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seekerman

11-04-2013 09:17 PM

Can God Pray?

Saw this posted by a minister...."God cannot pray! If he could, he would not be God! We all know that God cannot pray to God and still be God!"

Would you agree or disagree?

Abiding Now

11-04-2013 09:19 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

The SON of God prayed.

seekerman

11-04-2013 09:23 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1285429)

The SON of God prayed.

Is that agreement or disagreement with the statement?

Abiding Now

11-04-2013 09:28 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

Yes.

jfrog

11-04-2013 09:31 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1285433)

Yes.

Lol.

seekerman

11-04-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1285435)

Lol.

LOL.

crakjak

11-04-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1285433)

Yes.

Sounds trinny!!! LOL

seekerman

11-04-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 1285439)

Sounds trinny!!! LOL

The guy isn't trinitarian. But as we can see, certain questions make oneness folks go into evasion mode quite quickly. :thumbsup

Praxeas

11-04-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285428)

Saw this posted by a minister...."God cannot pray! If he could, he would not be God! We all know that God cannot pray to God and still be God!"

Would you agree or disagree?

Yes I agree if we are speaking about a God who did not become a part of Creation.

seekerman

11-04-2013 10:31 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285441)

Yes I agree if we are speaking about a God who did not become a part of Creation.

I agree too!

votivesoul

11-05-2013 01:31 AM

Re: Can God Pray?

God may take counsel after His own will, may take/make an oath against Himself, and make, in the command sense, a petition or plead with His people or even the rest of the world, but otherwise, no, God does not and has no need to, ever pray, as we think of it.

Then again, if we are only using the word God as the Sovereign Divine Being and Creator of All Eternity, does my answer stand.

If, however, we are using the word generically as the English equivalent to the generic Hebrew elohim, then my answer may vary.

kclee4jc

11-05-2013 09:00 AM

Re: Can God Pray?

Someone is doing some research on Bro. Lambeth.

seekerman

11-05-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1285486)

Someone is doing some research on Bro. Lambeth.

Someone(s) isn't wanting to publicly agree with the statement.

seekerman

11-05-2013 09:59 AM

Re: Can God Pray?

Is that quote, which many are shying away from, from the future? The date of the post was 12/5/2020.

houston

11-05-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285428)

Saw this posted by a minister...."God cannot pray! If he could, he would not be God! We all know that God cannot pray to God and still be God!" Would you agree or disagree?

is this supposed to be some profound statement?

The Son of God prayed to His Father

navygoat1998

11-05-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285501)

is this supposed to be some profound statement?

The Son of God prayed to His Father

Your such a Trinitarian :heeheehee

jfrog

11-05-2013 12:05 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285501)

is this supposed to be some profound statement?

The Son of God prayed to His Father

I'm not sure if that's a yes or a no??? Anyone care to guess?

navygoat1998

11-05-2013 12:09 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285428)

Saw this posted by a minister...."God cannot pray! If he could, he would not be God! We all know that God cannot pray to God and still be God!"

Would you agree or disagree?

I have a book written by Skip Heitzig called "When God Prays. Discovering the heart of Jesus in His prayers."

I picked it up at a thrift store and have not had a chance to read it yet.

For the record Skip is a pastor of a Calvary Chapel church.

seekerman

11-05-2013 12:32 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

So far, there's been several responses but only one answer. Prax agrees, as do I with the statement of the apostolic missionary. As one who doesn't believe Jesus is God, the statement completely agrees with my theology.

Apostolics, where are you? Agree or disagree?

:thumbsup

seekerman

11-05-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1285505)

When did God pray? Not saying He didn't, but where is an example of God praying and to whom was He praying? :)

seekerman

11-05-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1285504)

I'm not sure if that's a yes or a no??? Anyone care to guess?

The mystery remains.

Luke	11-05-2013 01:03 PM

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Jesus who was and is God made flesh prayed as a man as our example to His Heavenly Father.

seekerman

11-05-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1285512)

Jesus who was and is God made flesh prayed as a man as our example to His Heavenly Father.

Is this agreeing or disagreeing with the statement?

houston

11-05-2013 01:43 PM

Oneness "explanation" is that the flesh nature prayed to the divine nature. So, they probably agree with the statement.

Luke	11-05-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285513)

Is this agreeing or disagreeing with the statement?

Yes God can and did pray as our example and no it did not make Him any less God.

houston

11-05-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1285503)

Your such a Trinitarian :heeheehee

Lol

seekerman

11-05-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1285518)

Yes God can and did pray as our example and no it did not make Him any less God.

So you disagree with the statement?

seekerman

11-05-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285516)

Oneness "explanation" is that the flesh nature prayed to the divine nature. So, they probably agree with the statement.

I can't get an answer from an apostolic for some reason. That leads me to believe there are issues with the statement.

houston

11-05-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285522)

I can't get an answer from an apostolic for some reason. That leads me to believe there are issues with the statement.

not enough leaves covering the net trap...

seekerman

11-05-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285524)

not enough leaves covering the net trap...

LOL.

Praxeas

11-05-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285516)

Oneness "explanation" is that the flesh nature prayed to the divine nature. So, they probably agree with the statement.

No. Natures can't pray. That is like saying "soft ran in the race and hard was watching"

Praxeas

11-05-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285522)

I can't get an answer from an apostolic for some reason. That leads me to believe there are issues with the statement.

I answered

houston

11-05-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285530)

No. Natures can't pray. That is like saying "soft ran in the race and hard was watching"

I speak of "oneness" that was "taught" to me when I was a teen.

Praxeas

11-05-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1285533)

I speak of "oneness" that was "taught" to me when I was a teen.

Yeah...it was a bad teaching.

Jesus prayed because He had a Human nature but it was HIS prayers, not the prayers of His nature

seekerman

11-05-2013 04:47 PM

Re: Can God Pray?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285531)

I answered

Yes you did, and I acknowledged it. I thought you were pentecostal, not apostolic.

My bad.

So...I've had one apostolic to agree with the statement.

seekerman

11-05-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285538)

Yeah...it was a bad teaching.

Jesus prayed because He had a Human nature but it was HIS prayers, not the prayers of His nature

But HIS prayers wasn't God praying, was it? Per the statement you and I agreed on.

Praxeas

11-05-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285566)

Yes you did, and I acknowledged it. I thought you were pentecostal, not apostolic.

My bad.

So...I've had one apostolic to agree with the statement.

I am a Christian who believes in Christ Crucified, buried and resurrected. Repentance. Baptism in the name of Jesus. Speaking in tongues and the Oneness view of Jesus Christ being God Himself incarnate, not one of three persons incarnate.

Praxeas

11-05-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285567)

But HIS prayers wasn't God praying, was it? Per the statement you and I agreed on.

His Prayers were HIM Praying BECAUSE HE has a Human nature.

What I said was

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285441)

Yes I agree if we are speaking about a God who did not become a part of Creation.

seekerman

11-05-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1285569)

His Prayers were HIM Praying BECAUSE HE has a Human nature.

What I said was

But it wasn't GOD praying was it?

Praxeas

11-05-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 1285570)

But it wasn't GOD praying was it?

It was The PERSON who is God (God is not His name) INCARNATE or become human that prayed. He prayed because He has a Human nature

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