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Any ever experienced severe job related burnout? How did you deal with it? Change jobs? Take a different job maing less money/responsibility? I feel like I'm at the end of my rope (professionally speaking). I read an article on wiki about burnout that speaks about with the exception of a change in values/depression type stuff-I feel like my faith in God has kept me level headed, but mentally/emotionally I am tired, drained, unproductive, and ready to give up and move on. But if I do that I throw all stability out the window, I'd have to move out of my house, find a new job, would probably efect where I go to church, be a huge paycut no matter where I go, etc.
I'm wondering what others have done? Did you leave a job you enjoyed because you got burned out? If you did, did you ever regret it, or were you glad to move on? PS-yes I've prayed about it. Been praying, and will continue to pray. If you want to pray for me also I won't ask you not to. But in particular I'm asking whose dealt with this before, and did getting away from it help you or hurt you (did you have regrets) in the long run. Especially if someone left a job and immediately saw their income cut in half, if you did that, was it worth it? |
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Always know you options... Maybe look into other jobs DONT DONT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB! |
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I worked a Paper Mill for 16 years once. It was a great job making good money for me anyway. I just got where I dreaded going in every day. I lived in Ohio then.
I got the idea to move to the Somerset Ky area. Lots of chances to hike, camp, shoot, and fish. Maybe there could even be a real New Testament Church there! Well we did move. Things have not quite panned out here. Yes I got another job. It started at half my former pay. We bought a modest trailer here so no more house payment. Problem is the Churches here are far less spiritual than they are even in Dayton Ohio. At least seemingly. And of course much fewer. The place we wound up getting is about an hours drive from the National Forest. Does not sound bad but on what I make now it makes it hard to actually get out and enjoy it. We went from hiking at least once a month down to about once or twice a year. The worst thing is we have made no real friends here. I do have "work friends" but in 11 years here we have never had anyone come to our place to visit except people from Ohio. I think if I had it to do over I would not have moved. Seems like it would have been better to keep pushing on at the old job. Of course if the Lord is leading that's what one must follow. I have been working with mentally disabled persons since I have been here. That has been quite challenging but quite rewarding at the same time. My advice for people would GENERALLY be stay where you have family and friends unless you are reasonably sure the Lord is leading otherwise. |
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Not that you haven't done this already but sit down and make a list of pro's and con's. I have been at the same job for over 14yrs now - I make good money and it is only 4-miles from my home. I have thought seriously on a few occasions about doing something different. I love to work with my hands fixing and making things. I do get to do some of that on my current job, but mostly it is office related. That all being said, I have a wife and two children and I feel that the financial stability is a blessing to my home - also after 14-years I get a substantial amount of vacation, which I use to spend quality time with my family. The list will help you identify the positives and negatives and draw a clearer picture as to the motivation for change. Bless you Bro.! |
Words of advice given to me years ago: Don't close the door behind you until the door in front of you is opened.
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One idea would be to get trained in another field/area with your job. Just tell your employer whats going on and see if you can learn something new, or do something new, either while holding your current position or not.
I did this once and actually got a small raise :) |
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To quote Highlander, "I have something to say. It is better to burn out, than to fade away!".
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I've been on my current job 14 years... The job before this one for 8 with two brief (couple of months each) jobs between. Essentially I'm doing the same work in different places with some slight variations.
When I quit the first job in this field I was totally burned out and wanted a change. Going into another field was not an option because I needed the money I was making where I had education and experience invested. My first move was out of the frying pan and into the fire. I went from a place where I was burned out but had good hours and was trusted and respected to workring for a nut that paid better for a reason... putting up with him and his crazy wife in the office. The work schedule was erratic, management was unprofessional...and at one point my check wouldn't cash... That was the end for me. Then I took a job in a huge corporation... lot's of being treated like a number and micromanaging. So I felt fortunate to land where I am now. In my 14 years here I've had some moments of burnout... I just wait them out. I liken it to how long term marriage can feel... some days are diamonds and some are dust but if I am giving what I can there is always a way to eventually find satisfaction again. Looking back I would have been better off to have stayed in my first job... I'd have nearly 25 years of seniority now and would be nearing possible early retirement. Instead I took and spent my 401K during a period of unemployment and lower wage earning after I left and had to start over... Now I will need to work probably an additional 10 or 15 years to make up for that. If you are making a good wage and have good job security in the current climate you have gold... Maybe a change of attitude and gratitude would help? |
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Another option is go volunteer for a few weekends.... Find a group that goes out to homeless camps, we did & you will get a new outlook & appreciate life (even your boring job) SOOOooooo much more
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It is so hard to make a change because you just don't know what you are going into. As they say, sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. I made a big change in my life last year with attempting to go to nursing school. I felt like it was God's will for my life and I learned a great deal about myself and others and found a job in my original field immediately after leaving nursing school over a change in policy, which was a God-send. I think I did what I was supposed to do. However, I have lost some things as well. It's too bad we can't pick and choose the good from all places.
