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Jermyn Davidson 07-10-2013 01:56 PM

We Are Blessed To Be Alive
 
We really are.

Just one of the many fleeting thoughts that come across my mind from time to time.

We have so much to thank God for.

Father, help me to be as grateful to You as You have been kind to me.

n david 07-10-2013 01:56 PM

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:thumbsup

odooley6985 07-10-2013 03:17 PM

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Yup. I was reminded of that today as we got the news that three of my employees were in a crash that killed two of them along with their daughter.

Jermyn Davidson 07-10-2013 08:14 PM

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How can a Christian be diagnosed with depression?

It just seems so implausible, on paper-- but it is a reality for a few Christians I know.


How can a Christian really, seriously contemplate suicide?
It makes no sense, right?

Remember the Pastor from Arizona?

I mean, how does it happen?

Is there anyone on here that has been through that and are now on the other side of through?

Was it medicine?
Was it prayer, fasting, and medicine?
Was it a shaking of oneself and then "presto" no more sadness?

endtimer 07-11-2013 07:34 AM

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I can speak on this, having dealt with depression in the past myself. Depression can be a physical problem. A shortage of hormones often brought about by great physical stress and lack of rest over a prolonged period of time. The addition of negative emotions such as anxiety, fear and or anger could serve as a catalyst for depression.

endtimer 07-12-2013 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1264894)
I can speak on this, having dealt with depression in the past myself. Depression can be a physical problem. A shortage of hormones often brought about by great physical stress and lack of rest over a prolonged period of time. The addition of negative emotions such as anxiety, fear and or anger could serve as a catalyst for depression.

:lol I guess that was a thread killer.

Esaias 07-12-2013 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1264858)
How can a Christian be diagnosed with depression?

It just seems so implausible, on paper-- but it is a reality for a few Christians I know.


How can a Christian really, seriously contemplate suicide?
It makes no sense, right?

Remember the Pastor from Arizona?

I mean, how does it happen?

Is there anyone on here that has been through that and are now on the other side of through?

Was it medicine?
Was it prayer, fasting, and medicine?
Was it a shaking of oneself and then "presto" no more sadness?

Prayer, fasting, faith, and the mercy of God.

As for 'how can it be?' David was often depressed. But God brought him out.

Depression is a normal human experience. We make it into something that consumes all things, giving it more power than it has.

It's okay to feel however you feel, but we should keep in mind that God's reality is superior to our fleeting, temporary perceptions.

Jermyn Davidson 07-12-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1265335)
:lol I guess that was a thread killer.

How is it that you were able to overcome this?

I am talking about a case of clinically diagnosed depression-- not a series of bad days culminating with a few weeks of being down on yourself.

Jermyn Davidson 07-12-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1265340)
Prayer, fasting, faith, and the mercy of God.

As for 'how can it be?' David was often depressed. But God brought him out.

Depression is a normal human experience. We make it into something that consumes all things, giving it more power than it has.

It's okay to feel however you feel, but we should keep in mind that God's reality is superior to our fleeting, temporary perceptions.

I don't think it is "okay" to feel depressed, as in diagnosed with clinical depression.

Neither do I think it is God's Will for any of His people to be depressed to the point of attempting suicide or even to the point of contemplating it for weeks at a time.

endtimer 07-13-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1265368)
How is it that you were able to overcome this?

I am talking about a case of clinically diagnosed depression-- not a series of bad days culminating with a few weeks of being down on yourself.

This a great thread as it highlights a major life lesson for me. That is the issue of thankfulness, a true attitude of gratitude, not just the obligatory "thank you" for the new blessing. Anyway, I do not have the 20/20 vision of my situation yet, that hind sight promises but I will do my best to answer your question.

I was diagnosed by my doctor as suffering from Major Depression. He also called it "burn-out depression". I went in to see him because I was always tired (I would sleep up to 15 hrs at a time), lost my energy, had migraine head aches, memory problems, lost interest in things that normally would hold it and I just wasn't feeling like myself. He told me I was suffering from depression and I argued with him as I felt hopeful and believed God for good things. Besides, God wouldn't let me go through depression. Right? For me, depression wasn't just a bout of the blues, it was a physical problem. A shortage of hormones, the doc. explained. At the time I pastored a growing and vibrant church, was teaching 3 or 4 home bible studies a week, preaching at home and out on week ends, add to that a full time job and a family to care for. I was just wore out but kept going on the excitement of winning another soul. The depression was at the very beginning of a 5 year long trial and lasted about 1 year a half. I will spare you all the details so as to not sound melodramatic, but I will say without exaggeration the thing wrecked me totally.

I overcame this thing by Gods grace, first of all. I reduced my work load, resigned my pastorate. I hated doing this but I was hurting myself and I didn't want to hurt my family or my church. I worked at forgiving those that hurt me (there were many). Out of desperation, I took meds temporarily and seen a christian counselor for a short time, and yes, they worked well for a time. My restoration was a slow, agonizing process with many steps. I firmly believe it was close relationships with God, my very patient wife and my understanding pastor that helped bring about restoration. "When a brother is taken in a fall, you who are spiritual restore such a one..." definitely applied to my situation. I found out it takes truly spiritual people to restore a broken brother or sister. Carnal people can only help so much, if at all.

