a situation in which she was unable to control herself. It's no different than someone drinking then driving and killing someone. We don't ever say that because they were drinking and not in control of themselves that they aren't as responsible, do we?

No, I don't believe she is completely responsible or even mostly responsible, but as some point, we all have to take responsibility for our own actions, and if someone is partaking in an activity that leaves them less than completely 'with it', I believe there is a responsibility ascribed to that person for anything that may happen to them.

If we have money, we don't carry it in our hands for people to see, right? That's inviting trouble. No, it doesn't mean you 'deserve' to be mugged or robbed, but perhaps if you had carried the money in your purse or pocket instead, nobody would have mugged or robbed you.

I wish we all lived in the utopian society where everyone everywhere does the right thing at all times, but this is the world we live in, and to protect ourselves, we have to take certain responsibilities.

Years ago, my son had his bike stolen. I blamed him. I did that because for several weeks I told him that if he didn't lock it up, someone was going to steal it. Well, that day finally came and it was gone. Yes, I believe the person who stole it was wrong because it didn't belong to them, but if my son had put his bike up in our locked garage, I'm certain it wouldn't have been stolen.

Anyway, I'm sure I made my point. lol Clear as mud?

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Practical advice to ALL girls to PREVENT this from happening.

What's your advice to a young girl wanting to avoid being raped? "Tough, nothing you can do. It's gonna happen anyways"??

Houses get robbed anyways so don't lock your doors? That's your logic

All the more reason to be CAREFUL about who you hand out with and where you get your drinks from per Serena's advice

Nobody said she was to blame.

So just so you ladies know....you might as well unlock your doors at night and not worry about being out on the street late at night alone because you will get raped anyways and there is nothing you can do to contribute to your own safety? Serious? So you are saying DON'T try to prevent rape? That is asinine!

There IS, in fact, practical no brainer advice women can take to contribute to the prevention of being raped. You are wrong to suggest just because rapes do occur anyways women should not try to do anything to prevent them


Yes girls, you can trust the bartender to pour you a drink and not slip something into it according to Evenuntodeath. That's your great contribution?


Nobody mentioned how she dressed or how an other girl dressed. Nobody was justifying a girl getting raped. There is something wrong with you.

So your great advice is....don't worry about it ladies because you will get raped anyways? Nothing you can do? And you express contempt and lies for anyone that wants to try to prevent these crimes?

Nobody said women deserved it. You must live in a make believe world because THIS world is DANGEROUS and you can cut the heads off of a rapist and that won't change the nature of this world and the need to be cautious about where and who and what.

I'm a man and I take precautions in certain locations and at certain times of the day because I know how dangerous it is. Only a fool would through reason and caution to the wind and not seek to protect their own lives some how.

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Does that the translate into not taking any precautions? Of course not!

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Exactly. Im sorry but it's her sort of knee jerk, subjective reaction to label anyone that gives advice on how to prevent these things as someone who believes "She deserved it" that is detrimental to the whole issue of prevention.

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Practical advice to both men and women from the San Diego County District Attorney, San Diego County Sheriff's Department, San Diego Police Department, colleges, universities, the military, the Center for Community Solutions / Rape Trauma Center, the Sexual Assault Response Team and other community partners have teamed together to form the PRICE Coalition (Preventing Rape by Intoxication through Community Education). PRICE

RAPE BY INTOXICATION
Don't let it happen, and look out for your friends


Prevent Rape

• Face the facts: If she's wasted, intoxicated, asleep, or unconscious, she cannot give legal consent, even if she said "yes"
• Face the law: Rape by intoxication is a serious felony that can carry 8 years in state prison
• Drink responsibly - binge drinking is dangerous to your health, and can impair your judgment
• If your friend tries to take advantage of a woman who is too intoxicated or passed out, tell him to stop and explain that it's illegal and not right
• Pay attention to the warning signs including slurred speech and vomiting

