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Hoovie 12-18-2013 07:47 PM

Duck Dynasty Star Booted
 
Basically all he did was quote scripture!
Speaking with GQ, Robertson lamented that when "everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong ... sin becomes fine." So just what qualifies as sinful in his book?

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there — bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men," he declared.

Phil probably should have cut himself off at this point (considering he's a national TV star), but instead he paraphrased Corinthians. "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won’t inherit the kingdom of God," he warned. "Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."



http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-d...134231650.html

Michael The Disciple 12-18-2013 07:59 PM

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I hope the group of them stand firm. Finally someone has spoken up!

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:01 PM

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Phil's response after the Hiatus was handed down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWp1VOFQxKg

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:13 PM

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Tweets:

Quote:

From Sarah Palin:

Free speech is endangered species; those "intolerants" hatin' & taking on Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing personal opinion take on us all
#ThatAwkwardMoment when way more people watch a single episode of Duck Dynasty than have signed up for Obamacare...

So, #DuckDynasty takes off like wildfire because the Robertsons are true Americana and A&E suspends them for that? Idiots.

Welcome to the age of #LGBT fascism. A&E has reportedly fired Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson for speaking blunt truth about homosexual sin

#BOYCOTT @AETV FOR DENYING PHIL ROBERTSON of @DuckDynastyAE HIS RIGHT TO FREEDOM of SPEECH

Hoovie 12-18-2013 08:35 PM

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lol!

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:37 PM

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"Dear A&E: There are more duck hunters than there are GLAAD members. Good luck with your ratings. And, hey, coexist, Jack!”

"Tolerance is allowed unless you are a white married heterosexual christian man"

"I stand with Phil Robertson... Period!!"

Hannity will be talking about Duck Dynasty on his program tonight.

"Wearing camo tomorrow to support Phil Robertson"

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:39 PM

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Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty FB page over 20K likes in under 20 minutes... http://fb.me/3hfvFIiLZ

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:43 PM

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"Gays Get A&E To Fire ‘Duck Dynasty’ Star For Saying He Is Not Sexually Attracted To Men, Quoting The Bible"

"Phil may have offended some people who didn't watch the show but by suspending him @AETV offended most of the people who do."

"I'll pick the Bible over @AETV any day- A&E suspends Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson for agreeing with the Bible."

"If @GLAAD cared about homosexual's treatment, they'd have called out Alec Baldwin and Islam before #DuckDynasty"

Pressing-On 12-18-2013 08:43 PM

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Article from GQ:

What the Duck?

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/tele...?currentPage=1

jfrog 12-18-2013 08:45 PM

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Freedom of speech. Freedom of a and e to fire him if they want unless it's on a prohibited basis. Seems to me like the bigger problem is that they are discriminating against him for his religious views...

*AQuietPlace* 12-18-2013 11:02 PM

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A&E's response should have been:

"Phil Robertson does not express the views of A&E, but he has the right to express his own views and beliefs."

As if.

They've just caused a firestorm by taking this action.

Is the Bible really going to be considered hate speech now?

n david 12-19-2013 05:33 AM

When his comments to GQ hit DrudgeReport, and GLAAD issued their statement, I told a friend to watch how long it took A&E to react against him. Barely a few hours passed and they issued their dumb statement essentially putting him on leave from the show.

Makes me furious that such a small percentage has this much power.

I would love for the Robertson's to pull out of the contract with A&E and go on another channel.

As Larry the Cable Guy says, "What is this, Russia?"

votivesoul 12-19-2013 06:37 AM

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Kind of hard to have a reality show based on the life of a person who isn't allowed onto the very show created around the reality of his life.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 06:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1293558)
When his comments to GQ hit DrudgeReport, and GLAAD issued their statement, I told a friend to watch how long it took A&E to react against him. Barely a few hours passed and they issued their dumb statement essentially putting him on leave from the show.

Makes me furious that such a small percentage has this much power.