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I had yet another thought for you Jason... Have you considered starting your own business? I did that during a slump time at my husbands present job when he was sure he wanted out sooner rather than later... We bought a farm and began farming, using our higher earning potential to finance it.
We have just gotten to the point that Don could 'retire' to the farm as we're in a position to ramp up to replacing his income. That was a real possibility recently when he had surgery and it looked like he would not make it back before the end of his FMLA caused him to lose his job. Two things happened with that... We realized that we really do have the security of the farm and Don realized that he values his job and is not ready to leave it... More of the ebb and flow of burnout... right now the tide is out for him and he'd like to work a few more years. Maybe start something small at home, involve family if you can (or make room for them when they are older) and just see where it goes... If it's something you are passionate about it may give you enough stress relief to see you happy again at work if just for the money... and if it takes off you could be the next Duck Commander :) |
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Jason, I’ve been thinking a lot about this thread. You have been on my heart for some reason. I’ve prayed for you.
I do have some words for you. I don’t know if it will help or not… Believe it or not, I just completed a series teaching on something that kind of follows this subject. It all started with a sermon “Things that don’t exist” The point was, there is no such thing as a passive Christian and there really is no such thing as a passive sinner. We are either working toward the goal (Paul’s “Mark for the high calling…”) or we are working at cross prepossesses. That lack of working toward the goal leaves us at cross purposes with God and we end up frustrated. Paul talks about the “Old Man” and how we put him in the grave etc. What I find with most Christians is, they put down the old man, but often hold onto the thought process, goals, desires, intent of the old man. Not realizing that God intends the new man to have new ideas driving toward what God intends for us. Holding onto the desires and goals of the old man while being driven by the heart of the new man leads again to frustration. We work at cross purposes with ourselves! Sin is the same. The bible talks about the WORKS of the flesh. Sin is WORK. It seems easy but it always leaves us empty. It is akin to taking a shovel and digging a giant hole in the ground. It is work and in the end, it is exhausting. That led me to look for an answer. In the end I came up with something really simple. LIVE ON PURPOSE. Be intentional about your life! Do you know where you are going? If you don’t, then you are just floating around allowing life to happen to you. And believe it or not, that is vastly MORE exhausting than WORKING toward the goals that God intends! Again, there is no such thing as a passive Christian. I think in some measure your burnout is a result of this very thing. I mean no insult here. I came to this because of my own experience. My own burnout caused by much the same thing. Maybe I am projecting… If so, please forgive my intrusion, but I really believe in the commonality of our shared experience and if something is going on in one person’s life, chances are, it is common to mankind. So what to do? Well first decide to really “run the race” that Paul talked about. Run. Really commit yourself to finding out what the goals, desires, intent and way of thinking God intends for YOU. Dig in and figure that out. Know also that your personal life is not separate from your spiritual life! Rather, it is an extension of it. So if your personal life is not fulfilling, then maybe you have not connected the two. Any race begins in the starting blocks. The starting blocks require the runner to go to their knees. Start there. In prayer. Now I am not suggesting you aren’t already doing that but I would be remiss to assume and not say it. Pray. A lot. Then pray some more. Then from that place start working on what you believe God intends for you. Then develop a plan. Do you have a 1 year plan for your life? I mean one that incorporates what God intends for you spiritually and how your personal life helps attain those goals? You need that. You need a 5 year plan. You need a 10 year plan. And you need to take the baby steps to get you where you want to be. You cannot quit a job because you don’t like it. But you can begin to prepare yourself for something that is fulfilling. You may find that by adjusting your goals to those that are from God, you become more satisfied with what you are doing in your personal life. When you see how it brings you into the place you need to be spiritually, how it helps fulfill that part of your life, you may find a better outlook. OR you may find that were you are at work is just all wrong. Don’t quit working. That will just frustrate everything. Instead, begin to change the things about yourself that bring you where you need to be. Start learning new skills. Skills that are in line with your new goals. Start working on understanding what you are SUPPOSED to be doing. Then build a plan to get there. Working toward something that has the stamp of approval by God Almighty will absolutely change your outlook and rejuvenate you. One last thing. I am going to start teaching Purpose Driven Life this Sunday. It is a good fit for the subject at hand. Get the book if you don’t have it. Go thru it. Just START Bro! I believe in you! |
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Posts like that remind me of why I participate here. God has used you today Ferd. :)
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Well so far this week has been a little better. I have a meeting with the owner tomorrow at 9am, partly to come up with a solution regarding responsibilities and time off so that "everyone has a life." Including myself, and the VP (his son). I got a little relief this week, in that my Wednesday work day was shortened to 5 hours (as it stands I work 6 days a week-normally Saturday is a "half da" which ranges from 3 to 7 hours, normally closer to 7 than 3). I'll see how things turn out. I was checking in on AFF and saw several comments so I'll reply.