Protect Yourself

• Stay with your trusted friends at all times
• Have a safety plan for you and each member of your group to get home
• Drink responsibly - binge drinking is dangerous to your health, and can impair your judgment
• Decide ahead of time how much you can safely drink while maintaining your good judgment. Stick to that limit.
• Don't accept a drink that is open, as you risk ingesting a date rape drug
• Never leave an intoxicated friend unattended, and make sure that you can count on the same for you. Help your friend by giving her water to prevent dehydration, and putting her on her side to avoid choking on vomit. If symptoms worsen, call 911 as she could have alcohol poisoning
• Always lock your doors and windows, and if you are looking after a friend, make sure that doors and windows are locked before you leave

http://www.sdcda.org/helping/prevent-rape/

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Quit blaming the victim Prax! :)

Your common sense preventative measures are offensive and useless since we all know rape cannot be prevented in any case or under any circumstances.

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We are specifically talking about Serena Williams comments. The advice Serena Williams gave "don't take drinks from people you don't know" is NOT practical nor is it even logical. In fact, its so vague that any young girl trying to avoid being raped would not even know what to take from it. Is she saying that women should not take drinks from the bartender? The bartender is a stranger. Should women not get drink or get intoxicated for fear of being raped??? Do we live in the 1800's?? My point was that Serena Williams comments were nonsensical and foolish. Women are just as entitled to go to a bar/party and have a few drinks just like men, if they so choose. And YES, they should be able to do it without fear of being raped. We are apostolic and many of us don't believe in drinking, but in no way would I impose my beliefs on other people nor take a self righteous stance when something horrible happens simply because the said person is living in sin. At the end of the day, the rapist bears entire responsiblity for the rape.

As for rape victims that speak to women groups, these are victims who blame themselves because we live in a culture which teaches rape victims to take responsibility for their own rape. Oftentimes these rape victims give advice on how to avoid being raped by strangers. If you look at rape statistics, the MAJORITY of rapes are NOT committed by strangers, its by someone the victims knows. How does someone avoid being raped by a family member, boyfriend, friend, or husband?? In the long run, this advice in ineffective. And why is this advice always directed towards women?? Why don't people lecture men on how not to rape women??

Of course, there will always be crime. But the problem with rape prevention advice is that it makes victims feel ashamed and prevents victims from reporting their rape. Studies show rape is highly unreported because victims fear being blamed or shamed. As a result, many serial rapists go scott free and continue to rape other women. Rape prevention advice does more harm than good.

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You're comparing apples and oranges. If you actually did your research, you would know the majority of rape victims are not raped by strangers, they are raped by someone they know. So exactly what sort of practical advice would you give to someone who was raped by a boyfriend, husband or family member??? After all these years on lecturing women, it hasn't made much difference in lowering rape occurrences. In fact, rape is STILL a huge problem on college campuses. Fancy that, huh?? So here's an idea, how about we start giving advice to MEN on A) how not to rape women, B) no means no, and C) when a women is passed out, its NOT ok to have sex with her.



Wow!!! So not only is the girl at fault for taking drinks, she is also at fault for someone deliberately planning her rape and slipping a drug into her drink. You hear that ladies???? Even if you only had a drink or two, not to worry!!! You are still to blame if a predator decides to drug you too. Nice.....

Serena's comments DID blame the victim. So what, she added a little disclaimer, at the end of the day she said the victim did not take proper precaution.

I'm saying that instead of directing most of the advice towards women, its time to direct more advice towards men.

Rape prevention advice has been around for a LONG time. Its NOTHING new under the sun. Rape still occurs at high rates nationwide in homes, in cars, in colleges and yes even in churches. So what now??? Its time to start taking a new approach and providing harsher sentences towards rapists and encouraging rape victims to speak out, instead of lecturing them after the fact on how they could of prevented their rape. That sir, is ASININE.

And what is your suggestion praxeas??? "Now ladies, anytime you go to a bar make sure you bring your own bottle of wine, cus you know that bartender could rape you and you would be to blame......"

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No, there is something wrong with YOU. How a women dresses, how much she has to drink are all the same old tired arguments used to lecture women on how they could have prevented their rape. Which, according to you is practical advice.


