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This Indiana hunter's life is tragically cut short, but under a very unique set of circumstances. What do you guys think about this situation?

http://news.yahoo.com/injured-indian...181336165.html

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Such a sad and tragic story.

I don't believe this was suicide or sin. His body was on life support. He was unable to live without the assistance of machines. IMO, this is no different than a person with terminal cancer choosing not to receive any medical treatment.

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You know brother, I thought it was a very sad story too. But isn't it interesting? The situation, the family and doctor's decisions-- I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the article.

Still, I don't see MUCH of a difference between this and the services Dr. Kevorkian provided his patients.

For me, the emphasis is on MUCH.

There is one technicality involved-- but is right and wrong determined on technicalities?

I just think the details to this story is very fascinating, when you think about it.

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I see the difference as this: no one ended this man's life. Unlike where Dr. Kevorkian gives drugs which cause the death to occur, this man simply had a ventilator removed.

This man died naturally.

There was no human intervention or drugs given to expedite an early death. That's the difference, which, IMO, is a big issue.

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Not so big of a difference in that the decisions for death are being made by the dying. Definite decisions and actions on the part of the dying that leads to death in both situations.

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I am thinking that my opinion that Dr. K. should never have been prosecuted would be the minority around these parts.

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Medical science isn't sacred. Frankly, I think people are living longer than intended as a result of respirators, treatments, and some forms of medication. In a sense, this is playing God... not allowing one to die naturally. Of course, the choice to undergo such procedures and or treatments should be entirely up to the individual.

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Refusing medical treatment is not the same as taking drug to kill yourself.

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I disagree, because the people dying weren't allowed to die naturally. They were given medication which killed them. This man died a natural death. He wasn't given any medication, nor did any Dr do anything to cause his life to end prematurely.

I would agree that opinion is likely in the minority. A Dr should never knowingly give medication to kill someone, even if the person wants to die.

The Hippocratic Oath they take forbids it:

We see how legalized abortion has created the pathway for legalized euthanasia; and soon may even allow for infanticide.

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50 years ago there wouldn't have even been a question, the man would have probably died within a few hours. But doctors and medicine have "advanced" to where they can now "save a person's life". A quality of life so despicable that no one in their right mind would choose it.

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I agree with both these posts!

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Interesting viewpoint: doing sometihng to die is suicide but refusing to do something that will allow you to remain alive is not.

I guess death by refusing to eat or drink isn't suicide because the person simply chose not to do sometihng to remain alive.

I guess death by making a timebomb and then refusing to move away from it isn't suicide either because the person chose not to do something to remain alive.

I guess death by standing on the train tracks till the train smashes you is not suicide because you simply chose not to do something to remain alive.

I guess the last couple of things aren't "natural deaths" but I'm sure if I get creative I can come up with some natural ways a person can choose to die and not have it counted as suicide. For example what if I'm really careful at recreating the indiana hunters injury so much so that the only way I can live is to be put on a respirator and then I choose to go off the respirator. I'm dying naturally and simply not doing something to remain alive. I guess now we have at least one clear cut way we can choose to die without it being suicide. I guess all the people worried about what will happen if they commit suicide after they die have a way to not have their death counted as suicide. I bet that will make them happy.

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Doctors euthanize people daily ,they just do it slowly with morphine ,turning it up in incremental amounts !

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Mmmmmmk. :rolleyes2

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This reminds me of a conversation I had with my Dr. a couple weeks ago.

He pointed out that we have a huge rise in Diabetes. He stated that while diet is a huge factor, there is another factor that we are not accounting for.
Diabetics used to die. Now they go on and live productive lives and they also pass along their genes to another generation.

There will come a point when virtually everyone will have the genetic makeup of a diabetic.


Medicine has improved our lives but in the long run, is it doing serious damage to humanity?

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Medical science has done wonders and has also caused massive heartache all in the name of "saving lives". I knew about a child that was injured with a massive head injury, rush to a regional hospital and under went several operations. The child never recovered, never spoke again, never walked, could not control his bowels or bladder, but the doctors walked away confident that they had "saved a life". The doctors left a mother to attend a child that grew into a teenager that was a total invalid.
Sad.

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Is there a difference in making a decision about your death before your accident or after?

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There are people who don't understand the difference in saving a life, and having a life that's been saved. I see it often....people who have been 'saved' who die every day, over and over. Who wants to live like that?