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n david 07-19-2013 01:09 PM

Obama: "Trayvon Could Have Been Me..."
 
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Obama and Holder won't shut up about TM. They keep making this guy out to be some choir boy.

First, Obama says if he had a son, it'd be Trayvon.

Now, he's saying "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.”

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Obama also said, “Reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. Once the jury's spoken, that's how our system works.”

Obama said he was "bouncing around" ideas with his staff on how to respond to the Zimmerman verdict, adding, "I think it is going to be important for us to do some soul searching." Pushing against Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, Obama stated, "If Trayvon Martin was of his age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?"

Finally, Obama went into the racial complexities of the Martin situation: "A lot of African-American boys are painted with a broad brush...If a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." He did say, "As difficult and as challenging as this whole episode has been, I don't want us to lose sight that things are getting better...We're becoming a more perfect union, not a perfect union, but a more perfect union."
What about Jaden Donald? What about Damani Henard, Ed Cooper, or Joseph Brewer, Jr?

So sick of this racist President pushing race as a factor. "If a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different."

Dear sweet Jesus, help me. This is working on my last nerve.

Pressing-On 07-19-2013 01:18 PM

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"35 years ago, I could have been a Smoking pot racist, fighting and beating up Hispanics."

Well, I don't know if he beat up any Hispanics, but we do know he was a pot smoking racist.

RandyWayne 07-19-2013 02:39 PM

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n david 07-19-2013 02:40 PM

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So I'm watching the video of Obama giving his views about TM, etc etc and I wondered....why is Obama talking about this. He knows it's a hugely divisive issue; he knows he's going to take a lot of heat for commenting on it and taking TM's side on the issue.

Then it dawns on me....Obama had to control the news cycle. This is BRILLIANT strategy by Obama and the West Wing of the WH.

Today it was announced that Detroit filed for bankruptcy; and anyone who pays attention in politics can well remember Obama's victory lap around Detroit, where he proclaimed that he and his administration did not let Detroit go bankrupt. Obama also blasted Romney for saying he would allow Detroit to file bankruptcy, that it would be a good thing for the city to do so. Obama jumped all over Romney's comments.

Well here we are less than a year later and Detroit is bankrupt.

So, Obama had a choice. Either get pummeled for his premature celebration, or be the darling of MSNBC and the blacks that he is and shift focus from Detroit to his "surprise" appearance at the WH Press Conference.

Good politics. Dumb Presidential move, IMO makes him racially-biased, small and stupid for taking TM's side; but a brilliant political move.

BeenThinkin 07-19-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1266428)
So I'm watching the video of Obama giving his views about TM, etc etc and I wondered....why is Obama talking about this. He knows it's a hugely divisive issue; he knows he's going to take a lot of heat for commenting on it and taking TM's side on the issue.

Then it dawns on me....Obama had to control the news cycle. This is BRILLIANT strategy by Obama and the West Wing of the WH.

Today it was announced that Detroit filed for bankruptcy; and anyone who pays attention in politics can well remember Obama's victory lap around Detroit, where he proclaimed that he and his administration did not let Detroit go bankrupt. Obama also blasted Romney for saying he would allow Detroit to file bankruptcy, that it would be a good thing for the city to do so. Obama jumped all over Romney's comments.

Well here we are less than a year later and Detroit is bankrupt.

So, Obama had a choice. Either get pummeled for his premature celebration, or be the darling of MSNBC and the blacks that he is and shift focus from Detroit to his "surprise" appearance at the WH Press Conference.

Good politics. Dumb Presidential move, IMO makes him racially-biased, small and stupid for taking TM's side; but a brilliant political move.


:thumbsup .... Brilliant observation n David. I totally agree!

Been Thinkin

Pressing-On 07-19-2013 03:00 PM

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What I walked away with from his speech is that the problems that blacks are having is going back to "slavery".

n david 07-19-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1266431)
What I walked away with from his speech is that the problems that blacks are having is going back to "slavery".

Right. I thought the same when he was saying that we need to consider the "historical" record as reason for the angst and anger in the black community.

And even when he talked about black on black crime, without naming it as such, he blamed the violence in the communities on anger stemming from the historical issues.

It was just a terrible press conference. Again, great thinking to take the press' attention away from and off of Detroit; but truly a lot of what he said made no sense whatsoever.

n david 07-19-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1266431)
What I walked away with from his speech is that the problems that blacks are having is going back to "slavery".

Oh, and when he mentioned something about if he saw any violence, he would tell them it stains the memory of TM. (paraphrased) I couldn't help but wonder if he hasn't turned on the tv or read the paper or if he's just in a bubble and his staff hasn't told him about the protesters who have thrown rocks at cars, attacked pedestrians and stopped traffic on the freeway...

Pressing-On 07-19-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1266437)
Oh, and when he mentioned something about if he saw any violence, he would tell them it stains the memory of TM. (paraphrased) I couldn't help but wonder if he hasn't turned on the tv or read the paper or if he's just in a bubble and his staff hasn't told him about the protesters who have thrown rocks at cars, attacked pedestrians and stopped traffic on the freeway...