You express insensitivity and lack of compassion towards any rape victim, by posting Serena's foolish comments on this board. As for the rest of what you said, see comments above.

Anytime someone says a victim could have taken more precaution or done something differently, they are implying a victim is partially to blame for the incident. You can play with words all you want, at the end of the day, that is the message you are sending.

You live in make believe world and clearly have not done your research on the nature of rape or how rape occurs.

Good for you. Then maybe you too, can utilize Serena's advice in order to avoid being raped. After all, male on male rape occurs at high rates too. Good day sir!!!

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The Truth About Rape: It Can Happen to Anyone

When we understand the myths that surround rape we can more effectively help people heal from this traumatic, life-altering crime.

Anyone can be raped. This crime does not discriminate: No segment of society is truly safe from rape — men and women, the young and the old, and people of all ethnic and economic backgrounds have been victims. Although the legal definition of rape varies from state to state, rape is generally defined as “forced or nonconsensual sexual contact.” It is an act of aggression and power combined with some form of sexual contact. Victims may be raped by a stranger, an acquaintance, or even a loved one. Every victim copes with this traumatic experience differently, but there is one common feature in every rape experience: It’s never the victim’s fault!

Despite the past 30 years of increasing rape awareness and advocacy for victims, there are still many misconceptions about rape, and these myths can complicate the healing process for survivors. To help people who have been raped deal with their pain, it’s necessary to first address these myths and bring this topic out into the light so it can be discussed from a place of knowledge and compassionate understanding.

MYTH: The incidence of rape is exaggerated by the media and is not really that common.

FACT: In the United States, one in six women reported experiencing an attempted or completed rape at some time in their lives, according to the Centers for Disease Control. For women in college, 20 percent to 25 percent claim to have been victims of sexual violence.


MYTH: Women "ask for it."

FACT: Nobody ever wants or asks to be sexually assaulted. The idea that women deserve to be raped because they dress or behave "provocatively" shifts responsibility away from the offender and on to the victim. Every woman should have the liberty to dress and behave as she chooses without fearing that she is inviting sexual assault.

MYTH: Women who drink or take drugs often have a role in the rape.

FACT: We live in a culture that tends to blame victims, but rape is never the survivor’s fault. No one deserves to have been raped or invites sexual assault, even if the person has drunk to excess or exhibited bad judgment.

MYTH: Men can't be sexually assaulted.

FACT: Men are sexually assaulted. Any man can be sexually assaulted regardless of size, strength, appearance, or sexual orientation. Approximately 92,700 men are raped each year in the United States, according to statistics from the Illinois Attorney General’s office.

MYTH: Rape is committed only by strangers or crazed psychopaths who exist on the margins of society.

FACT: In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control reported that eight out of ten rape or sexual-assault victims not only knew the offender but stated that the crime was perpetrated by a boyfriend or girlfriend, relative, friend, or acquaintance. The overwhelming majority of rapists are seemingly normal people from a wide range of socioeconomic classes, occupations, and nationalities.

MYTH: Attractive young women are really the only group that need to worry about rape.

FACT: From an old, frail man in a nursing home to a young child, from a sophisticated urban apartment dweller to an impoverished rural resident, this traumatic and terrible crime happens to people from every demographic. Rape doesn’t discriminate on the basis of age, race, sex, or income.


MYTH: Rape is an impulsive act.

FACT: These crimes are not spontaneous, uncontrollable sexual acts. As many as 75 percent of all sexual assaults are planned in advance, often with the victim being targeted and monitored by the assailant.

MYTH: Women make up stories about rape because they want attention.

FACT: Rape is notoriously one of the most underreported of crimes: Only about 30 percent of rapes are reported to the police. Sadly, many rape victims not only fear retaliation by the offender but believe they will be judged by society for their falsely perceived role in the assault.

MYTH: A person who has really been sexually assaulted will be hysterical.

FACT: There is no “right way” to react to sexual assault. Sexual assault victims can be calm, hysterical, withdrawn, angry, in denial, or in shock.

