Why The Wrath Of God Must Be Preached
 

A stunning and timely message by street Preacher Jesse Morrel. He explains why no one can be saved without it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BPK3MFsP_U

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Ah, but Jesse Morrel doesn't teach that all people are born sinners, helpless, depraved, and unable to repent and obey God, does he?

Therefore, he shouldn't expect to make much headway here.

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Ahhhh... the preached Word is the vehicle of prevenient grace. No man comes to the Son unless the Father draws him. Supernatural power of the preached Word. There is power in the preached Word. There's more to it than trying to get people to make a mental assent to religious ideals. Something supernatural begins to happen when people hear preaching. Ahhh... the wonders of prevenient grace.

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I guess you did not watch the powerful and educational video?

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My purpose in this thread is to show that no one can be saved unless they first understand that they are a sinner. No one will be saved unless they know they have sinned against God.

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Sorry, from my perspective there isn't a dearth of sermons regarding the wrath of God. It's remarkable that someone on an Apostolic forum could posit as much and be taken seriously.

In my 45 years of life I have never heard one sermon on grace or justification by faith from an Apostolic preacher.

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Amen. The grand purpose of the Law.

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Amen.

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I feel ya. I've heard countless sermons that start out like this...

"Nobody wants to talk about it and it's never preached about anymore. Tonight... I'm going to preach to you about Hell."

The truth is... nearly every sermon I've ever heard was about escaping Hell in some way shape or form. lol

I've NEVER heard a sermon about Heaven and what the Bible teaches about our eternal home.

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The Law confronts a sinner and reveals to him or her the depth of their sinfulness and their utter hopelessness without Jesus.

Personally, I love street preaching.

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That's true.

Preachers who do so are nothing more than professors of escapism. Escapism is a poor substitute for relationship with God.

The sooner we realize eternity is now the better off we'll be. Those currently spiritually dead will remain in that state forever unless they are born again. Those who have been born again have ALREADY escaped Hell.

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Oh come on man...

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Well my perspective is one who has never been a member of a "mainstream" Oneness Pentecostal Church. The wrath I have heard from Apostolics would be over some "dress code" or someone forgot to pay tithes.

It seems when Apostolics wake up and realize the man made traditions of the Apostolic groups they always go backward rather than forward. They usually cant bear to hear strong preaching anymore even if its fully Biblical. Generally they become consumed with bitterness rather than going deeper in Christ.

One is not going forward if they minimize the wrath of God. Its woven all through the Bible and just as real as it ever was.

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O.S.A.S.

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I do not believe in unconditional eternal security but I do believe in assurance.

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Eternity is not now.

Therefore, brothers, be more diligent to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never stumble. 1:11 For thus you will be richly supplied with the entrance into the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 1:10

No one is yet in Heaven nor in Hell. If we do the things (in this life) Peter speaks of we will never fall.

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I do... Jesus said
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

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If does not realize they are a sinner in need of salvation by the grace of God,they will perish. Only the through redemption provided by Jesus Christ,will one be able to escape destruction.

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Heres why preaching the righteousness and wrath of God is important more than ever.

Kids are going to public school for 13 years. They are constantly taught that sin is right and righteousness is wrong. This was not so when I was in school. Everyone understood at least BASIC righteousness.

The Lords prayer started our day at least the first few years I was there. People developed a CONSCIENCE.

Down the road in life mens conscience was an ally to the preached word of God. Men knew they had sinned.

Enter today. After 13 years of being taught God does not exist except perhaps as universal mind or lately even "allah" the young person graduates with no conscience.

The problem is one cannot be saved unless he knows he is lost. That he personally has sinned against the God of Heaven whom he has been taught does not even exist.

It makes our job harder because very few now believe in sin and righteousness so we must convince people they are sinners!

Of course this is done by the Holy Ghost working on both ends the "witness" and the sinner. Nonetheless unless one understands they are a sinner they cannot be saved.

Our unpopular task is to teach men that God is angry against sin and there are consequences unless they repent! To tell them yes they will go to Hell unless they accept HIS WAY of reconciliation through Jesus Christ alone.

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I think the one thing that has been lost through the years is how much how much God does hate sin.

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Exactly. The Churches have mostly ceased preaching his righteousness.

Why did God anoint Jesus more than others?

You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows.”* Heb. 1:18

He loved righteousness and hated iniquity.

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I've been thinking along these same lines myself recently. So many think they're "saved"... it is hard to find a truly repentant sinner these days.

Someone cannot be "saved" until they realize they are in dire straits and need help beyond themselves. A person drowning cannot be rescued unless he recognizes that he is drowning, and begins to call out for help. Likewise, one who doesn't even realize that his soul is in danger cannot call out for help, until he first recognizes the danger he is in.

I do think the HOLINESS of God also needs to be preached. Not the "holiness" that most churches preach with the clothesline standards, but the holiness of spirit and heart that can only come from God himself.