I would love for the Robertson's to pull out of the contract with A&E and go on another channel.

As Larry the Cable Guy says, "What is this, Russia?"

I expected they would do something about it as well. And I agree - it makes me furious that such a small percentage have this much power. Mainly, the left media.

This panel with Megan Kelly really lines it out - the gay person is saying it is "hate speech". To preach the Bible is "hate speech" in his mind.

"It's time we stop agreeing that religion can be used to spew hate and cause people to feel bad about themselves."

LOL! We sure don't want to feel convicted of anything now, do we?

Although this guy is on the wrong side of our 1st Amendment rights, I feel the church needs to check itself on how we deliver our views of sin. For instance, I believe it comes across, many times, as hateful to say, "God didn't make Adam and Steve....." Sometimes, JMO, it comes across as though there is no way of deliverance, and then we pile on a little more fear of our environment. Of course, that is just me and the impression I get when I hear those words.

Quote:

Megyn Kelly Panel Discusses A & E Suspending “Duck Dynasty’s” Phil Robertson; “Word Police” Run Amok – Video 12/18/13

Essentially, the Left is saying you can have your private religious beliefs, but in America now, you cannot say what you believe. That is NOT what the First Amendment is all about.
And while Phil's wording of his view of a man and woman's body was rather "redneck", he is saying what a lot of straight people have been thinking all along.

He also never equated homosexuality with beastiality. He merely ticked off a list of sinful practices.

n david 12-19-2013 07:41 AM

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Let's face the facts. The media and companies aren't afraid to upset Christians because they know Christians will do nothing about it. Oh sure, we'll complain on Facebook or internet forums, but we won't rise as one against them and make them pay for it by refusing to shop at stores, purchase goods, or watch networks which support this.

As much as I would love to see them do so, the Robertson's will not boycott the show. The show will complete its season, and then A&E will let it drop from programming. A&E knows it just has to weather a couple days of Facebook posts, then everything will be fine and Christians will still watch the show.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 07:50 AM

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Dec 19, 2013
Gov. Jindal on Phil Robertson Suspension: I Remember When TV Networks Believed in 1st Amendment

BATON ROUGE – Governor Bobby Jindal issued a statement this morning following the news of Phil Robertson being suspended by A&E from the show Duck Dynasty.

Governor Jindal said, “Phil Robertson and his family are great citizens of the State of Louisiana. The politically correct crowd is tolerant of all viewpoints, except those they disagree with. I don’t agree with quite a bit of stuff I read in magazine interviews or see on TV. In fact, come to think of it, I find a good bit of it offensive. But I also acknowledge that this is a free country and everyone is entitled to express their views. In fact, I remember when TV networks believed in the First Amendment. It is a messed up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended "

http://gov.louisiana.gov/index.cfm?m...articleID=4374

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 07:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1293573)
Let's face the facts. The media and companies aren't afraid to upset Christians because they know Christians will do nothing about it. Oh sure, we'll complain on Facebook or internet forums, but we won't rise as one against them and make them pay for it by refusing to shop at stores, purchase goods, or watch networks which support this.

As much as I would love to see them do so, the Robertson's will not boycott the show. The show will complete its season, and then A&E will let it drop from programming. A&E knows it just has to weather a couple days of Facebook posts, then everything will be fine and Christians will still watch the show.

A&E List of Advertisers: Hit the Network Where it Hurts-The Wallet!

Sensodyne
T-Mobile
Samsung
Motorola
Walgreens
IHOP
Macy’s
Nokia
Microsoft
Verizon
Bass Pro Shops

http://www.libertyjuice.com/2013/12/...ts-the-wallet/

n david 12-19-2013 08:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1293576)
A&E List of Advertisers: Hit the Network Where it Hurts-The Wallet!