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Whatever frustrations you have on your current job might be the same or worse if you leave and have to take a job paying less. Then you will have that same frustration plus money problems. I faced your same situation about 15 years ago and actually had my wife tell me she was with me to make a drastic move that would have meanat much less income and living in a small apartment with children vs the home we were in. Just knowing my wife was with me if I decided to do it kind of freed my mind and when I thought it through I knew that I had to live my life with my kids first and I was not going to impact their lives in a negative way by bringing economic hardship to them. It was not like I would be spending more time with them as I probably would have had to get two jobs to pursue the dream I had. As soon as I resolved to do what was best for my family and not me personally God opened a door that meant a move to a cool place and a considerable increase in income. I was glad I did not do anything rash in that year I wrestled with what you are now. |
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I'm not in a fearful mode, like "what if I quit this job will my life fall apart", because I believe that God will be with me doing whatever, as He has also been with yall. In the UPC sometime there is so much hocus pocus about God's will, one can be worried they may move to a house that isn't God's will, buy a car that isn't God's will, work a job that isn't God's will, etc. (That was the mindset of my first pastor, and it affected my thinking for several years-it wasn't until about 2008 I began to realize that even if I did something, and made a mistake God wasn't going to punish me for not being in the right place that was "His will" I've since grown in my thinking to understand that God's will is for me to live my life for Him, and he gives me the freedom to live, work, drive what I want to, so long as He comes first in my life. There isn't a special house, car, and job that I must do, or else God can't bless me.....but yes, that's how I used to think. Probably wouldn't have admitted to it verbally, but psychologically it caused me some mental anguish. BUT, now my only fear is....what if I leave, then after the stress and pressure goes away I always live with regrets? What if I regret leaving in 2 weeks, or 2 months, or 2 years? If I left, I'm pretty sure I could even come back, but it would probably never be the same again. The owner of the company has such confidence in me, and has helped me do so many things in my life, if I did leave, and try to come back, I'm sure they'd have a place for me, but I'm fairly sure our relationships would never be the same again. But posts like these are helping me see the other side. Really the greatest concern is the unknown. |
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Duck Commander.......Hmmmmm....:heeheehee |
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Jason,
One caveat to my advice and experience is that if I were a young single man with no debt and was in the situation I probably would make a change. My biggest regret in life is probably not following what I really wanted to do when I was young before I had a family and those financial responsibilities. Once you have that you have to put your family first. |
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I also go preach at the county jail on various Thursday evenings, and that is rewarding. Though almost every single time I am working up until time to go to the jail, and throughout the day I battle with mental exhaustion, and think, maybe I should just call them and tell them I am working late tonight and cant make it (like I said in another post, my work never ends, and so many nights I works up to or past 7pm, which is the time I have to be at the jail to go through security/check in.) But then after I get there and preach, I am so encouraged, I NEVER regret going. In fact, I many times walk into the jail drained and exhausted, and walk out refreshed and energized. I've told my wife, "I go to minister to them, but its like they are ministering to me and they don't even realize it." Really all of this intensified when I came back from vacation (first week of May) to find out I was now going to be the preacher at the church I attend. (I'm not the pastor, technically that church hasn't had a pastor since its inception in Feb 2012, but the responsibilities are the exact same). I was already wanting to get some more free time before that happened anyway, but since then it is really been getting to me. Feels like I'm trying to do everything, but I don't want to do everything. The struggle is, its the job that pays the bills, and takes care of the needs of my family. Its the church and work with people (both the lost in outreach and the saved in their growth with Christ) that is really what I want to give my life to (Ferd this is also a response to your post-in that I'm torn 2 ways). I don't feel like I don't have purpose, I feel like I can't give the time and effort I want to to the church, unless I neglect my family (because work is a necessity right now, either where I am or somewhere else). I think that's where my rub is. |
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I've been pretty open on this thread, and I'm posting with my real name, so theres the possibility someone could come across it from work or church (but I think its unlikely anyone will find it here on AFF). That said I don't regret what I've shared, and I appreciate everyones feedback. Expressing myself has also been helpful for me. Sometime an outlet to vent helps. |
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Jason,
The scary thing about using your real name as a screen name on any forum is that a google search somebody does for your name will pull up your posts. I just did a google search of your name and the third result was a thread here you have posted in! |
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Can you hire someone to lighten your work load?