It is easy to gloss over the good things about salvation, and leave untouched the things that would cause us to search our hearts.

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Amen! I see so many today that have no APPRECIATION toward Christ and no zeal as if salvation is something minor to them.

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Question? Have you ever told a stranger they are in sin? They will be lost without being born again through Jesus?

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Back in the day... When I was a young and zealous OP.

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I remember the "wrath of God" being one of the MAIN things being preached during our stint in the UPC. . . . That and the "wrath of God" being brought on anyone who questioned or rebelled against the pastor.

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I would bet more souls were being saved back then than now. The world is more attracted to the zeal of a Christian than to the lukewarm.

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The wages of sin is still death,and if one practices a lifestyle of sin and I things mean that the bible deems as sin,then that soul shall die.

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You got it Scott. The mainline Churches don't have a credible message of eternal judgment. They think of souls being tormented for trillions upon trillions of years....and that's just the beginning of their torment!

They themselves don't really believe that. Not by any means. That's why its not preached.

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If one does not truly believe in Christ as the scriptures has said,then that one will perish,and that's a fact. There is a vast difference in saying one is a soul,and in saying one has a soul.

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Some of the best Hell, Fire and brimstone messages I have heard came from a Church of God pastor in the Church that I got the Holy Ghost in the late 70's.

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People don't get it. They don't understand that AMIMALS have souls too.

10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. Proverbs 12:10

The word LIFE is SOUL in the Hebrew.

Are their souls immortal also?

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One never finds the term immortal soul in the bible,but you might this in Greek philosophy.

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The wicked be punished and it will be horrific and I don't if a human mind can comprehend how terrible it will be,but the good news if we obey The Lord we don't have to be lost.

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So did ANYONE actually watch the video? It is one of the most informative and educational messages I have ever heard in my life.

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I have saw it before.

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In today's society, the Psychologist's have people so messed up, that many don't know what sin is. They may know in their spirit, but their flesh looks for excuses, and they can find plenty.
They think, they're not sinning, just acting out some previous wrong thinking by their parent's, teacher's or other adults that wronged them in childhood. With some people, nothing is their fault. Pleasure's, and party, isn't that the normal thing today?

I believe sin has to be put pretty straight on the line. Not only what they are doing to themselves but what kind of life they will be living is this world, as well as the next.

But there needs to be shown both sides. Grace and Justification comes after they are born again. This should be taught without painting a 'bed of roses' for the Christian. But the “rest” they will receive for their soul.

Only God can send conviction, but even God can't get thru if they think they are just dysfunctional, and don't see their sins.

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Modern people say well we all have our issues,you know I have mine and you have ours,but I'm ok and you're ok after all I'm not a bad person I just have some bad habits but don't we all ? This is what kind of falsehood many believe hook,line and sinker.

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So, what you are saying is...

that...

...ALL DOGS GO TO HEAVEN

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I watched some of it, not all of it, interesting view of the gospel. I look to see those who allegedly have messages from God also have signs and wonders following them. Unless the power of the Spirit of God accompanies the message, whatever it may be, then the message is just philosophy, musings of men, clouds without water. There are a zillion philosophies out there with folks preaching that we should do this, shouldn't do that, here a little and there a little but what is missing is the power of the Spirit of God following the gospel. Screaming and yelling, red-faced and angry about sin simply doesn't work unless the power of the Holy Ghost follows the messaage. Running the aisles, jumping for joy (literally jumping in order to obtain joy some say), dancing, shouting the hair down (women only) doesn't do anything in presenting the gospel in power at all.

Selling books and promoting itineraries like an entertainer isn't laying hands on people and them receiving their healing while casing out devils. It's self-promotion due to the fact that the power of God isn't following 'their' ministry. Let healings occur as with Jesus and the Apostles and you'll have the gospel presented to the people by the thousands and thousands for they are literally dying for such ministry. Let there be the casting out of demons for all to see and you'll have the gospel presented in such power that it will bring fear upon people and deliver them from their oppression.

Reading a few scriptures and yelling isn't presenting the power of God. It's not presenting the gospel in power. Until this happens, however it happens, you only have men, most with good hearts I believe, attempting to present the gospel without power according to their own understanding. It's not life changing.

I'm tired of messages without power. I've heard enough philosophical sermons. Where's the Kingdom of God with power? Where's the men of God who are anointed and called and who minister outside the denominational constraints (UPCI and oneness organizations are included in the denominations). They're missing. Absent. And society is getting worse and worse and worse and God is being dismissed and mocked and ridiculed because of the characterchures which religion has produced. Mimickers. The mimicing the power of God without the power of God is typically what you see in the so-called 'Holy Ghost filled' building based 'churches' of today.

Preach the wrath of God you say? Fist you must ask where's the POWER of God? When that's present, following the message as in the early Church (Church, not a building and religious organization and romanist trappings) will be possible. Until then, it's just religious philosophical fun and games.