Today, seven years later, Im a very different man. I am so much more happy and thankful. Gratitude has become an attitude and life style for me. I have given you the very short version of my story as there really is so much more to say about this. I HATED the depression and the prolonged trial after words but I would not trade it for any thing. Ive learned priceless lessons that will no doubt effect me the rest of my life and ministry. I have drawn closer to God and family through it all. Know this, this thing could have ended in tragic failure but I chose to cling to Jesus and he made to overcome.

Sam 07-13-2013 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1265444)
This a great thread as it highlights a major life lesson for me. That is the issue of thankfulness, a true attitude of gratitude, not just the obligatory "thank you" for the new blessing. Anyway, I do not have the 20/20 vision of my situation yet, that hind sight promises but I will do my best to answer your question.

...Today, seven years later, Im a very different man. I am so much more happy and thankful. Gratitude has become an attitude and life style for me. I have given you the very short version of my story as there really is so much more to say about this. I HATED the depression and the prolonged trial after words but I would not trade it for any thing. Ive learned priceless lessons that will no doubt effect me the rest of my life and ministry. I have drawn closer to God and family through it all. Know this, this thing could have ended in tragic failure but I chose to cling to Jesus and he made to overcome.

Thank you for sharing that.

endtimer 07-14-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1265624)
Thank you for sharing that.

You are welcome. Ive gained more than I ever lost in this thing. I sit in awe of Gods grace. If I can share and help someone else with this, it would be a joy to me.

KeptByTheWord 07-14-2013 10:52 PM

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What a powerful testimony Endtimer. Thank you for sharing hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel for those suffering from depression. I've never personally suffered from depression, but have close friends, and family who have. Having gratitude and thankfulness to the Lord goes a long way in taking a bad situation, and changing it into the "peace in the midst of the storm" hope that we can have.

Esaias 07-15-2013 09:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1265370)
I don't think it is "okay" to feel depressed, as in diagnosed with clinical depression.

Neither do I think it is God's Will for any of His people to be depressed to the point of attempting suicide or even to the point of contemplating it for weeks at a time.

Hey, think what you want.

David had all the signs of clinical depression, but God brought him out of it.

As He has many others.

houston 07-15-2013 01:38 PM

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Did God bring him out of it?

RandyWayne 07-15-2013 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by endtimer (Post 1265444)
This a great thread as it highlights a major life lesson for me. That is the issue of thankfulness, a true attitude of gratitude, not just the obligatory "thank you" for the new blessing. Anyway, I do not have the 20/20 vision of my situation yet, that hind sight promises but I will do my best to answer your question.

I was diagnosed by my doctor as suffering from Major Depression. He also called it "burn-out depression". I went in to see him because I was always tired (I would sleep up to 15 hrs at a time), lost my energy, had migraine head aches, memory problems, lost interest in things that normally would hold it and I just wasn't feeling like myself. He told me I was suffering from depression and I argued with him as I felt hopeful and believed God for good things. Besides, God wouldn't let me go through depression. Right? For me, depression wasn't just a bout of the blues, it was a physical problem. A shortage of hormones, the doc. explained. At the time I pastored a growing and vibrant church, was teaching 3 or 4 home bible studies a week, preaching at home and out on week ends, add to that a full time job and a family to care for. I was just wore out but kept going on the excitement of winning another soul. The depression was at the very beginning of a 5 year long trial and lasted about 1 year a half. I will spare you all the details so as to not sound melodramatic, but I will say without exaggeration the thing wrecked me totally.

I overcame this thing by Gods grace, first of all. I reduced my work load, resigned my pastorate. I hated doing this but I was hurting myself and I didn't want to hurt my family or my church. I worked at forgiving those that hurt me (there were many). Out of desperation, I took meds temporarily and seen a christian counselor for a short time, and yes, they worked well for a time. My restoration was a slow, agonizing process with many steps. I firmly believe it was close relationships with God, my very patient wife and my understanding pastor that helped bring about restoration. "When a brother is taken in a fall, you who are spiritual restore such a one..." definitely applied to my situation. I found out it takes truly spiritual people to restore a broken brother or sister. Carnal people can only help so much, if at all.

Today, seven years later, Im a very different man. I am so much more happy and thankful. Gratitude has become an attitude and life style for me. I have given you the very short version of my story as there really is so much more to say about this. I HATED the depression and the prolonged trial after words but I would not trade it for any thing. Ive learned priceless lessons that will no doubt effect me the rest of my life and ministry. I have drawn closer to God and family through it all. Know this, this thing could have ended in tragic failure but I chose to cling to Jesus and he made to overcome.

This is a good story. My depression started when I turned 18, and has never left. Sometimes it is only minor depression, but many times it ranks as 'major'. Needless to say I do get a little perturbed, as often make a big display of playing an imaginary violin for all to see, when I hear someone going "<sigh> I've just been feeling down lately because the devil has been attacking me. Please pray that I get the victory!". Such low-info people have no idea.

I've always lived by (well, since 1989 anyways) the wisdom of Capt Kirk.

"I need my pain.

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Esaias 07-15-2013 04:34 PM

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http://moonbattery.com/big-brother-is-listening.jpg

endtimer 07-17-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1265898)

Paranoia is often associated with depression. :nod

RandyWayne 07-17-2013 11:45 AM

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU3...0/Paranoid.jpg

endtimer 07-17-2013 12:49 PM

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:heeheehee


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