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Joh 6:53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves.
Joh 6:54 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Joh 6:55 "For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink.
Joh 6:56 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
Joh 6:57 "As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me.
Joh 6:58 "This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever."

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Yes, I was going to mention this on the baptism poll but then thought better of it, didn't want to hijack that thread... so glad you have brought up this point.

Apparently the NT church thought it was quite important to celebrate the Lord's Supper with communion whenever they got together, as we read in 1 Cor. 11:20-34

The Lord's Supper is not mentioned in the Heb. 6:1 tenet of the faith statement, but, it is apparently a practice that the Early Church participated in as a symbolic thing, and certainly the words of Jesus would make us to understand from John 6, and also during the Last Supper, that this was something we should do as oft as we meet together .... hmm.... it does bother me that the church nowadays do not as a whole practice this except maybe once a year (on New Year's Day) if they do it at all...

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When I was Pastoring we did weekly communion.

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We have it weekly at my church. At the end of every service.

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Do you believe you were participating with Jesus' teaching in John 6.

Joh 6:53 So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves.
Joh 6:54 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Joh 6:55 "For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink.
Joh 6:56 "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
Joh 6:57 "As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me.
Joh 6:58 "This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever."

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OK. How do I, 2000 years after Jesus was received up into heaven "eat his flesh"?

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The same way His disciples ate His flesh, drank His blood.

Jesus said this would result in eternal life.

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Ok, so, how did his disciples eat His flesh and drink His blood.

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If it were not possible to eat and drink, Jesus wouldn't have taught it. Per scripture, this is how they ate and drank.

Mat 26:26 While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is My body."
Mat 26:27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you;
Mat 26:28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.

Do you believe that?

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Is the cracker and 10ml grape juice even communion?

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Jesus simply said bread and wine.

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seekerman,
I believe the Words of Jesus, just like I believe the Bible in general. What I don't believe is the twisting of scriptures for some obscure and usually false doctrinal point.

I don't get the point of your questioning.

So YES, I believe the Words of Jesus Christ.
Now what?

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Try to obey them.

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Do we literally drink of living water when we recive the Spirit?

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I dunno. Is there something from Jesus which would indicate this?

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Acts 8:30-31 NKJV

So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.

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We figuratively drink of the Spirit, as it were water. Thus the analogy used by Christ.

We figuratively drink of his blood and eat of his flesh when we are born again. We celebrate this with a typology of his blood and body, the communion elements.

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As I said on the other thread, if you do the following, you are NOT eating the Lord's Supper:

1. Multiple, individual wafers.
2. Multiple thimbles of grape juice.
3. Special 'words of consecration' that magically make the wafers and thimbles anything other than wafers and thimbles - including any nonsense about making them somehow now, suddenly, 'represent' the body and blood of Jesus.
4. Deep introspection and going over all one's sins prior to 'partaking' in order to 'not be unworthy' of eating.
5. Standing in line to 'take communion'.
6. 'Taking' communion. (how do you 'take' fellowship????)
7. Requiring only a specially designated person to say the magic words that makes the bread and wine/juice 'special' in some pseudo-catholic mystery religion sense.
8. Failing to see that the FELLOWSHIP of the body of Christ is our joint participation as THE BODY OF CHRIST in God's grace.
9. Failing to see that the FELLOWSHIP of the blood of Christ is our joint participation as THE BODY OF CHRIST IN ONE NEW COVENANT with God by His grace.
Most Protestants commit two great errors in regard to the Lord's Supper.

1. They make it a mere 'symbolic' ritual. IE an empty ritual. The Lord's Supper is most definitely a 'means of grace'.
2. They also, mysteriously, simultaneously, make it a mystery cult rite, a magical ceremony where a special person (clergy) says some special words (the words of consecration) which makes the imitation Mass wafers and the thimbles of juice into some kind of super special 'mysteries'. The only SUBSTANTIAL* difference between a typical Protestant 'communion service' (as practiced by the UPC and others) and a Tridentine Mass or Divine Liturgy is the issue of 'transubstantiation'.

*pun intended.

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I believe all of Jesus' words!