Sensodyne
T-Mobile
Samsung
Motorola
Walgreens
IHOP
Macy’s
Nokia
Microsoft
Verizon
Bass Pro Shops

http://www.libertyjuice.com/2013/12/...ts-the-wallet/

I don't use Sensodyne, I have Sprint - not Verizon or T-Mobile - (unfortunately), I don't eat at IHOP, don't shop at Macy's, don't have a pc at home, I hate Motorola anyway, don't really shop at Bass Pro Shops...but I do buy from Walgreen's there's one conveniently located right across from where we live.

I doubt people will cancel their cell phone plans to protest A&E.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1293578)
I don't use Sensodyne, I have Sprint - not Verizon or T-Mobile - (unfortunately), I don't eat at IHOP, don't shop at Macy's, don't have a pc at home, I hate Motorola anyway, don't really shop at Bass Pro Shops...but I do buy from Walgreen's there's one conveniently located right across from where we live.

I doubt people will cancel their cell phone plans to protest A&E.

Right, I won't be cancelling my T-mobile and we do shop at Bass Pro Shop. As a matter of fact, our son bought his dad some Duck Dynasty boxers as a gag gift for Christmas. LOL! He called and said, "I'm at Bass Pro shop. What can I get dad?" My response, "DO NOT buy him a shirt with the Duck boys on it." :heeheehee

I shop at Macy's, but don't have to. Never eat at IHOP. Sensodyne doesn't work anyway, so that's out. I can stop going to Walgreens, which I rarely do anyway. Microsoft, can't do anything about that. Love my Dell with Microsoft.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 08:08 AM

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Here is where we are today.
Quote:

‘Duck Dynasty’ vs. ‘Pajama Boy’: Two Americas?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/18/du...-two-americas/
"You’re either in the Duck Dynasty camp or the 'Pajama Boy' camp. Somebody WILL lose." Merry Christmas!"

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 08:25 AM

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From Herman Cain.

Quote:

Politics: Phil Robertson can't cite Scripture, but these prancing dudes are brought to you by ObamaCare!

The site itself is all about directing the homosexual population into signing up for ObamaCare, and sure, that's their right. If they want to make a video of dudes in their skivvies checking each other out while some girl butchers a song that was butchery to begin with, the First Amendment covers them too, just like it covers Phil Robertson.

http://www.caintv.com/phil-robertson-cant-cite-scrip

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 08:38 AM

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:toofunny

Twitter:

"Just saw Phil's add on Craigslist: Married White Male seeking tolerant network for hit tv series."

n david 12-19-2013 08:57 AM

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BTW, the new DD season begins Jan 28th. Filming is already done and over with, so this move by A&E is even more stupid as it does absolutely nothing to keep Phil off the air this up-coming season. Of course they could go and post-edit Phil out of scenes already filmed, but that would be very hard to do before Jan 28th, not to mention it would leave gaps in the shows.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 09:14 AM

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CNN Falsely Claims 'Duck Dynasty's' Roberts Compared Bestiality to Homosexuality

And here is something else Robertson said that is getting almost no media play:

Quote:

Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...iality-to-gays

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 10:14 AM

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Dennis Miller comments on Phil's suspension, Miller style. :thumbsup

Quote:

It's time for all of us to sit down and have a talk about free spe

Dennis Miller Show (@DennisDMZ) December 19, 2013
And on a side note from Miller:

"While Obamacare is definitely the worst roll out of the year, Romo to his left is a close second."

True that! :thumbsup :heeheehee

*AQuietPlace* 12-19-2013 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1293578)
I don't use Sensodyne, I have Sprint - not Verizon or T-Mobile - (unfortunately), I don't eat at IHOP, don't shop at Macy's, don't have a pc at home, I hate Motorola anyway, don't really shop at Bass Pro Shops...but I do buy from Walgreen's there's one conveniently located right across from where we live.

I doubt people will cancel their cell phone plans to protest A&E.