I was glad he did interject that even though I don't trust him much.

Praxeas 07-19-2013 03:51 PM

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Someone needs to ask Obama if he would have sucker punched GZ and then Ground and pounded him

Pliny 07-19-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1266454)
Someone needs to ask Obama if he would have sucker punched GZ and then Ground and pounded him

The answer is yes he would.

He would do exactly what he is doing now.

He "sucker punched" GZ legally by trumping up charges.
Now he is doing the "ground and pound" by targeting GZ with civil rights violations and the civil suits.

Reports are that the Justice dept. paid for many of the demonstrations against GZ.

odooley6985 07-19-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1266431)
What I walked away with from his speech is that the problems that blacks are having is going back to "slavery".

He wouldnt know anything about African Americans and their slavery experience. I am pretty sure no one in his family genealogy was ever a slave

Sasha 07-19-2013 06:02 PM

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I'm puzzled as to why GZ has become the most hated man on the planet. There are much more vile people walking around in complete freedom that make me look like Mother Teresa.

If TM had killed GZ, GZ would have been hailed a hero and TM would have been tried as an adult and sentenced to life in prison. However, I doubt we would be talking about how GZ was killed because he was a white or Hispanic man in the wrong place, minding his own business and that if he were black, TM wouldn't have killed him. I also doubt the president would be continuing to speak against TM. I doubt white and Hispanic men would be stating that if they had a son, brother, cousin, he would look like GZ.

Ridiculous. Let it go already!

Sasha 07-19-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1266465)
He wouldnt know anything about African Americans and their slavery experience. I am pretty sure no one in his family genealogy was ever a slave

Great point!!!!

Praxeas 07-19-2013 06:39 PM

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I listened to him say how you hear doors lock when a black man walks across the street....Well I alwaysd lock my car door even when nobody is there or when there is someone of any color.

In fact people lock their doors if I am there.

Elevator and a woma by herself clutching her purse? Happens to me when I get on a elevator too and she is alone. I see the same nervousness too. Maybe if I wore a suit it would not happen

Sasha 07-19-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1266482)
I listened to him say how you hear doors lock when a black man walks across the street....Well I alwaysd lock my car door even when nobody is there or when there is someone of any color.

In fact people lock their doors if I am there.

Elevator and a woma by herself clutching her purse? Happens to me when I get on a elevator too and she is alone. I see the same nervousness too. Maybe if I wore a suit it would not happen

Also, don't wear your shirt that says, "I'm a felon." Also, don't wear the one that says, "I'm the nightmare your momma warned you about."

FlamingZword 07-19-2013 06:46 PM

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So is the president confessing that 35 years ago he was a pot smoking, gun brandishing thug??

crakjak 07-19-2013 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1266486)
So is the president confessing that 35 years ago he was a pot smoking, gun brandishing thug??

He was a thug community organizer less than 35 years ago, doing the bidding of the Daley pol machine!!

canam 07-19-2013 08:48 PM

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Would that it were Bo Bo ! When he mentions the 6 to 11 black on black murders each weekend in Chicago ,1200 for the year, then i will listen to him !

ILG 07-19-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1266428)
So I'm watching the video of Obama giving his views about TM, etc etc and I wondered....why is Obama talking about this. He knows it's a hugely divisive issue; he knows he's going to take a lot of heat for commenting on it and taking TM's side on the issue.

Then it dawns on me....Obama had to control the news cycle. This is BRILLIANT strategy by Obama and the West Wing of the WH.

Today it was announced that Detroit filed for bankruptcy; and anyone who pays attention in politics can well remember Obama's victory lap around Detroit, where he proclaimed that he and his administration did not let Detroit go bankrupt. Obama also blasted Romney for saying he would allow Detroit to file bankruptcy, that it would be a good thing for the city to do so. Obama jumped all over Romney's comments.

Well here we are less than a year later and Detroit is bankrupt.

So, Obama had a choice. Either get pummeled for his premature celebration, or be the darling of MSNBC and the blacks that he is and shift focus from Detroit to his "surprise" appearance at the WH Press Conference.

Good politics. Dumb Presidential move, IMO makes him racially-biased, small and stupid for taking TM's side; but a brilliant political move.

That's what I wuz a'thinkin'. Man, that makes me mad. Obama is making such racist comments, it's unbelievable.

Praxeas 07-19-2013 09:59 PM

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In a sermon delivered shortly after the September 11 attacks in 2001, Wright made comments about an interview of former U.S. Ambassador Edward Peck he saw on Fox News. Wright said:
"I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday. Did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox News. This is a white man, and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out — did you see him, John? — a white man, he pointed out, ambassador, that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Muhammad was in fact true — America's chickens are coming home to roost."[15]



"[The United States] government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to undo Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie."


"[The United States] government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to undo Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie."


"And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating her citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains, the government put them on slave quarters, put them on auction blocks, put them in cotton field, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God **** America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God **** America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God **** America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.."[21][22][23][24]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright_controversy


Titus2woman 07-19-2013 10:36 PM

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That whole speech was just... lame.