Each survivor copes with rape differently. It is important to remember that there is no right way for a survivor to feel, and there is no set timeline for when a survivor should be feeling better.

Think of it this way: People do not ask to be mugged, yet every day thousands of people are accosted and robbed and barely know what hit them. The same is true for rape victims. Rape is an act of aggression and anyone can be raped.

http://www.drlauraberman.com/sexual-...uth-about-rape

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So because the majority of rapes happen by people women know women should NOT be careful and take certain precautions to prevent being raped by a stranger?

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So you reasoning is because a woman was raped by a stranger that goes to show she was NOT careful??

Who are we to analyze every rape incident to determine whether or not a woman used precaution or was careful???

Sounds a bit self righteous to me.....but of course, that is typical of people who call themselves Christians.


The truth is, these scumbags in the Stubenville rape case(which Serenas comments pertained to) TARGETED her. They didn't get drunk and impulsively decide to rape her, it was planned while they were sober. Her ex boyfriend was angry she broke up with him so he convinced his buddies on the football team to drug and rape her.

They urinated on her, took pictures of her half naked and posted it on the internet, posted pictures of their vile acts all over the internet for everyone to see. They took her in the streets and told strangers to rape her. This has nothing to do with lust or "boys will be boys" as folks like to call it. This was a deliberate act of hatred for the sole purpose of humiliation and vengeance.

I wonder if this happened to your daughter or sister......would you care to lecture them on all the ways they could have prevented their rape???

These young men deserved EVERYTHING they got in the court of law. This young woman deserves NOTHING but our sympathy if we are the christians we claim to be.

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No my reasoning is everyone should practice caution and common sense as outlined by the quote I posted by ths San Diego DA department to prevent rape by a stanger

And your reasoning seems to be that because most rapes are not by stangers women should NOT attempt to avoid being raped by a stranger....else why avoid answering?

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You say the young men got what they deserved yet we weren't even talking about that. That shows you are not thinking objectively.

And I believe they did not get what they deserved. The penalty was not harshh enough

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Your reasoning makes the assumption that women who are raped because they did not use common sense, and you used the Stubenville rape incident/Serena's statement to prove your point. Horrible example!!!


I did not avoid answering the question. In fact, I answered it many times. I have stated several times that it would be more effective on lecturing boys men on how not to rape.

I don't care if the caution statement were issued by the san diego police department or Buddha. There is no evidence to show that rape preventive advice has done anything to lower the amount of rapes which occur. In fact, there is no evidence to show that women who are victims were raped(even by strangers) because they did NOT take precautions.

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Serena comments were about the Stubenville rape case, its certainly within my rights to express my complete views on the case since this specific case was used as an example. It doesn't show anything except that I believe rapists should bear full responsibility for their actions.

If that's what you really believe, instead of posting commentary which focus on the victim your efforts would be better served by petitioning harsher sentences for rapists , no??

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My comments never once were about the victim. My posts were about prevention of becoming one.

You on the other hand don't seem to believe women should try to not become victims of rape....that is disturbing

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Again, the victim was used as an example, that is what Serena Williams comments were about. You hastily agreed with Serena Williams view without even looking into the details of the case. Therefore your comments also pertained to the victim.


The suggestion that you used for women to avoid being victims of rape would be ineffective, in my opinion. Now can a woman take self defense courses to fend off an attacker in a dark alley?? Sure. But again, even if she doesn't in now way means she bears partial responsibility for her rape.

Whats disturbing is your outdated view of how rape or prevention of rape should be handled. People who share your views are the reason why rape continues to happen in record numbers and why victims are ashamed of reporting their crime. That sir, is DISTURBING.

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Please answer the question. Are you advocating women take NO precautions to prevent rape?

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I answered your question. See above.

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Your portrayal of what I said is dishonest. I would appreciate you not accusing me of making statements about victims when you know I told you I am talking about advice to women who are not victims to prevent becoming one.

Second so you are saying the ONLY prevention is self defense classess?

Can you comment on that post from the Sa Diego DAs office and all the other professionals that supported and contributed to that list of preventative measures women take?