I hate church!!
 

I love Jesus and believe in living a lifestyle that shows that love! However, I hate what the Pentecostal and Apostolic churches have become. Most of the reasons for the hate have been discussed here over and over. I mentioned my feelings to a couple of family members and I might as well told them I was a satanist!!

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Well, I don't attend church anymore and haven't for a few years. Sometimes, I really miss it. But then I think about what it was verses the fantasy of what I wanted it to be.....and I just keep doing what I'm doing....

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Some of my best and most beautiful memories and experiences have been when I have been in the presence of God. Some of my WORST have been when I have been "in church!".

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I love church! There is a strength to be gained from corporate worship and hearing the word of God from a preacher (just like the New Testament says we need to).

When I am having a tough day or week it is refreshing to lift my voice with others and worship God in music and then after inviting in the presence of God hearing the word of God taught.

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The main thing to remember, your relationship with God isn't determined by you entering a building on a regular basis.

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I dropped out of the MAINSTREAM Church system in 1983. However I don't hate local Church. I believe in it. My prayer is that before I die I will find a real New Covenant Church.

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Your comment wraps up my feelings very well! Why does one have to wait for church service to be uplifted by a God that lives within us? My belief is most have fallen in love with an emotional high that comes with a (move of God)!

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I know this very well. But as you know if you have been around Pentecost very long that you are judged based on attendance to service and your action/reaction during service!

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Most here know that I fall into the "Hate it!" category but having said that the services that I have most enjoyed -and I mean TRULY enjoyed, not just "relatively enjoyed" compared to all the other services which I hated, have been the MORNING services at our Summer family camp week. It felt like God was there 10x over what He was during the hyper emotional and hyper LONG night time services as well as the typical services at our home church.

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I'm totally opposite! I don't want to be around people after a long hard week. Preachers, saints or atheist!! Give me a good cd and a quite study time.

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Yep, I did it for about 40 years in pentecost. It's wonderful to be free though, living for God is much much more intimate and enjoyable.

Not knocking those who do enjoy 'church' though. It's just not for some.

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Im not knocking those that need to attend but here in the good ol southwest Mississippi people of all denominations look at you strange when you make a statement about hating church.

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One doesn't have to wait. Did you wait? Why hate church because you wrongly believed you had to wait for church service to be uplifted by God?

BTW...just a reminder of "Church"

1Th 5:11 Therefore comfort one another, and edify one another, even as you also do.

Eph 4:11 And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
Eph 4:13 And this until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

1Co 14:3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation.
1Co 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church.
1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.
1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you speaking in tongues, how will I benefit you unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or teaching?

1Co 14:12 So with yourselves, since you are eager for manifestations of the Spirit, strive to excel in building up the church.
1Co 14:13 Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray for the power to interpret.
1Co 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
1Co 14:15 What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will sing with my mind also.
1Co 14:16 Otherwise, if you give thanks with your spirit, how can anyone in the position of an outsider say "Amen" to your thanksgiving when he does not know what you are saying?
1Co 14:17 For you may be giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not being built up.
1Co 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you.
1Co 14:19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

the fact is, gathering together and edifying the body is biblical

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Church was never meant to be looked at as "going to Church". It is meant to be a continuing fellowship of people who believe in Jesus and his teachings.

Of course it is Biblical to meet at least weekly. I have been associated with several groups over the years that to some degree seemed like a New Covenant Church. It is an awesome thing.

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I can totally relate to your statement, although like RW... when the presence of the Lord is truly in the place, it is a beautiful thing. However, much of the time, the presence of man far surpasses anything the Lord wants to do. Perhaps that is why you "hate church" but still love the Lord, and seek after His presence?

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maybe the problem is you see church attendance as a NEED and if for some reason you don't feel you have any needs or they are not being met by that church, that is the reason why you hate church

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Every Sunday morning and night, Wednesday night and ever revival and special service?? Hearing the same six songs over and over ? Then after about an hour of that listen to someone speak for another hour? I don't think this kinda church is Biblical!

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I don't understand the question. The fact is, it's biblical to gather together and EDIFY and BE Edified.

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Praxeas mentioned Ephemeral 4:11. He gave some pastors.......

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Why must you be in a certain building to be edified??

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Why the belief that one must attend only one assembly and be a faithful supporting member of that one assembly? There are probably 30 churches within 50 miles of me . Why couldn't I attend all of these on a rotation without being chastised??

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Who said you did? It's not the building. Did you see the verses I posted? None of them mentioned a building in the sense of you using the word.

Church is not a building. It's a gathering. An assembly

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Why would someone who hates church do that?

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How many miracles in the New Testament happened in a church building?

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Who said anything about church buildings? What does that have to do with you hating church?

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You are misunderstanding my point! I do not know how to explain myself so you will get it.

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You're point was "I hate church". Or was it "I hate my church and I want to visit others"?

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More clarity!! I hate what church services have become!

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People frequently confuse a building with the church. I think what you're tired of is the building based romanist religious system which is presented as the church. I don't blame ya, I got tired of it too.

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Then what difference does it make if you go to a different church if you hate what all church services have become?

OR

Are you just saying "I hate what MY church services have become"?

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Seems like some conflicting messages. Is it the building? no. Is it the same church over and over? No. Is it the same songs over and over? no. Is it, after a hard day of work all week long you don't want to be around anyone? Not sure really what the real issue is with hating church

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I appreciate and never want to take for granted, that I am
able to attend the church of my choice and gather with like
minded people who love to worship and praise God together.

Psalm 122:1 I was glad when they said unto me, let us go into
the house of the Lord.

I like what Spurgeon said concerning Psalm chapter 122.......

http://www.spurgeon.org/treasury/ps122.htm

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Well said. But they make it seem like a biblical fact that if you dont go to the social club every sunday and dress like them you wont be saved. Sad!

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Go to church. FIND or MAKE an opportunity to testify.
And when you do, spill your heart out.

You will then receive a CLEAR and CERTAIN sound as to what you need to do next.

It's how I found out what direction *I* needed to go in. And it has been confirmed by family members who didn't want to listen to what I was trying to tell them.


:)

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Does it ever cross your mind that if there are zero churches that meet your requirements the issue might be with you and not churches?

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Yes I have thought about it, prayed about it, and studied about it.

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Every doctrinal position has adherents that make that claim

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And?

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Or?

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But if?