Praxeas 07-20-2013 03:31 PM

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I wonder if Obama would have done "Purple Drank" 30 years ago too

http://www.occupyhln.org/george-zimm...-purple-drank/

Praxeas 07-20-2013 04:50 PM

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n Indianapolis, the Rev. Jeffrey Johnson told about 200 attendees that the nationwide effort is about making life safer for young black men. Johnson said young black men still are endangered by racial profiling

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20...#ixzz2Zco1uJez

Talk about missing the mark...do more black youth die every day due to racial profiling? I don't think so!

Sasha 07-20-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1266560)
n Indianapolis, the Rev. Jeffrey Johnson told about 200 attendees that the nationwide effort is about making life safer for young black men. Johnson said young black men still are endangered by racial profiling

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/20...#ixzz2Zco1uJez

Talk about missing the mark...do more black youth die every day due to racial profiling? I don't think so!

Actually, I think it is profiling. They do it to themselves.

SOUNWORTHY 07-24-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasha (Post 1266562)
Actually, I think it is profiling. They do it to themselves.

I agree 1001%

odooley6985 07-24-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman (Post 1266522)
That whole speech was just... lame.

Actually its pretty spot on.

Praxeas 07-24-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by odooley6985 (Post 1266967)
Actually its pretty spot on.

In what way?

houston 07-24-2013 06:42 PM

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I agree with Wright.

Sasha 07-24-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1266991)
I agree with Wright.

Does that also make you Wright? :heeheehee

n david 07-25-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1266991)
I agree with Wright.

Wright's speech was as wrongly edited by Hannity and FoxNews as the Zimmerman 911 call by NBC. When I heard the clips of Wright's message, I was upset. I thought it was an outrage!

And then I found an audio clip of the the message and listened to it. While I don't agree with many things he said in the message, I had to agree with the part that Hannity and FoxNews were highlighting as bashing America. It was the truth. How can we truly and honestly say, "God bless America," and do so with a straight face?

I feel the same way about Obama's comment that "America is not a Christian nation." The majority of Republicans and conservatives threw a tantrum when he said that......but Obama is right. America is not a Christian nation.

odooley6985 07-25-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1266973)
In what way?

He is right. Read it and think on it. Study the civil war and thoughts on slavery. All men created equal was only right if you were white. It was a lie.

Sam 07-31-2013 10:08 PM

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If Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon.
If Obama had a city it would look like Detroit.
If Obama had a country it would look like Cuba.

n david 08-01-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1267638)
If Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon.
If Obama had a city it would look like Detroit.
If Obama had a country it would look like Cuba.

:thumbsup

Pressing-On 08-10-2013 04:57 PM

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Mural of George Zimmerman Shooting Trayvon Martin Unveiled in Florida State Capitol

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/u.../08/mural.jpeg

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...state-capitol/
No Zimmerman broken nose or head wounds. Nothing about self-defense. They sure are pushing this narrative. It's going to end up in national civil unrest.

Quote:

Black commentators sound off on racial violence
'Most are suffering not from racism from white folks but from lack of moral character'


Jesse Lee Peterson, syndicated talk-show host stated:

“I’ve been saying for years that white Americans need to get over their fear of being called racists. They need to get over this false guilt about what’s wrong with black people. Most black people are suffering not from racism from white folks but from lack of moral character.

“Black people have been encouraged to hate whites and to discriminate against them from the so-called civil rights leaders. And that is evil. The evil will get worse from generation to generation if you don’t deal with it.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/black-com...cial-violence/

houston 08-10-2013 08:05 PM

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Idiots

RandyWayne 08-10-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1269035)
No Zimmerman broken nose or head wounds. Nothing about self-defense. They sure are pushing this narrative. It's going to end up in national civil unrest.

If anyone in a hoody (or without) attacks me, they will feel some hot lead as well.

Praxeas 08-10-2013 09:14 PM

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JLP gets a lot of flack but he is correct on many issues. Is there another black man or women out there doing what he does?

Pressing-On 08-10-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1269051)
JLP gets a lot of flack but he is correct on many issues. Is there another black man or women out there doing what he does?

Two of the most outspoken that I know of.

Larry Elder who Tweets a lot every day.
http://www.larryelder.com/

David Webb
http://davidwebbshow.com/about/

Pressing-On 08-10-2013 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1269050)
If anyone in a hoody (or without) attacks me, they will feel some hot lead as well.

Hoping this doesn't escalate, but I'm with you.

Saw Obama double down on the "following" issue with Jay Leno the other night. He's doing that on purpose. Painting Zimmerman as a stalker and not that he was a Neighborhood Watch, watching his neighborhood. It's not his fault he was assaulted. There was no reason for Martin to sucker punch him in the face and then bash his head into a concrete sidewalk.

I don't know why they are not focusing on Martin's angry, aggressive behavior. Well, yes, I do know, but how stupid do people really want to be?


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