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Bro. Jason, I will be praying that the Lord somehow lightens this burden that you are carrying. Like Houston, I think it sounds like you don't necessarily need to change jobs, but just need some help, an assistant, or someone to help carry the heavy load you have.
Just wanted you to know that I will spend time in prayer for your situation that the Lord will undertake and help you through this. |
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Perhaps you should move up from Houston....its only a 5hr drive. |
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Some people come to AFF attempting to evangelize people to their points of view.....perhaps I should evangelizing people to come to work. Such is the Obama economy. |
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Hi Jason,
Now that you have shared more about your situation I've only got a couple of questions for you. 1. Have you talked to your boss? Honestly that is where I'd start. I have known several people who have left their jobs for just the reasons you state and also know the people they have worked for (mostly doctors and nurses). When the employer later comes to understand that the employee needed more of their lives back they usually say "If I'd only known I would have hired her some help". It's easy to keep piling a workload on someone who is able to handle a lot of work and to give the most difficult tasks to the person who will do a good job at them. Still more employers are not trying to make life miserable for someone they value. My advice, make a list of what you'd like to be different and take it to your boss. Let him know that you love and appreciate your job but that at this point you need more family time. If you have sufficiently bathed the situation in prayer I have every confidence that he will hear you and his response will be positive. If noting else maybe you could consider taking a lesser position in your current company where you have seniority and a history. Maybe offer to return to a store mgr. or some other position with the attendant pay cut... You might still be better off than starting over or leaving and coming back. I have seen a lot of people leave my job in 14 years and many have come back, it is never held against them that they tried something else. The second question is: How much of this are you demanding of yourself rather than someone else demanding it of you? In my experience a lot of 'go-getter' types project that the workload they take on was somehow required when in reality a lot of what they have taken on comes from either a failure to delegate or the idea that 'If you want something done right do it yourself' overplayed in their work lives. I'm not saying any of this is your situation for sure but could it be part of it? I also have a job that no one else does when I am gone and work piles up until I get back. This left me picking off vacation days one or two at a time because it is also work that can not wait weeks. With Don's recent surgery I realized that it was time to train someone to cover for me and so I have. I am now looking forward to a week long vacation with my grandchildren before school goes back in fall. I pray peace over your situation. Melissa |
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Going back to school full time for two years following a layoff was the best for me at the time and was very rewarding as well as getting me a pretty good paying job. Don't ever move too hastily. Every time I moved to a different town/state it took a lot out of the family for obvious reasons. On the school note....pick your area of study carefully. Lots of degrees still being offered for dieing occupations.
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12 years ago, I had a great contract job with INS (now known as ICE); worked there for several years and loved it. Then I responded to an offer by a Pastor to assist him. He said the church had an apartment and would take care of my living expenses, but that I could find a good part-time or full-time job to take care of any other expenses/amenities. I prayed about it, thought it was the thing to do....leap of faith kind of thing.
Well, the leap of faith turned out to be a massive face-plant. A couple weeks after I moved, I was told the church needed the apartment for another couple who was going to be the youth pastor, and the church wouldn't be able to cover any rent or living expenses. Suddenly, I was having to face paying rent/living expenses and anything else with my $8/hour job. At that time I was making close to $35,000 and had passed a promotion which would have paid up to $50,000. For a single young man, that would've been more than enough. I wasn't able to recover from the financial hit. Going from $35K to 15K is a punch to the gut, even for a single guy. I started getting behind on bills just to pay rent/living expenses. One snowy morning before church, I went out and brushed the car off went back inside to get some things before leaving. I came back out 10 minutes later to find my car gone. Of course, I called the police to report it stolen, but was told it was not stolen; rather, it was repo'd. For several years any tax refund was garnished because I had defaulted on my school loans. Three years ago, I finally was able to pay consistently enough for a year to get it out of default status. My credit is still messed up from the missed payments and collections. I wasn't burned out. In fact, I thought I was doing God's will. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have left my job. Instead, I would have commuted on the weekends to the city where the church was to make sure it worked out. Be careful leaving something that's secure for something that isn't. Regardless if it's because you're burned out or even if it's for a ministry. |
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