You don't have to boycott anyone to make your thoughts known. You can simply call the advertisers and let them know what you think. Enough phone calls WILL affect what they do, because they don't want bad p.r.

n david 12-19-2013 12:02 PM

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A&E picked the wrong side to back on this...

Even Brandon Ambrosino, a gay writer for Time Magazine wrote "The ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fiasco Says More About Our Bigotry Than Phil’s. Why is our go-to political strategy for beating our opponents to silence them? Why do we dismiss, rather than engage them?"

"It’s quite possible to throw one’s political support behind traditional, heterosexual marriage, and yet not be bigoted."

"GK Chesterton said that bigotry is “an incapacity to conceive seriously the alternative to a proposition.” If he is right—and he usually is—then I wonder if the Duck Dynasty fiasco says more about our bigotry than Phil’s."

BAM! Thank you, Mr. Ambrosino!

Source Link

MawMaw 12-19-2013 12:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1293576)
A&E List of Advertisers: Hit the Network Where it Hurts-The Wallet!

Sensodyne
T-Mobile
Samsung
Motorola
Walgreens
IHOP
Macy’s
Nokia
Microsoft
Verizon
Bass Pro Shops

http://www.libertyjuice.com/2013/12/...ts-the-wallet/

Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 1293597)
You don't have to boycott anyone to make your thoughts known. You can simply call the advertisers and let them know what you think. Enough phone calls WILL affect what they do, because they don't want bad p.r.

Yep, calls and emails do seem to make a difference to advertisers!
Ask AFA and One Million Moms! :nod

www.afa.net
www.onemillionmoms.com

Tina 12-19-2013 12:14 PM

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Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty? I'm just frustrated because dozens of folks on my facebook newsfeed have Photos of this guy in the place of their regular photos and now I can't just look at the photo to know who said what.. I have to read the names on every post. LOL

n david 12-19-2013 12:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 1293610)
Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty?

Say it ain't so!!! :lol

MawMaw 12-19-2013 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 1293610)
Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty? I'm just frustrated because dozens of folks on my facebook newsfeed have Photos of this guy in the place of their regular photos and now I can't just look at the photo to know who said what.. I have to read the names on every post. LOL

I could say that a while back, but, I got curious
and watched a snippett of an episode on youtube. :heeheehee

Not a show I would watch all the time, and I'm not sure which one is which, but, I'm glad Phil did stand up for a law of the Bible. :thumbsup

TGBTG 12-19-2013 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 1293610)
Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty? I'm just frustrated because dozens of folks on my facebook newsfeed have Photos of this guy in the place of their regular photos and now I can't just look at the photo to know who said what.. I have to read the names on every post. LOL

Ditto

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacey (Post 1293609)
Yep, calls and emails do seem to make a difference to advertisers!
Ask AFA and One Million Moms! :nod

www.afa.net
www.onemillionmoms.com

They all start out with requests for calling and emails, but in the back pocket lies the boycott, ready to be whipped out.

Quote:

. In a move that can only be explained as being "fashionably late" (after over a week’s worth of uncharacteristic but welcome silence), the Moms are back with their second boycott in one month against the Walt Disney Company.
http://www.edgeonthenet.com/entertai...disney_channel
Quote:

One Million Moms Says ‘So Long Amazon’
In a move rivaling the American Family Association’s proposed Google boycott, One Million Moms is encouraging followers to say, “So long Amazon.”
http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/one-mi...so-long-amazon
Quote:

The anti-LGBT American Family Association is considering a boycott of all Google products in response to the company’s recently launched Legalize Love campaign.
http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/americ...google-boycott

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 1293610)
Am I the ONLY person who has never watched an episode of Duck Dynasty? I'm just frustrated because dozens of folks on my facebook newsfeed have Photos of this guy in the place of their regular photos and now I can't just look at the photo to know who said what.. I have to read the names on every post. LOL

LOL! I have seen a few. I don't have the patience to sit through a whole episode. My husband likes them like he does Tim Allen in Last Man Standing - they don't act like sissies. Something hard to find in entertainment these days. And you don't have the women taking the lead like most of the cop, detective shows, etc.

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 12:44 PM

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I really like this article. This, IMO, is more important that acting militant about it.

“Duck Dynasty”: Let’s Deal in Real Reality

This doesn’t mean we should bury our heads in the sand about genuine free speech and free exercise violations in our theoretically free nation; it just means we ought to be more circumspect than reactionary, more wise than whiny, more joyful than outraged. As “reality” just got the ironic quote-marks taken off of it, maybe this cultural shifting will serve towards a sifting of the “real” Christians from the real ones, the cultural from the Spiritual. Evangelicals need to get real.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/...-real-reality/

Timmy 12-19-2013 12:47 PM

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I know you are all waiting for the Voice of Reason, so here I am. :heeheehee

1. This is not a First Amendment issue. No private entity is obligated to provide a platform for free speech.

2. It was probably unwise (though perfectly legal) of Discovery to boot the guy, but this remains to be seen. My prediction: they will let him back on the show.

3. You don't want to know what my opinion of his opinion is. :heeheehee (Though, of course, you probably do know. :lol) And, of course, AFF is not obligated to provide a platform for my opinion. ;)

Timmy 12-19-2013 12:47 PM

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BTW, you're welcome: :lol

Pressing-On 12-19-2013 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1293620)
I know you are all waiting for the Voice of Reason, so here I am. :heeheehee

1. This is not a First Amendment issue. No private entity is obligated to provide a platform for free speech.

2. It was probably unwise (though perfectly legal) of Discovery to boot the guy, but this remains to be seen. My prediction: they will let him back on the show.

3. You don't want to know what my opinion of his opinion is. :heeheehee (Though, of course, you probably do know. :lol) And, of course, AFF is not obligated to provide a platform for my opinion. ;)

It might not technically be a 1st Amendment issue, but it certainly is a violation of anti-discriminatory laws.

I'd have to read their contract, but I do know that Phil has spoken up about the producers not wanting them to use Jesus' name so as not to offend. They have left that in, so there isn't any discrimination on the producers part to continue allowing it. His quoting scripture is anti-discriminatory and follows closely, in the opposite direction, the Cake Baker who was forced to provide cakes for gay weddings.

We will have to see how all of this plays out. If the Duck Boys handle this right, it could be a huge game changer.

MissBrattified 12-19-2013 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1293589)
CNN Falsely Claims 'Duck Dynasty's' Roberts Compared Bestiality to Homosexuality

And here is something else Robertson said that is getting almost no media play:



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journal...iality-to-gays

I think Phil sort of did compare homosexuality to promiscuity and bestiality, but I don't really care that he did. He said, "Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong… Sin becomes fine. Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

I also like what he said about sin not being logical, but the quote is too explicit to post here. :D (found at the same link you posted)

n david 12-19-2013 01:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1293620)
I know you are all waiting for the Voice of Reason, so here I am. :heeheehee

1. This is not a First Amendment issue. No private entity is obligated to provide a platform for free speech.

2. It was probably unwise (though perfectly legal) of Discovery to boot the guy, but this remains to be seen. My prediction: they will let him back on the show.

3. You don't want to know what my opinion of his opinion is. :heeheehee (Though, of course, you probably do know. :lol) And, of course, AFF is not obligated to provide a platform for my opinion. ;)

1) Every employer is required to abide by the Civil Rights Act, which includes safeguards against religious discrimination. Robertson was suspended or fired for quoting a Bible verse and giving his personal, religious views. That is illegal.

2) It wasn't Discovery, it was A&E, but who cares; you're right, they "acted stupidly" (to coin an obama phrase) and had a knee-jerk reaction instead of making a calculated decision.

3) It may still be a free country with free speech, unless said speech is personal or religious beliefs against a certain, very small, but very vocal percentage of America.


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